Aurat March twitter accounts running directly from US Embassy and Consulates

[HAIDER]

We are running between two social extremes ...

 

[LeGenD]

This is very alarming development and Pakistan - as a nation - needs to draw a line in this matter (i.e. IMMORALITY). WE risk loosing our national identity otherwise.

First and Foremost; there is a need to introduce Islamic teachings in regards to Islamic Way of Life including God-given rights to orphans, men and women in academic discourses, and make this compulsory for all educational institutes in Pakistan. GOP is in the position to make this happen. There is an absolute lack of this initiative however.

As for 'open advocates of immorality' in Pakistan; these individuals should be identified and issued a warning that they must drop this agenda [or] risk loosing their benefits in life. Their sources of funding should be traced and nipped in the bud. This responsibility can be assigned to a particular institute (or by GOP itself).

A charter of "anti-Islamic activities" should be created with consensus in the light of revelations in the Holy Quran and authentic Sunnah, and actions should follow this charter [only]. Anti-Islamic activities include open advocacy for LGBTQ+ agenda, sex outside wedlock, extramarital affairs, prostitution, pornography, blasphemy and shirk.

Freedom of Speech is a must for "many topics" but not for IMMORALITY. While there is no compulsion in religion in regards to individualistic practices of faith (these practices will vary; absolute NO to Taliban culture in Pakistan), being an 'open advocate of immorality' to the extent of damaging national culture grounded in Islamic values is another matter altogether.

@Horus
@Foxtrot Alpha
@AUz
@BHarwana

We are running between two social extremes ...

they don't have to do anything, these people stand exposed, it is upto public now whether they want to stand by the side of Govt or whether foreign funded stooges. if public decides to choose the latter then they can't be helped.

we did our job in exposing these entities,our job is done here and so is Govt's

Sir,

Public should not be allowed to play the role of Judge, Jury and Executioner in these matters. This will create a dangerous precedent of moral policing abuse across the country; unfortunate customs of Karo Kari and Blasphemy accusations come to mind.

Best course of action is to introduce Islamic discourse in educational institutes across Pakistan and make this compulsory. This should not be a Madrassah phenomenon.

Translations of the Holy Quran are accessible for FREE in the following link: https://quran.com/?local=en

Hadith are accessible for FREE in the following link: https://sunnah.com/

People stray from Islamic teachings due to absolute lack of Islamic discourse in the Academics of Pakistan.

Next important step is to regulate foreign funded NGOs and their role in facilitating immorality across Pakistan under the garb of promoting women rights.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

This is very alarming development and Pakistan - as a nation - needs to draw a line in this matter (i.e. IMMORALITY). WE risk loosing our national identity otherwise.

First and Foremost; there is a need to introduce Islamic teachings in regards to Islamic Way of Life including God-given rights to orphans, men and women in academic discourses, and make this compulsory for all educational institutes in Pakistan. GOP is in the position to make this happen. There is an absolute lack of this initiative however.

As for 'open advocates of immorality' in Pakistan; these individuals should be identified and issued a warning that they must drop this agenda [or] risk loosing their benefits in life. Their sources of funding should be traced and nipped in the bud. This responsibility can be assigned to a particular institute (or by GOP itself).

A charter of "anti-Islamic activities" should be created with consensus in the light of revelations in the Holy Quran and authentic Sunnah, and actions should follow this charter [only]. Anti-Islamic activities include open advocacy for LGBTQ+ agenda, sex outside wedlock, extramarital affairs, prostitution, pornography, blasphemy and shirk.

Freedom of Speech is a must for "many topics" but not for IMMORALITY. While there is no compulsion in religion in regards to individualistic practices of faith (these practices will vary; absolute NO to Taliban culture in Pakistan), being an 'open advocate of immorality' to the extent of damaging national culture grounded in Islamic values is another matter altogether.

@Horus
@Foxtrot Alpha
@AUz
@BHarwana





Sir,

Public should not be allowed to play the role of Judge, Jury and Executioner in these matters. This will create a dangerous precedent of moral policing abuse across the country; unfortunate customs of Karo Kari and Blasphemy accusations come to mind.

Best course of action is to introduce Islamic discourse in educational institutes across Pakistan and make this compulsory. This should not be a Madrassah phenomenon.

