Australian soldiers sentenced by France for blasphemy

[Hamartia Antidote]

Three Australian soldiers were sentenced to death by a French court for blasphemy and dishonoring the baguette,which is a sacred thing in France. The population is asking for their heads !

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If they put ketchup on their steak they could have gotten a burning at the stake..

 

[Vergennes]

If they put ketchup on their steak they could have gotten a burning at the stake..

Told you once a f*cker did this. He was sentenced to death and his family members banned from ever coming back in the country otherwise they would also face the death penatly. Their home was burned and it's now forbidden to ever build something on it.

I mean there are things you can joke about,but food and the 'etiquette' are holier than anything else in France.

Ketchup on a steak ? Quelle abomination ! Anyone should be burned at the stake just for even thinking about it.

 

[PakSword]

Denying the holocaust is not freedom of speech, it's hate speech, pure and simple!

Holocaust never happened.. it is a blatant lie.. whoever says that holocaust is a historical fact is committing a blasphemy in my eyes..

 

[Wolfhunter]

Holocaust never happened.. it is a blatant lie.. whoever says that holocaust is a historical fact is committing a blasphemy in my eyes..

Well the entire civilized world disagrees with you and your warped view.

 

[PakSword]

Well the entire civilized world disagrees with you and your warped view.

Saying that something hasn't happened is a warped view? And I become uncivilized? Wow..

Anyway, this is just a fake belief.. no holocaust.. nopes.. nishta.. nothing happened..

 

[Wolfhunter]

Saying that something hasn't happened is a warped view? And I become uncivilized? Wow..

Anyway, this is just a fake belief.. no holocaust.. nopes.. nishta.. nothing happened..

BTW what does this have to do with the thread? @The Eagle @Horus
Another Senior member derailing a perfectly amusing thread! Again!

Told you once a f*cker did this. He was sentenced to death and his family members banned from ever coming back in the country otherwise they would also face the death penatly. Their home was burned and it's not forbidden to ever build something on it.

I mean there are things you can joke about,but food and the 'etiquette' are holier than anything else in France.

Ketchup on a steak ? Quelle abomination ! Anyone should be burned at the stake just for even thinking about it.

How do you like your steak?

 

[PakSword]

BTW what does this have to do with the thread? @The Eagle @Horus
Another Senior member derailing a perfectly amusing thread! Again!

You should have just respected my viewpoint and beliefs rather than calling them as uncivilized.. and then running to mods for help.. and moved on..

 

[Wolfhunter]

You should have just respected my viewpoint and beliefs rather than calling them as uncivilized.. and then running to mods for help.. and moved on..

I don't respect someone who willfully ignores the wholesale slaughter of millions of innocent men, women and children. Have you ever visited a Holocaust memorial or spoken to a Survivor? Perhaps if you did, you would change your viewpoint.

 

[PakSword]

I don't respect someone who willfully ignores the wholesale slaughter of millions of innocent men, women and children. Have you ever visited a Holocaust memorial or spoken to a Survivor? Perhaps if you did, you would change your viewpoint.

So anyone who denies what you call fact and considers it a distorted history, he is committing blasphemy? Why? Because someone is hurt listening to this speech? You consider is a hate speech?

What about hurting 100s of millions of peoples' emotions which are hurt when you guys disrespect their prophet (PBUH)? This is freedom of speech and not a hate speech?

I don't respect someone who willfully ignores the wholesale slaughter of millions of innocent men

And I don't care about your respect..

 

[Wolfhunter]

What about hurting 100s of millions of peoples' emotions which are hurt when you guys disrespect their prophet (PBUH)? This is freedom of speech and not a hate speech?

There is a difference between Freedom to offend and hate speech, the issue you are referring to relates to France and I am English. Two different countries, in the U.K we would not accept someone hurting the sentiments of anyone, including Muslims.

