Australia’s Submarines Make Waves in Asia Long Before They Go to Sea

[Oldman1]

So, what practical impact will Australia's submarines have on China? After the war between China and the US, I estimate the US had at least 200 submarines.

You be surprise, they can hunt and kill other subs, gather intel where the Chinese fleets and ships are, cause havoc on shipping, launch missiles at naval bases and shipyards, insert special forces etc.

 

[Song Hong]

Not so easy to kill an aircraft carrier. 99.9% the sub will get sink.

You be surprise, they can hunt and kill other subs, gather intel where the Chinese fleets and ships are, cause havoc on shipping, launch missiles at naval bases and shipyards, insert special forces etc.

 

[redtom]

You be surprise, they can hunt and kill other subs, gather intel where the Chinese fleets and ships are, cause havoc on shipping, launch missiles at naval bases and shipyards, insert special forces etc.

You mean Australia will go to war undeclared, like Pearl Harbor. But what's the difference between them and American submarines? In wartime, you don't need to identify the nationality of a submarine, you just sink it. There will be no difference between Australian and American submarines.

 

[Oldman1]

You mean Australia will go to war undeclared, like Pearl Harbor. But what's the difference between them and American submarines? In wartime, you don't need to identify the nationality of a submarine, you just sink it. There will be no difference between Australian and American submarines.

They will go to war when China decides to go to war.

Not so easy to kill an aircraft carrier. 99.9% the sub will get sink.

Submarines are the most dangerous enemies to carriers.

 

[aziqbal]

You seem to forget that the US has over 50 larger and more advanced nuclear submarines. Are Australians so much better than Americans? They can do what the US can't with 12 small submarines. The most irrational part of the whole China scare story is that everyone forgot about the US Navy's 50 submarines. It seems like in the blink of an eye that the US Navy went from being the most powerful navy in the world to a crying girl cruise ship.

your missing the point

why did UK build 2 aircraft carriers USN has 11 so what ?

Why does JMSDF have 5 flat decks when USN 7th fleet is based there ?

why does South Korea need 4 flat decks ?

RAN has 2 x ARG meanwhile USN has 10 x ARG

point is when added together all of this means more critical mass for allied forces

and together they can bring down huge numbers of forces combined

UK brings 2 Carriers, JMSDF easily 3 x ARG, South Korea 2 x ARG, RAN 2 x ARG

thats 2 CSG + 7 x ARG if not more

now thats more assets than USN has in the Entire Pacific

now add in USN

 

[Foinikas]

It’s not about Australia being in the same league, it’s about Australia acting as a force multiplier for the US military.


Look at what their purchasing and developing with the US:

Nuclear attack subs
Tomahawk cruise missiles
JASSM-ER stealth cruise missiles
LRASM stealth antiship missiles
Precision Strike Missiles
Developing hypersonic missiles with US
Basing for US military

Exactly that.

 

[Song Hong]

They will go to war when China decides to go to war.

Submarines are the most dangerous enemies to carriers.

You do not understand naval warfare and sensors

 

[Kai Liu]

your missing the point

why did UK build 2 aircraft carriers USN has 11 so what ?

Why does JMSDF have 5 flat decks when USN 7th fleet is based there ?

why does South Korea need 4 flat decks ?

RAN has 2 x ARG meanwhile USN has 10 x ARG

point is when added together all of this means more critical mass for allied forces

and together they can bring down huge numbers of forces combined

UK brings 2 Carriers, JMSDF easily 3 x ARG, South Korea 2 x ARG, RAN 2 x ARG

thats 2 CSG + 7 x ARG if not more

now thats more assets than USN has in the Entire Pacific

now add in USN

Sure, these are all for protecting your 'beloved' Muslim brothers...Cheerleader like you should run naked by now...

 

[redtom]

They will go to war when China decides to go to war.

Submarines are the most dangerous enemies to carriers.

So, as long as China doesn't invade Australia, Australia's submarines are a piece of junk. That's my point, Australian submarines are a piece of junk.

 

[redtom]

your missing the point

why did UK build 2 aircraft carriers USN has 11 so what ?

Why does JMSDF have 5 flat decks when USN 7th fleet is based there ?

why does South Korea need 4 flat decks ?

RAN has 2 x ARG meanwhile USN has 10 x ARG

point is when added together all of this means more critical mass for allied forces

and together they can bring down huge numbers of forces combined

UK brings 2 Carriers, JMSDF easily 3 x ARG, South Korea 2 x ARG, RAN 2 x ARG

thats 2 CSG + 7 x ARG if not more

now thats more assets than USN has in the Entire Pacific

now add in USN

Because the US doesn't fight for its Allies, they all need to protect themselves. UK needed to take on Argentina and France. South Korea needs to counter North Korea and Japan. Japan needs to confront both North and South Korea. Australia's number one enemy is Indonesia and Indonesia needs to fight both Australia and Malaysia. Singapore needs to guard against Malaysia and Malaysia needs to guard against Singapore and Indonesia. All countries in Indochina need to guard against Vietnam. This is not a world where the US and its friends are fighting evil regimes, but a world where everyone wants to use everyone else to do their own thing.

So, when the US and Australia announced the submarine program. China is worried about nuclear proliferation. Indonesia and Malaysia fear an arms race. If Australia's submarines are meant to threaten China as advertised, China should be worried about an arms race. Indonesia and Malaysia have nothing to worry about as they will both be reassured by the great protection of the US.

We understand that the Americans only extract money from their Allies in the name of standing up to China. But we think that the Americans have gone too far in using nuclear submarines to swindle money and that it will cause the idea of nuclear non-proliferation to be shaken in the world.

 

[Song Hong]

Many people think one small sub hiding under the sea, and then it will be a game of shooting duck against this big aircraft carrier or destroyer. Go dream. Sub will die first against carrier group.

 

[Kai Liu]

I will consider all my 'negative ratings' given by a bunch of coward losers as my medals...LMAO...
Again, this bunch of coward losers makes the so-called PDF 'think tank' a big big joke ...Lol...

 

[Oldman1]

So, as long as China doesn't invade Australia, Australia's submarines are a piece of junk. That's my point, Australian submarines are a piece of junk.

You reaching.

You do not understand naval warfare and sensors

You don't understand naval warfare.

 

[Viet]

So, what practical impact will Australia's submarines have on China? After the war between China and the US, I estimate the US had at least 200 submarines.

What impact have pig farmings in Vietnam when China has the biggest pig farms in the world? Think about it you will be shocked: the world has more than two countries US and CN.

 

[Bengal71]

Wonder what China's response will be?

The westerners will have a massive build up but there will be no war with China, I am pretty sure about that.