Australian soldiers sentenced by France for blasphemy

[Vergennes]

Three Australian soldiers were sentenced to death by a French court for blasphemy and dishonoring the baguette,which is a sacred thing in France. The population is asking for their heads !

 

[Wolfhunter]

hahaha we need more posts like this one! . BTW that is an impressive full sleeve the guy on the right has!

 

[Lahorie]

Off-topic but I can't resists to state that west call Muslims "fundamentalist" if Muslims ask the same for blasphemy of Holy Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace be upon him). Irony is epic!!!

 

[ProphetX]

Off-topic but I can't resists to state that west call Muslims "fundamentalist" if Muslims ask the same for blasphemy of Holy Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace be upon him). Irony is epic!!!

You my friend need an education in sarcastic humor.
The only irony here is your existence, defies evolution.

 

[Wolfhunter]

Off-topic but I can't resists to state that west call Muslims "fundamentalist" if Muslims ask the same for blasphemy of Holy Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace be upon him). Irony is epic!!!

 

[Chhatrapati]

Three Australian soldiers were sentenced to death by a French court for blasphemy and dishonoring the baguette,which is a sacred thing in France. The population is asking for their heads !

I can't resists to state that west call Muslims "fundamentalist" if Muslims ask the same for blasphemy of Holy Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace be upon him). Irony is epic!!!

 

[ziaulislam]

Three Australian soldiers were sentenced to death by a French court for blasphemy and dishonoring the baguette,which is a sacred thing in France. The population is asking for their heads !

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'Nazi Grandma' loses appeal case, sentenced to 14 months in prison for Holocaust denial
Ursula Haverbeck, often dubbed the "Nazi Grandma" in the German press, has been sentenced to 14 months in prison for incitement of racial hatred. Haverbeck has been handed several jail terms but has yet to be jailed.
http://www.newsweek.com/holocaust-denial-germany-686591

its called freedom of speech lol

 

[Wolfhunter]

'Nazi Grandma' loses appeal case, sentenced to 14 months in prison for Holocaust denial
Ursula Haverbeck, often dubbed the "Nazi Grandma" in the German press, has been sentenced to 14 months in prison for incitement of racial hatred. Haverbeck has been handed several jail terms but has yet to be jailed.
http://www.newsweek.com/holocaust-denial-germany-686591

its called freedom of speech lol

Denying the holocaust is not freedom of speech, it's hate speech, pure and simple!

 

[ziaulislam]

Denying the holocaust is not freedom of speech, it's hate speech, pure and simple!

making fun and mocking other peoples is that hate speech or not..?
i dont see how discussing or denying a historical event is hate speech?
someone denying that British killed 10,000s of Indians is hate speech as well than?
Israel denies human right abuse(confirmed by UN) and serbs denied slaughter in Bosnia does that make it hate speech?
french denies killing 10,000 of people in algeria? does that make it hate speech?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/05/50-years-algeria-independence-france-denial

i can write a book on historical events and their denier both from modern world and old world but no body ever called that hate speech

 

[Wolfhunter]

making fun and mocking other peoples is that hate speech or not..?
i dont see how discussing or denying a historical event is hate speech?
someone denying that British killed 10,000s of Indians is hate speech as well than?
Israel denies human right abuse(confirmed by UN) and serbs denied slaughter in Bosnia does that make it hate speech?
french denies killing 10,000 of people in algeria? does that make it hate speech?

Please speak in context of the Human Rights Act 1998 which is what the grandmother has been tried against. Her rights under Article 10 and Article 5 are not greater than the combined human rights of jews and polish, french, gentile & allied prisoners who died during the holocaust and would be a in breach of Art 3 and Art 14.