But in France satire is very different, it has always been tongue in cheek and critical of everyone, the pope, the president, Jesus Christ and yes even Mohammed (PBUH) so unless you are aware of that culture and tradition you will not understand the background behind such behavior.

Also it is unacceptable that the Muslim world decides it can try and bully people into shutting up when people say something that Muslims don't like. Instead of trying to bully people, try and engage with them in dialogue but that is one thing Muslims are not great at.

How can you compare the wholesale massacre and genocide of millions of jews, gentile and poles to a caricature? Come on, be reasonable!

 

[PakSword]

Instead of trying to bully people, try and engage with them in dialogue but that is one thing Muslims are not great at.

Post reported because of the above part..

How can you compare the wholesale massacre and genocide of millions of jews, gentile and poles to a caricature? Come on, be reasonable!

Because for me, derogatory caricature of Muhammad (PBUH) is unacceptable.. it hurts me as well as 100s of millions of Muslims..

If general population of Muslims condemns making fun of others' religions and beliefs, and it is also a command from the Prophet (PBUH), then we expect the same from you guys.. Something that is freedom of speech or fun for you is not freedom of speech or fun for 100s of millions of humans living in another part of the same world.

Similarly, you guys should also accept that Israeli forces are killing innocent Palestinian children.. and condemn it..

You can't just make your own rules and then forcefully apply them on everyone.. But unfortunately, it is beyond your comprehension level..

 

[Wolfhunter]

Post reported because of the above part..

Can we get back to the topic now. Please leave us to have our fun here in this thread.

Because for me, derogatory caricature of Muhammad (PBUH) is unacceptable.. it hurts me as well as 100s of millions of Muslims..

If general population of Muslims condemns making fun of others' religions and beliefs, and it is also a command from the Prophet (PBUH), then we expect the same from you guys.. Something that is freedom of speech or fun for you is not freedom of speech or fun for 100s of millions of humans living in another part of the same world.

Similarly, you guys should also accept that Israeli forces are killing innocent Palestinian children.. and condemn it..

You can't just make your own rules and then forcefully apply them on everyone.. But unfortunately, it is beyond your comprehension level..

1. So how many Muslims are there in the world, vs how many Human beings?
2. Muslims do regularly mock western culture, dress, habits and behaviors/customs. I have seen countless threads here mocking Indians and their beliefs, I don't see any Muslim standing up to condemn such posts, lead by example!
3. You cannot dictate what people can and cannot do! Try to understand that and you will live a happy life.
4. Similarly, you guys should accept Israel as a nation and her right to exist and defend herself from attack!
5. We have not FORCED our rules on anyone, ECHR is within the realm of EUROPE, the magazine was in France which is in EUROPE, not Saudi, not Islamabad, no Kabul!

Thank you.

 

[PakSword]

1. So how many Muslims are there in the world, vs how many Human beings?

You know about it..

2. Muslims do regularly mock western culture, dress, habits and behaviors/customs. I have seen countless threads here mocking Indians and their beliefs, I don't see any Muslim standing up to condemn such posts, lead by example!

They are wrong.. It is not part of any Muslim country's constitution or law as well, unlike many European countries officially allow mocking Prophet (PBUH) calling it freedom of speech..

3. You cannot dictate what people can and cannot do! Try to understand that and you will live a happy life.

Similarly, you can't dictate someone from believing anything.. if someone doesn't believe on holocaust, your rules ask you to keep quite and move on..

 

[Wolfhunter]

You know about it..


They are wrong.. It is not part of any Muslim country's constitution or law as well, unlike many European countries officially allow mocking Prophet (PBUH) calling it freedom of speech..

But start by leading by Example. Kinda like Saladin and his exemplar. The problem is that Muslims regularly pull out the victim card but fail to see that they are meeting out the same treatment to minorities and those weaker then them in their own homelands.

 

[PakSword]

4. Similarly, you guys should accept Israel as a nation and her right to exist and defend herself from attack!

You guys should condemn Israel for forcing Palestinians out of their homes..