Attack China, Destroy Pakistan First

[BanglaBhoot]

This link might also be useful -

http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/13418

 

[daredevil]

US is not going to leave Afghanistan. It has got such a nice footprint in central asian region to counter russia and china.

 

[muse]

Perhaps - but it may find it's stay will not be comfortable - unless of course it's policies are in concorde with Afghanistan's neighbors.

 

[muse]

We have repeated invited Indian friends to reconsider hostility towards brother Chinese - Indian have no problem that they cannot solve with brother ally, India are a ancient civilization and it is unworthy that they offer themselves as a utility against the prosperity of all Asia -- Solving problems and differences make life worth living, acknowledging problems with a will to solving them is a good start:



Bridging India-China rift
Gulfnews: Bridging India-China rift

11/01/2008 10:58 PM | By N. V. Subramanian, Special to Gulf News



The sooner the better that India and China accept their inevitable strategic competition but limit that by working overtime on tactical cooperation. Two tactical areas needing immediate Chinese and Indian intervention are a fix for the world economy and overcoming terrorism from Afghanistan and Pakistan, affecting them both.

The Asia-Europe (ASEM) meeting on October 24 in Beijing, where Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was feted as a star economist by the Chinese Premier, Wen Jiabao, sets the ball rolling for Asian ideas to spearhead the rescue of international finance. In December, India will host the second counter-terrorism joint military exercise with China.

China fears the Indo-US nuclear deal. Unable to stop it in the Nuclear Suppliers' Group (NSG), it has not said "no" to Pakistan's matching demand for it, only constrained by certain international opposition of it and by grave doubts of Pakistan's stability. But the Indo-US deal, far from expanding India's deterrent, constraints it by obligations not to test and not to provoke a nuclear arms race with Pakistan. Indo-US military-to-military ties also raise Chinese hackles. China (and Russia) expressed concern over the 2007 Malabar war games in which India, the US, Australia, Singapore and Japan participated.

Only days before Manmohan Singh's ASEM visit to Beijing, China was found lobbying against India along with the so-called "Coffee Club" countries that include Pakistan, Italy, Egypt and Turkey. Even as Manmohan Singh was proceeding to Beijing, the Indian Foreign Minister, Pranab Mukherjee, told Parliament that progress on India's border dispute with China was not "very bright".

What causes India to erratically defy China? Very likely, a gross oversimplification and magnification of India-US relations since the nuclear deal and growing military-to-military ties. If indeed the US is building up India as an Asian counterweight to China, as some in the Indian establishment believe, it is going about it a queer way by severely circumscribing India's deterrent capability through the nuclear deal. Frankly, in the NSG waiver for India, the US and China were on the same side. US newspapers leaked that the US privately assured opposers that India would be bound not to test and would be denied enrichment and reprocessing rights and technologies.

Rather than flex phantom muscles, India would be well-advised to objectively assess its true strengths, and deal with China on a level of its comfort.

And rather than erratic defiance, India should solidify anti-terror links with China. India and China have a real opportunity to pool their talent and assist the world out of the economic crisis. But all this is done better with plain acceptance on both sides of strategic competition, which can then be gradually minimised.



N. V. Subramanian is the Editor of NEWSInsight (The Public Affairs Magazine- Newsinsight.net), an Indian public affairs magazine. He recently published his second novel, 'Courtesan of Storms' (Har-Anand: New Delhi, 2008).

 

[daredevil]

We have repeated invited Indian friends to reconsider hostility towards brother Chinese - Indian have no problem that they cannot solve with brother ally, India are a ancient civilization and it is unworthy that they offer themselves as a utility against the prosperity of all Asia -- Solving problems and differences make life worth living, acknowledging problems with a will to solving them is a good start:



Bridging India-China rift
Gulfnews: Bridging India-China rift

11/01/2008 10:58 PM | By N. V. Subramanian, Special to Gulf News



The sooner the better that India and China accept their inevitable strategic competition but limit that by working overtime on tactical cooperation. Two tactical areas needing immediate Chinese and Indian intervention are a fix for the world economy and overcoming terrorism from Afghanistan and Pakistan, affecting them both.

The Asia-Europe (ASEM) meeting on October 24 in Beijing, where Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was feted as a star economist by the Chinese Premier, Wen Jiabao, sets the ball rolling for Asian ideas to spearhead the rescue of international finance. In December, India will host the second counter-terrorism joint military exercise with China.

China fears the Indo-US nuclear deal. Unable to stop it in the Nuclear Suppliers' Group (NSG), it has not said "no" to Pakistan's matching demand for it, only constrained by certain international opposition of it and by grave doubts of Pakistan's stability. But the Indo-US deal, far from expanding India's deterrent, constraints it by obligations not to test and not to provoke a nuclear arms race with Pakistan. Indo-US military-to-military ties also raise Chinese hackles. China (and Russia) expressed concern over the 2007 Malabar war games in which India, the US, Australia, Singapore and Japan participated.

Only days before Manmohan Singh's ASEM visit to Beijing, China was found lobbying against India along with the so-called "Coffee Club" countries that include Pakistan, Italy, Egypt and Turkey. Even as Manmohan Singh was proceeding to Beijing, the Indian Foreign Minister, Pranab Mukherjee, told Parliament that progress on India's border dispute with China was not "very bright".