 

[ziaulislam]

i guess the guardian is reliable source for denier! dont let me start how million of indians were sentenced to death in WW2 when their food was burned in fear of japs

Please speak in context of the Human Rights Act 1998 which is what the grandmother has been tried against. Her rights under Article 10 and Article 5 are not greater than the combined human rights of jews and polish, french, gentile & allied prisoners who died during the holocaust and would be a in breach of Art 3 and Art 14.

lol, what about the Indians, Algerians and Palestinians are they considered humans or not..when it comes to that freedom of expression comes in otherwise its human rights lol

i know previously they were not (in south Africa and India) but thought recently they are

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bottom line its easier to sarcastic when you looks thing with your own prisim

 

[Dalit]

The standards are getting low.

 

[Wolfhunter]

i guess the guardian is reliable source for denier! dont let me start how million of indians were sentenced to death in WW2 when their food was burned in fear of japs


lol, what about the Indians, Algerians and Palestinians are they considered humans or not..when it comes to that freedom of expression comes in otherwise its human rights lol

i know previously they were not (in south Africa and India) but thought recently they are

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bottom line its easier to sarcastic when you looks thing with your own prisim

Please read my post with an educated oversight and understand what the ECHR defines as antisemitism. If you don't know, please google it.

 

[ziaulislam]

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french still carry trophies of freedom fighters in there museum..remember this happened after WW2..the reason why i mention they have no shame(i have great respect for British as they realized there fault in WW2aftermath)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/paris-to-return-algerian-skulls-taken-as-trophies-ld2jzsh92

Please read my post with an educated oversight and understand what the ECHR defines as antisemitism. If you don't know, please google it.

are you discussing morality or law with me? sorry if the discussion took the wrong turn, if you are discussing law than you are right she was punished rightly

but if you really want to discuss law in its purity were not many allied forces (india was part of allied forces) and jews executed through sham laws

Freedom for Algeria, the largest country in Africa and the Arab world, called time on a savage period of history in which some 1.5 million Algerians died, most in aerial bombing raids and ratissages – jargon used to describe the way in which army units "combed through" cities and towns slaughtering those they came across. Hundreds of thousands more were tortured as an entire nation was made to pay for resisting the might of an overseas "master" to whom it had been subjugated for 132 years.

Such thoughts were high in my mind on a recent trip to the Château de Vincennes, the castle just outside Paris where King Henry V of England died. What visitors are not guided to is the site of the nearby concentration camp for dissident Algerians. My father told me about compatriots the same age as him who were hanged from trees by police in the Vincennes woods. One of the lynchings made a small item in the then Manchester Guardian in early 1962 under the headline "Strange fruit in the trees", the headline taken from the lyrics most famously performed by Billie Holiday about African American hangings.

More incongruous still, the anecdote was in a column entitled "La vie Parisienne" – one which usually focused on artists honing their talent in the City of Light. So it was that the so-called ratonnades – another sinister term referring to violence specifically directed at north Africans – were relegated to quirky corners of the press. The killing by police of more 200 Algerians on a single day in Paris in October 1961 was similarly under-reported. Many were thrown into the Seine and left to drown. Some 10,000 more were rounded up inside the city sports stadiums and attacked; torture methods included victims being forced to drink bleach.


It did not stop there. Masses of disaffected Algerians had been imported to rebuild post-second-world-war France on low wages, and the influx continued after the Algerian war. Most were stuck in rundown out-of-town housing estates where, today, their children and grandchildren continue to face anti-Muslim discrimination on the margins of the republic.

There was barbarity on both sides, with Algeria's National Liberation Front (FLN) responding to savage repression in kind. But this week the authorities will focus on the "positive aspects" of colonialism – the sort schools are now obliged to teach by law. It imposes an "official" view of history, whitewashing the crimes France's erstwhile empire inflicted on Algerians.

France's National Army Museum in Paris is currently hosting a new exhibition about the "complicated" decades of French colonial rule. Despite some vague attempts at balance, "Algeria 1830-1962" is mostly a tribute to a Gallic army putting natives in their place. Though there are graphic pictures of FLN activists being tortured, the display as a whole fails to address what this dark period did for relations between the two countries.

