Australia To Build Next-Gen Submarines Locally

[Zarvan]

Australian Defense Ministry is considering developing its next generation submarines locally instead of buying it from Japan as favoured by former prime minister Tony Abbott.

France, Germany and Japan are in the running to secure Australia's defence procurement programme worth Aus$50 billion (US$36 billion), to replace current diesel and electric-powered Collins Class submarines.

"I see that one of the bidders has said that they can build a significant part of a submarine here in Australia -- some 70 to 80 percent," Defence Minister Kevin Andrews told parliament Thursday, in comments seen by some local media as a major shift since Turnbull became prime minister.

One of the bidders, French naval contractor DCNS told a parliamentary inquiry into naval shipbuilding in July 2015 that the company would be able to carry out more than 70 percent of construction in Australia.

DCNS Australia chief executive Sean Costello welcomed the minister's comments and said the firm would be able to build all the submarines in Australia or in conjunction with a shipyard in France, AFP reported.

John White, the Australian head of Germany's TKMS, which is also trying to win the contract, said that the defence firm could also build all the submarines locally with some imported parts.

Australia To Build Next-Gen Submarines Locally

 

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Australian Defense Ministry is considering developing its next generation submarines locally instead of buying it from Japan as favoured by former prime minister Tony Abbott.

France, Germany and Japan are in the running to secure Australia's defence procurement programme worth Aus$50 billion (US$36 billion), to replace current diesel and electric-powered Collins Class submarines.

"I see that one of the bidders has said that they can build a significant part of a submarine here in Australia -- some 70 to 80 percent," Defence Minister Kevin Andrews told parliament Thursday, in comments seen by some local media as a major shift since Turnbull became prime minister.

One of the bidders, French naval contractor DCNS told a parliamentary inquiry into naval shipbuilding in July 2015 that the company would be able to carry out more than 70 percent of construction in Australia.

DCNS Australia chief executive Sean Costello welcomed the minister's comments and said the firm would be able to build all the submarines in Australia or in conjunction with a shipyard in France, AFP reported.

John White, the Australian head of Germany's TKMS, which is also trying to win the contract, said that the defence firm could also build all the submarines locally with some imported parts.

Australia To Build Next-Gen Submarines Locally

Which Type of Submarine? And Pics. I think Ausi wants to join the SMX program with draft of about 7000 submerged and also they need to build some smaller ones based on the same design with draft of about 1100 submerged.

 

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Australia's current Collin's class subs were built locally too when the replaced the imported Oberon class

 

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How many are they planning to build and in which category?

 

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Which Type of Submarine? And Pics. I think Ausi wants to join the SMX program with draft of about 7000 submerged and also they need to build some smaller ones based on the same design with draft of about 1100 submerged.

Probably something like the Soryu class made by Japan. Or similar boats made by other countries. But definitely not nuclear.

 

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Next Gen Scorpene perhaps..

 

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Probably something like the Soryu class made by Japan. Or similar boats made by other countries. But definitely not nuclear.

SMX Ocean . I am sure!!!

 

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SMX Ocean . I am sure!!!

Better yet, Seawolf class.

 

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Better yet, Seawolf class.

The it would be nuclear.

 

[21 Dec 2012]

The it would be nuclear.

All the better. They should get 6 x Seawolf Class and 6 x U 216/Soryu. Each submarine should come with Submarine launched SAM variants of SM-6 or Aster 30 and Tomahawk LACM/AShM.

 

[Penguin]

The government is expected to order between 6 and 12 new submarines to replace the navy’s six Collins-class boats. The new submarines will be potent, large and very long range diesel-electric boats of about 4000 tonnes, bigger than the 3300-tonne Collins. The government has invited Germany, France and Japan to provide detailed expressions of interest in building the new submarine fleet.

French company DCNS wants to provide Australia with a very large conventionally powered submarine based on the design of its 99m Barracuda nuclear-powered boat of 4,765 t surfaced
and 5,300 t submerged. This is called Shortfin Barracuda Block 1A, is more than 90m long and displaces more than 4000 tonnes on the surface: slightly smaller than the existing Barracuda-class submarine.
DCNS unveils Shortfin Barracuda | DCNS Group

TKMS is offering its new (HDW) Type 216 submarine, designed to meet Australian requirements that include long-range capability and endurance to suit the country’s vast ocean territory. All key components are proven in the earlier 212A and 214. It is 90m and displaces 4000 tons. Building upon a baseline platform of 4,000 ton displacement, HDW’s Type 216 is designed to be scaled up or down, thus better matching the requirements of navies seeking large, ocean going AIP-augmented diesel-electric powered submarines – as reflected in current Australian, Canadian and Indian acquisition programs. It forms the basis for Singapore's future Type 218SG, for example.
Singapore’s Type-218SG – Forerunner of a new Submarine Class? | Defense Update:

Japan is reportedly working on the “Goryu”, or “Australian Dragon”. The Japanese plans remain cloaked in secrecy and so far there has been no serious hint from Tokyo that it would be willing to build all or any of the boats in Australia, or more specifically in South Australia, where the Collins boats were built. Japan's latest domestic submarine is the Soryu cass. Built by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Kawasaki shipbuilding, it is 84m long, displaces 4200 tons submerged and is Japan's first AIP submarine, using Swedigh Kockum's Sterling engine technology. It has been billed as the best large conventional boat in the world.
Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Japan’s Kawasaki Heavy Industries and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, widely expected to win the contract, pledged to hand over data (although it is rumored that they are unwilling to hand over the most advanced and latest submarine technology). But when it comes to a domestic build in Australia, the Japanese remain cautious, doubting that Australia lacks the technology—in particular the materials manufacturing expertise—to contribute to the project successfully.

Australia’s Big Submarine Debate: The Case for an On-Shore Build | The National Interest Blog

The Collins boats are a Swedish design by Kockums. This company was taken over by TKMS but the submarine component has been taken back (literally) by Sweden and is now in the hands of SAAB. Swedish firm Saab already does considerable work on submarines with Japan, and the possibility that has emerged from left field of Japan teaming up with Sweden to build the submarines could open up the prospect of some of the construction being done in Australia. Saab als has a big footprint in Australia already. Australian engineers are taking part in the Swedish Navy’s new A26 submarine and Gotland Class mid-life upgrade projects. (but these are much smaller boats, with A26 displacement being around 2000 tonnes, so not a likely candidate)
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ANAO backs Australia’s Future Submarine acquisition

Illustration. Photo: RAN

A report on the Australian government’s handling of the Future Submarine acquisition was complimented by the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) in a report released on April 27.

Commenting on the report, Australia’s Minister for Defence Industry said the ANAO has independently verified that the competitive evaluation process to select an international partner for the Future Submarine Program was effectively designed and implemented.

“The ANAO’s findings clearly demonstrate that the Competitive Evaluation Process was a fit-for-purpose process and was effectively implemented by Defence,” Minister Christopher Pyne said.

While being overall complimentary, the report noted that the choice of a single partner for work on the concept and preliminary design phase carried certain risks. According to ANAO, selecting one partner for the design phase “removes competition in the design phase, and removes incentives for the international partner (DCNS) to produce a more economical and efficient build.”

“This places the onus on Defence to ensure that its approach to the Future Submarine’s design and build phases, where final costs and schedules will be determined, returns value-for-money to the Commonwealth in the absence of a competitive process,” the report further said.

All three participants of the competitive evaluation process, French DCNS, German TKMS and the Japanese government, received around AU$8 million for their participation, the report revealed.

Full article here: http://navaltoday.com/2017/04/28/anao-backs-australias-future-submarine-acquisition/