Translations of the Holy Quran are accessible for FREE in the following link: https://quran.com/?local=en

Hadith are accessible for FREE in the following link: https://sunnah.com/

People stray from Islamic teachings due to absolute lack of Islamic discourse in the Academics of Pakistan.

Next important step is to regulate foreign funded NGOs and their role in facilitating immorality across Pakistan under the garb of promoting women rights.

Very good post. Agree 100%.

CIA has a long history of association with the left wing in Pakistan. Why is this a surprise? Women's rights seems to be the USA's new driving foreign policy objective after the failure of the Bush and Obama doctrines in the region.

American Muslim communities are already infected and converted to this mindset which we seeing now coming to Pakistan.

US government and Muslim brotherhood USA have long sought to liberalize Muslims in the US to cut their ties and association with Muslim countries, most of whom are socially conservarive.

We even have Islamic scholars such as Omar Suleman (MB) who are promoting LGBT rights and coalitions in union with CAIR and politicians like Linda Sarsour, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Thlaib. More and more scholars jumping on the bandwagon. Now masajid are just a recruiting ground for liberal agendas and forcing Muslims to vote for these candidates through shaming and pressure.

We saw that in Malaysia, lesbianism is on the rise and Malaysians are understandably upset. These are the kinds of vices being promoted in the guise of moderate Islam.

@Desert Fox @Nein @Syed Hammad Ahmed @Hakim Dawary @Itachi @Ahmet Pasha

 

[SD 10]

Not the one's I linked above specifically but yes...a bunch of the liberal-secularist-feminist circle are "army brats" (they even use these words in their personal FB/twitter bios lol). One girl from Karachi has lost 2 cousins in ops---and she is the one who always brings LGBT flag in aurat march parades and wants to decriminalize homosexuality (among other things). Having a Brigadier uncle really boosts your confidence to be able to carry such flags/slogans openly while having your face recorded on camera. "Aam" admi like me would probably won't be able to do this type of activisim for long

A lot of these kids started out as normal....but something along the way fundamentally changed them. Education, internet, liberal domination of academia etc, I presume.

And oh, they all are extremely anti-Army, pro-PTM types. They all mock the idea of two-nation theory or having an Islamic state etc. But thats a given with this crowd, I presume...

i have studied in LIberal training ground (Lums) and i can assure you that these people are scums. They are more criminal than the religious extremists and they have no morality!

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

We saw that in Malaysia, lesbianism is on the rise and Malaysians are understandably upset. These are the kinds of vices being promoted in the guise of moderate Islam.

Homosexuality is legalised there?

American Muslim communities are already infected and converted to this mindset which we seeing now coming to Pakistan.

US government and Muslim brotherhood USA have long sought to liberalize Muslims in the US to cut their ties and association with Muslim countries, most of whom are socially conservarive.

We even have Islamic scholars such as Omar Suleman (MB) who are promoting LGBT rights and coalitions in union with CAIR and politicians like Linda Sarsour, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Thlaib. More and more scholars jumping on the bandwagon. Now masajid are just a recruiting ground for liberal agendas and forcing Muslims to vote for these candidates through shaming and pressure.

Those muslims are forced into it. They will have nobody then. One one hand they are against White Racist Thugs and on the other hand they are forced to shake hands with Liberals

We saw that in Malaysia, lesbianism is on the rise and Malaysians are understandably upset. These are the kinds of vices being promoted in the guise of moderate Islam

Source Wikipedia: Interesting no mention of Brunei, Bangladesh and Afghanistan

A 2013 Pew Research Center opinion survey showed that 9% of the Malaysian population believe homosexuality should be accepted by society, while 86% believe it should not.[28]Malaysia was one of the Asian countries polled with the least acceptance, in front of only Indonesia and Pakistan with 3% and 2%, respectively. People over 50 years old were more accepting than younger people: 11% of people over 50 believe it should be accepted, 10% of people between 30 and 49 and 7% of people between 18 and 29. There, however, was a slight increase in acceptance since 2007, when a Pew Research poll showed that 8% of the population believe homosexuality should be accepted.

 

[H. Dawary]

Very good post. Agree 100%.



