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An appeal from The Sandmonkey:

...the Azhar Scholars Front- Which is a salafist group of Azhar Scholars who don’t actually run things in AlAzhar, but do have resonance and followers in the population, no thanks to the cache the Azhar name brings- have just asked the Egyptian population to not only attack the church through courts and lawsuits, but that it’s the national duty of good muslims to participate in a national economic boycott of all Christians in Egypt, until the church stops being “Uppity”. They want Muslims to boycott all Christian businesses and schools, until the wayward Christians return to their senses and conv..ehh..stop – and I quote- “intending to prove the existence of their religion in the country, at the expense of truth, the state, and its citizens“, cause Christinaity in Egypt is an illusion, except when there are Christian businesses to boycott. It all makes sense if you don’t pay attention.

Now, I don’t have to list the reasons why this is messed up, but I will do that anyway: There is no doubt that there was always sectarian tension in Egypt, but it’s been always hush hush, with everyone insisting that all is well, and that the national fabric is made of bulletproof Kevlar, and other such poppycock. No more. This is the game changer. With a religious authority declaring it’s the duty of muslims to effectively economically boycott all Christian businesses until they carry out their affairs to our liking, and threatening to escalate to a social boycott as well if the Christians don’t kowtow to them, Egypt has officially came out of the sectarian closet. Hell, even the Lebanese, who are world renowned for their sectarianism, never went as far as this in recent memory. This is new, and this is dangerous, because some people will take it to heart, and will start peer pressuring their muslim friends to join, who will in turn peer-pressure their muslim friends, and it can all snowball into a secterian avalanche that could take over the nation. And make no mistake, if it does, there will be violence. This will easily go bad very quickly, which is why I am writing this post.

The government will ignore this story and issue a media blackout, because they will believe that talking about will publicize the call of the ASF and then you might have people who will take it to heart. The problem is, people will take it to heart anyway, because if we learned anything from the Danish Cartoons crisis, if people want information that allows them to go nuts, they will find a way to disseminate it and let it take over their small tiny brains. For example, A friend of mine published the link to attach the statement on his facebook profile, and a friend of his asked him what he should do, since he wants to follow the edict and boycott the Christians, but doesn’t know what to do about the fact that his Christian neighbor happened to donate blood to him at a recent surgery. This is the same population that back in the cartoon days refused insulin for their diabetes because it was made in Denmark and “what the hell will I tell the prophet if I die after taking this?”, so the potential for extremely dangerous stupidity here is nothing less than formidable.

If there is a silver lining to all of this, it forces our hand to confront this now, and show once and for all who is hateful towards egypt’s Coptic minority and who isn’t. Our only hope as a nation is not to ignore this, but to let the world know that this is happening, and forcing the Egyptian society to face its own sectarianism and bigotry and the Egyptian government to nip it in the butt. Condemnation to their call has to be so loud and clear that no such call will be made ever again, and IT HAS TO COME FROM MUSLIMS. And if you are one and you are thinking : ” we shouldn’t do anything but just ignore those idiots”, well, my friend -

 
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The egyptians are famous for their bigotry thanks to soviet aligned past. There is no end to it against x group of people.
 
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They want Muslims to boycott all Christian businesses and schools, until the wayward Christians return to their senses and conv..ehh..

... and threatening to escalate to a social boycott as well if the Christians don't kowtow to them...

What kind of "kowtow" are they looking for?
 
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What kind of "kowtow" are they looking for?
The current issue is that these "scholars" want the Coptic Church to cease protecting a Christian woman who left her Christian husband so they can compel her to convert to Islam against her will. Yet the complaint against the Coptic Church is larger, even existential, so that even if the Church stopped protecting her it wouldn't halt the controversy:
If the church insists and stands by its current position towards the state and religion, then we warn them that our next step will be civic boycotting to ALL christians in egypt, pushing them to the narrowest of paths, preventing them cohabitation.
So ultimately these evil men threaten to break up ALL Christian marriages and prevent the births of any more Christians in Egypt. This is the stuff genocides spring from.
 
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what's with this bleeding heart liberal???

by the way, i've been to Egypt. The copts are fairly well integrated in the society despite some very isolated incidents in a Church or some figures were harassed


the richest businessman in Egypt (CEO of Orascom) Naguib Sueres is a Copt and is well connected in political circles. That alone is telling enough.
 
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what's with this bleeding heart liberal???

by the way, i've been to Egypt. The copts are fairly well integrated in the society despite some very isolated incidents in a Church or some figures were harassed


the richest businessman in Egypt (CEO of Orascom) Naguib Sueres is a Copt and is well connected in political circles. That alone is telling enough.
So you won't condemn the statements and goals of the Azhar Scholars Front?
 
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I think this anger and irrational actions would be somewhat linked to the long list of provocations on the side that *cough* Sulaymaan *cough* is trying to defend so dearly.

Anyway, :toast_sign:
 
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So you won't condemn the statements and goals of the Azhar Scholars Front?

Suleyman Saab!

I will if further investigation proves and can verify the validity of the hastily written ''sandmonkey'' report
 
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I will if further investigation proves and can verify the validity of the hastily written ''sandmonkey'' report
If Sandmonkey isn't enough for you then I'll point out that I won't be doing the research myself since most of the references are in Arabic, which I don't understand. So if you really care, you're going to have to find someone who does.
 
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no problem Suleyman Saab, i know a decent amount of modern standard Arabic (foos'ha)


enlighten me...because I could swear that BBC, Haaretz, CNN and the likes would have been having a field day with this man's (alleged) statement
 
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Serious who give real crap to this entity called al azhar?? Last time they were issuing ridiculous fatwas like co-worker women should breat feed their male counter parts!

These days looks like anyone can paste an islamic banner and gain sympathy towards from masses.

I hate:
- these political moulvis
- people who deprive women of every thing under banner of islam
- people who want to moral police others
- people who want to take everyone back to stone age in the name of islam
- countries which have not evolved beyond the pagan era under so called banner of islamism
 
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that's why state-appointed Ulema is the answer to the issue; like what Turkey does....

they are also versed in ''secular'' subjects as well

it's easy to grow a beard, finger a taasby and call yourself a scholar......what isnt easy is having the credentials to bring about positive difference.


do keep in mind that Egypt has been under Emergency Rule since 1981. Muslim Brotherhood is banned (for good as well as bad reasons).....
 
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assalam alaikum,
this response BY THE SCHOLAR is may be due the rivert muslims sister who is kept under the church. the sisters's name is kamilia i guess and bcoz the the egyption christians who r outside of eypt called the burning of quran

TARIQ
 
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assalam alaikum,
at this moment a live programmed is aired by aljazeera tv (arabic) which talks about the relation of muslims and christians
TARIQ
 
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