Consequently, the exporting of Gallic "civilisation" will be used to disguise what really happened in such recent history. Just as France continues to infuriate the Arab world with its opportunistic policies in countries like Libya and Tunisia (supporting tyrants one week, and then turning on them the next), so it pretends that it was acting in the best interests of Algerians all along. Meanwhile, those once-colonised people who were young and ambitious on 5 July 1962 can, more than anyone else, see through this manipulation of history. The decade of the 1960s will always be as clear in their collective memory as it is for the millions who remember it for its fun and glamour.

 

[Wolfhunter]

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french still carry trophies of freedom fighters in there museum..remember this happened after WW2..the reason why i mention they have no shame(i have great respect for British as they realized there fault in WW2aftermath)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/paris-to-return-algerian-skulls-taken-as-trophies-ld2jzsh92


are you discussing morality or law with me? sorry if the discussion took the wrong turn, if you are discussing law than you are right she was punished rightly

but if you really want to discuss law in its purity were not many allied forces (india was part of allied forces) and jews executed through sham laws

Freedom for Algeria, the largest country in Africa and the Arab world, called time on a savage period of history in which some 1.5 million Algerians died, most in aerial bombing raids and ratissages – jargon used to describe the way in which army units "combed through" cities and towns slaughtering those they came across. Hundreds of thousands more were tortured as an entire nation was made to pay for resisting the might of an overseas "master" to whom it had been subjugated for 132 years.

Such thoughts were high in my mind on a recent trip to the Château de Vincennes, the castle just outside Paris where King Henry V of England died. What visitors are not guided to is the site of the nearby concentration camp for dissident Algerians. My father told me about compatriots the same age as him who were hanged from trees by police in the Vincennes woods. One of the lynchings made a small item in the then Manchester Guardian in early 1962 under the headline "Strange fruit in the trees", the headline taken from the lyrics most famously performed by Billie Holiday about African American hangings.

More incongruous still, the anecdote was in a column entitled "La vie Parisienne" – one which usually focused on artists honing their talent in the City of Light. So it was that the so-called ratonnades – another sinister term referring to violence specifically directed at north Africans – were relegated to quirky corners of the press. The killing by police of more 200 Algerians on a single day in Paris in October 1961 was similarly under-reported. Many were thrown into the Seine and left to drown. Some 10,000 more were rounded up inside the city sports stadiums and attacked; torture methods included victims being forced to drink bleach.


It did not stop there. Masses of disaffected Algerians had been imported to rebuild post-second-world-war France on low wages, and the influx continued after the Algerian war. Most were stuck in rundown out-of-town housing estates where, today, their children and grandchildren continue to face anti-Muslim discrimination on the margins of the republic.

There was barbarity on both sides, with Algeria's National Liberation Front (FLN) responding to savage repression in kind. But this week the authorities will focus on the "positive aspects" of colonialism – the sort schools are now obliged to teach by law. It imposes an "official" view of history, whitewashing the crimes France's erstwhile empire inflicted on Algerians.

France's National Army Museum in Paris is currently hosting a new exhibition about the "complicated" decades of French colonial rule. Despite some vague attempts at balance, "Algeria 1830-1962" is mostly a tribute to a Gallic army putting natives in their place. Though there are graphic pictures of FLN activists being tortured, the display as a whole fails to address what this dark period did for relations between the two countries.

Consequently, the exporting of Gallic "civilisation" will be used to disguise what really happened in such recent history. Just as France continues to infuriate the Arab world with its opportunistic policies in countries like Libya and Tunisia (supporting tyrants one week, and then turning on them the next), so it pretends that it was acting in the best interests of Algerians all along. Meanwhile, those once-colonised people who were young and ambitious on 5 July 1962 can, more than anyone else, see through this manipulation of history. The decade of the 1960s will always be as clear in their collective memory as it is for the millions who remember it for its fun and glamour.

Why are you discussing shams law, we are talking about antisemitism and ECHR and the HRA 1998. Not Shams laws...