American Muslim communities are already infected and converted to this mindset which we seeing now coming to Pakistan.

US government and Muslim brotherhood USA have long sought to liberalize Muslims in the US to cut their ties and association with Muslim countries, most of whom are socially conservarive.

We even have Islamic scholars such as Omar Suleman (MB) who are promoting LGBT rights and coalitions in union with CAIR and politicians like Linda Sarsour, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Thlaib. More and more scholars jumping on the bandwagon. Now masajid are just a recruiting ground for liberal agendas and forcing Muslims to vote for these candidates through shaming and pressure.

We saw that in Malaysia, lesbianism is on the rise and Malaysians are understandably upset. These are the kinds of vices being promoted in the guise of moderate Islam.

@Desert Fox @Nein @Syed Hammad Ahmed @Hakim Dawary @Itachi @Ahmet Pasha

This is the ideological war that had been going on since day 1 since Allah has made us, it will be up to Pakistan and Pakistanis to decide the right path.

(Allah) said: "Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out, for thou art of the meanest (of creatures)."
He said: "Give me respite till the day they are raised up." (Allah) said: "Be thou among those who have respite."
He said: "Because thou hast thrown me out of the way, lo! I will lie in wait for them on thy straight way:
"Then will I assault them from before them and behind them, from their right and their left: Nor wilt thou find, in most of them, gratitude (for thy mercies)."
(Allah) said: "Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee,- Hell will I fill with you all."

Qur'an 7.13-18

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Homosexuality is legalised there?

There was an incident involving two lesbians in a car in Malaysia, it shook their nation. Since then, many are cautious of American "scholars" coming to Malaysia to further this agenda.

 

[BHarwana]

This is very alarming development and Pakistan - as a nation - needs to draw a line in this matter (i.e. IMMORALITY). WE risk loosing our national identity otherwise.

First and Foremost; there is a need to introduce Islamic teachings in regards to Islamic Way of Life including God-given rights to orphans, men and women in academic discourses, and make this compulsory for all educational institutes in Pakistan. GOP is in the position to make this happen. There is an absolute lack of this initiative however.

As for 'open advocates of immorality' in Pakistan; these individuals should be identified and issued a warning that they must drop this agenda [or] risk loosing their benefits in life. Their sources of funding should be traced and nipped in the bud. This responsibility can be assigned to a particular institute (or by GOP itself).

A charter of "anti-Islamic activities" should be created with consensus in the light of revelations in the Holy Quran and authentic Sunnah, and actions should follow this charter [only]. Anti-Islamic activities include open advocacy for LGBTQ+ agenda, sex outside wedlock, extramarital affairs, prostitution, pornography, blasphemy and shirk.

Freedom of Speech is a must for "many topics" but not for IMMORALITY. While there is no compulsion in religion in regards to individualistic practices of faith (these practices will vary; absolute NO to Taliban culture in Pakistan), being an 'open advocate of immorality' to the extent of damaging national culture grounded in Islamic values is another matter altogether.

@Horus
@Foxtrot Alpha
@AUz
@BHarwana





Sir,

Public should not be allowed to play the role of Judge, Jury and Executioner in these matters. This will create a dangerous precedent of moral policing abuse across the country; unfortunate customs of Karo Kari and Blasphemy accusations come to mind.

Best course of action is to introduce Islamic discourse in educational institutes across Pakistan and make this compulsory. This should not be a Madrassah phenomenon.

Translations of the Holy Quran are accessible for FREE in the following link: https://quran.com/?local=en

Hadith are accessible for FREE in the following link: https://sunnah.com/

People stray from Islamic teachings due to absolute lack of Islamic discourse in the Academics of Pakistan.

Next important step is to regulate foreign funded NGOs and their role in facilitating immorality across Pakistan under the garb of promoting women rights.

You have posted good stuff but lost the actual idea.

These groups have nothing to do with women rights or what so ever they have their own agenda. They want disruption of govt system and make a collective approach to effect the foreign policy of the country they target. The campaign was launched from US embassy but USA it self has become a victim of these groups and are now totally under their control.

 

[Itachi]

We even have Islamic scholars such as Omar Suleman (MB) who are promoting LGBT rights and coalitions in union with CAIR and politicians like Linda Sarsour, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Thlaib. More and more scholars jumping on the bandwagon. Now masajid are just a recruiting ground for liberal agendas and forcing Muslims to vote for these candidates through shaming and pressure.