What causes India to erratically defy China? Very likely, a gross oversimplification and magnification of India-US relations since the nuclear deal and growing military-to-military ties. If indeed the US is building up India as an Asian counterweight to China, as some in the Indian establishment believe, it is going about it a queer way by severely circumscribing India's deterrent capability through the nuclear deal. Frankly, in the NSG waiver for India, the US and China were on the same side. US newspapers leaked that the US privately assured opposers that India would be bound not to test and would be denied enrichment and reprocessing rights and technologies.

Rather than flex phantom muscles, India would be well-advised to objectively assess its true strengths, and deal with China on a level of its comfort.

And rather than erratic defiance, India should solidify anti-terror links with China. India and China have a real opportunity to pool their talent and assist the world out of the economic crisis. But all this is done better with plain acceptance on both sides of strategic competition, which can then be gradually minimised.



N. V. Subramanian is the Editor of NEWSInsight (The Public Affairs Magazine- Newsinsight.net), an Indian public affairs magazine. He recently published his second novel, 'Courtesan of Storms' (Har-Anand: New Delhi, 2008).

This author looks very naive it the field of Defense.

There is a huge thread on Indo-US nuclear deal. There are multiple sources to indicate that india has enrichment and reprocessing rights, and the technology will be from France.

 

[daredevil]

Perhaps - but it may find it's stay will not be comfortable - unless of course it's policies are in concorde with Afghanistan's neighbors.

Sure, they don't want to have huge casualties to their army. Now they will start using Afghans to protect afghanistan and they will be busy with other strategic issues. Recently, Defense secretary, Robert gates said that War in Afghanistan is "Afghans war" not "American War". So, you can imagine, in which direction this is going to be.

 

[third eye]

We have repeated invited Indian friends to reconsider hostility towards brother Chinese - Indian have no problem that they cannot solve with brother ally, India are a ancient civilization and it is unworthy that they offer themselves as a utility against the prosperity of all Asia -- Solving problems and differences make life worth living, acknowledging problems with a will to solving them is a good start:


Cud u pls elaborate on the highlighted portion above.

 

[muse]

3rd Eye

Confrontation between China and India is a problem for all Asia, from Turkiye to Japan and it will effect directly the prosperity of all Asians - trade between india and China may soon reach US$ 60Billion and exceeed US$100 Billion in the coming decade, however; only if they are neighborly and determined to keep Western powers that seek to promote confrontation between them at bay.

Anyway, they are both Asian and have deep and ancient connections that ought to be cultivated.

Did China ever enslave the Indian? Did the Indian ever enslave to even desire to enslave the brother ally China? Why then allow the creation of ideas that have no place among Asians?

 

[zavis2003]

INDIA HOLE INDIA HOLE HOLE INDIA cannot bear Pakistan........

India is the country which now cant attacks pakistan directly but try to weaken our country by RAW terrorism.

So for HOLE INDIA dont wrie Articles YEH HAMARA KUCH NAHE BIGAR SKTAAY
HIMAT HAI TOU MEDAN MAIN AO

 

[Nihat]

INDIA HOLE INDIA HOLE HOLE INDIA cannot bear Pakistan........

India is the country which now cant attacks pakistan directly but try to weaken our country by RAW terrorism.

So for HOLE INDIA dont wrie Articles YEH HAMARA KUCH NAHE BIGAR SKTAAY
HIMAT HAI TOU MEDAN MAIN AO

 

[SmashJ]

INDIA HOLE INDIA HOLE HOLE INDIA cannot bear Pakistan........

India is the country which now cant attacks pakistan directly but try to weaken our country by RAW terrorism.

So for HOLE INDIA dont wrie Articles YEH HAMARA KUCH NAHE BIGAR SKTAAY
HIMAT HAI TOU MEDAN MAIN AO

Are you Retarted?

 

[moha199]

What are you laughing about it true if you are man enough then bring the battle. We Pakistani people are crazy for some Indian blood in war. Again just in WAR.

 

[moha199]

Are you Retarted?

No He or Pakistani people are acting like indians recently ahhahah. If this is what called retarted then may be Pakistan is also retarted and this guy too lol. Iam so sick of this indian hindu extreamism agaisnt Pakistani gov and ISI. Clear it from your side Pakistan will be fixed.

 

[zavis2003]

You people cannot understand the CHANKIOLOGY OF INDIAN GOVERNAMENT

INDIA doesnt seems to care about its people as so many poverty but try to down PAKSITAN (A great Country ) So ...................

I pray for u INDIANS that u should not be the victims of ur GOVERNAMENT next time.
and i suggest if next time MOMBAI DRAMA OCCURS simply goto POLICE STATION and make FIR against the INDIAN Governament for such cruel DRAMAS.
DHANAY WAD

 

[T-Rex]

Everyone seems to get excited about the authors name...Chan Akya and interpreting it as Chanakya.

So can someone explain the excitement behind it?

Chanakya was the Indian equivallent of Europe's Machiavelli, the man who advocated the separation of morality and politics.