Exactly....I used to view Omar Suleiman in a good light....but no more....I know he has done a lot of good things for Islam like bringing awareness and doing dawah in the US but he's going off track now.

Do you by any chance read the FB postings of Daniel Haqiqatjou? He not only discusses the social issues prevalent in the US Muslim community but also expands on them with very sound reasoning.

Example:

American Muslim communities are already infected and converted to this mindset which we seeing now coming to Pakistan.

Exactly....if Pakistan and Pakistanis don't prepare themselves....armed with facts & facts from their religion/history also.....the above is what'll happen to their country.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Exactly....I used to view Omar Suleiman in a good light....but no more....I know he has done a lot of good things for Islam like bringing awareness and doing dawah in the US but he's going off track now.

I had lost hope in him long ago, but his McCarthy era-like attacks on Nouman Ali Khan really showed his true face. Many "scholars" in the US joined the public shaming of Nouman Ali Khan. I have come to realize that many are willfully or under coercion following the US government agenda. There are too many examples to share here.

We have to understand the ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood. They are a group which grew up under authoritarian rule of Arab dictators like Nasser, Assad, and others. They primary motive is to seize political power by any means necessary. They have suffered torture in prisons, become ostracized by society, forced to flee their home countries, and rebuild themselves with help from both US and KSA. Their dedication to this cause pervades all aspects of their thinking, faith, and society.

They have succeeded in monopolizing power over Muslim communities in North America, with overt help from the US government. Now the next agenda is to change the thinking of American Muslims to compromise basic beliefs for political gain and political alliances. They are fine with uniting with and promoting LGBT and others.

Do you by any chance read the FB postings of Daniel Haqiqatjou? He not only discusses the social issues prevalent in the US Muslim community but also expands on them with very sound reasoning.

Yes, he is a good resource. I read his stuff regularly, but his reviled by many of these liberal Muslims. These so-called leaders and imams attack him viciously and incessantly.

He is a brave brother.

 

[Old School]

The most effective and important solution is not present here. As per constitution , we are supposed to introduce shariah law in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in phases. All we are missing is a willing political front led by native Pakistanis without any connection to foreign Powers specifically, the toxic UK. I am sure that the armed forces of Pakistan will fully support this initiative. Leave it to the general public to deal with the so called Secular farmed Chickens of the rotten middle class.

 

[War Thunder]

Exactly....if Pakistan and Pakistanis don't prepare themselves....armed with facts & facts from their religion/history also.....the above is what'll happen to their country.

Ignorance is what sells well in the so called land of the pure mate.
Facts will happens when people will choose to use their brain instead of blindly depending on some Qazi, maulana and what not.
Imagine the amount of people who spend day and night listening to religious speakers and taking everything they say on blind faith, instead of actually trying to do some research of their own.

As for Omar Suleiman and others. They are normal humans and nothing special. They know stuff, but they are also easily mislead by the greatest of deceivers. People need to abandon the herd mentality and become a semi scholar within their own capacity. That's what Islam requires from them. But most are too lazy.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

That's why ISI is TOOOO defensive. No other country would allow this to happen.

Govt knows this. They just don't want to openly confront the Americans on this issue.

 

[El Sidd]

Classic good ol routine !!

First take the money to arrange these march and rights movement in middle of global health pandemic, then 'expose' them for being foreign agents and repeat it again next year.

The only thing this march ended up achieving is further damaging the women rights initiative in Pakistan.

Job Well Done !!

We are running between two social extremes ...

Is he a Shia Mullah?

Freedom of Speech

Give Soros his money back. Stop looting everyone you see, hear or smell.

 

[gwangju.khan]

We have to understand the ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood.

They have succeeded in monopolizing power over Muslim communities in North America, with overt help from the US government. Now the next agenda is to change the thinking of American Muslims to compromise basic beliefs for political gain and political alliances. They are fine with uniting with and promoting LGBT and others.

This is mostly false information about MB. Mostly repeated by UAE-backed media for propaganda purposes, as well as PragerU and other Americans to accuse liberals of Islamism