Attack At URI---Was It Staged For Nawaz Sharif's Sake By India

[Pandora]

NAWAZ is one lucky SOB as he got saved by circumstances at many occasions.

 

[saiyan0321]

Sigh.

@MastanKhan posts on air force incompetence on induction of fighter jet to continue the conventional parity with India as well as on other matters of the airforce are golden and extremely informative as well as an insight to psyche of pakistan.

His posts covering war on terror fought by pakistan and its earlier days are even more interesting as they highlight the delusions that the nation of pakistan harboured which in turn also effected the army and led to unnecessary casualties bcz of our inability to realize that those that were picking arms and blowing themselves up against the state are not " our people" in the sense that they were traitors. I would advise all to read them to gain good insight.

However over here I will disagree. I have no love for nawaz but this is beyond conspiracy theory. You can argue that India did URI attack to divert attention from Kashmir issue ( personally don't believe that) but to save nawaz they would kill 18 soldiers, use diplomatic pull to start a campaign against pakistan and do all that strike rubbish for what? To save nawaz. Infact was nawaz in any danger at all. Intact is he even right now? Imran is taking this issue forward but the question remains does he even need saving since Panama leaks, despite being active, have done nothing against him. In fact it hasn't even fettered his vite bank as he won a few by election and is predicted to win the 2018 election.

 

[MilSpec]

Highest Military post and president! You got it?

I tell you what, most here who cast aspersions on Nawaz are from the same mold that hold Ayub's word at the highest regard. They will dis-regards Ayub's statement as an error in judgement than questioning his legacy.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

It was quoted as reference but that Gold Standard thing, whatever happens in India, diplomats and even Modi rushed to US to declare Pakistan this, that and what not hence not the gold standard. US complied to Supreme Court, lucky for NaMO.

US is the lone super-power and hence the need to keep her on one's side to be taken seriously. Doesn't make US Gold standard for fairness and judgment.

US didn't wait till Supreme Court's verdict to comply. In fact, no court in India has ever charged Modi as guilty. US just saw the writing on the wall about Modi's rising popularity and smelled a business opportunity through sensible rapprochement.

 

[The Eagle]

I wonder when did we denied that we helped BD achieve her freedom? After all it was Indian army General Niazi surrender to. What is there to hide?

Mukti Bahni used as proxy so there shouldn't be any complaint in-case we try something in India as what we learnt. I hope you will be first to accept it as their freedom. Gen. Niazi did the best to not to harm them Bengalis as we were not there to fight them but as they played by the hand of India that couldn't do so by herself yet fooled them in the name of Mukti Bahni, it was better to not commit the genocide unlike India.

Gujrat again huh !! Provide any legal - India or International - which can bind Modi as Riot agent. If not, let me politely ignore what can be classified as unsubstantiated rant.

Such rants wouldn't change the fact and not only to Gujrat, he will written as murderer of Kashmiris as well and i am sure, even from inside India, people are calling him as RSS PM.

 

[-xXx-]

The rest of your post is saved for record but your question for why no action is because of immature voters same as like RSS wing BJP is in power even after all the extremism even Kijerwal is questioning. Someone speaks about peace or NaMO's incompetence, is branded as ISI agent. An Indian jumps to Pakistani discussion must be ready for the references as well. He is Indian supporter or not, will be revealed but needs time.

Horrible analogy trying to draw parallel between political and ideological differences and being a stooge/traitor.

But I agree, the OP is as stupid as any Indian branding political opponent as an ISI agent. I call both types idiots.

Where do you stand?

 

[Mentee]

I tell you what, most here who cast aspersions on Nawaz are from the same mold that hold Ayub's word at the highest regard. They will dis-regards Ayub's statement as an error in judgement than questioning his legacy.

In Ayub's time , American defence agreements with Pakistan were paying off, folks were reaping the benefits through and through and Pakistanis did witness an economic boom, that's all-----

 

[A.M.]

These types of lunacy theories are unhealthy.

 

[The Eagle]

As per you, even US respect our institutions and accepted the verdict. Is there any weight left in US banning? It may best be termed as precautionary action untill investigation is on.

As there were plans and he could be Handy for many yet granted with such certificate. See LEMOA and etc to stand against China for US.

As I said earlier, no parallel exist b/w India and Pakistan in this case. We and our Institution have all faith in our government and we never label them as Pakistani stooge.

Like any minister questions the so-called strike as well that Sanjiv etc.

 

[MilSpec]

In Ayub's time , American defence agreements with Pakistan were paying off, folks were reaping the benefits through and through and Pakistanis did witness an economic boom, that's all-----

In the context of topic, by claiming Fatima Jinnah to be an agent of India and America, what he did was set a deadly precedent, Now it doesn't take a minute for people to claim he or she whoever that may be is a foreign agent. Right from the prime minister of your country, political leaders, cricketers, bureaucrats, journalists, even the @WebMaster and moderators on the forum are fair game for this mudslinging match. Once it was deemed ok to label Fatima Jinnah as such, everyone else is fair game, and thus this thread.

 

[MastanKhan]

It is not just public but our establishment is also responsible for not only his return and rigged election success but also the survival of his traitorship.
Why did Mushy Booshy not hang NS and instead handed him over to Arabs to enjoy a lavish life since he himself was a weak character who was thinking about this post retirement plans.
Then Gen RS has not done anything against NS despite seeing the public demonstration and murders of 17 people by SS in Lahore.
Your courts do not want to even entertain any suit against NS and election commission is in NS pocket. NAB can't do anything.
That simply means Pakistan's establishment is totally supporting him despite all of his treachery against the state. What helpless situation and finally it will result in a bloody revolution and , I wish I'm wrong, in a civil war.

Hi,

When Benazir Bhutto died---there was lots of chaos in the country---train and diesel locomotives were targeted and burnt and I blamed the peoples party for that---.

Recently Iearnt that it was not people party---but it was our own Shahbaz Sharif ordering his workers over the phone from abroad to burn the diesel locomotives---and the military has the tapes---.

Now---how could military allow such a person to be back in power---that is a question that needs to be asked.

 

[The Eagle]

US didn't wait till Supreme Court's verdict to comply. In fact, no court in India has ever charged Modi as guilty. US just saw the writing on the wall about Modi's rising popularity and smelled a business opportunity through sensible rapprochement.

Seeking the opportunity, tapped the back and here comes LEMOA, anti-China stance on behalf of US hence going to pay the price. US is not that simple or for any business to loose, they know how to earn. Once Taliban were also blue eyed boys for them so you may get the idea.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Seeking the opportunity, tapped the back and here comes LEMOA, anti-China stance on behalf of US hence going to pay the price. US is not that simple or for any business to loose, they know how to earn. Once Taliban were also blue eyed boys for them so you may get the idea.

How is that even relevant?

You, like many other Pakistanis on here, brandish the fact that even US banned Modi from entering - as if US is supposed to be seen as a Gold standard for fairness. My only point was to dispute that and to say that US is guided by her own interests and banning Modi should be seen only in that context.

 

[-xXx-]

Mukti Bahni used as proxy so there shouldn't be any complaint in-case we try something in India as what we learnt. I hope you will be first to accept it as their freedom. Gen. Niazi did the best to not to harm them Bengalis as we were not there to fight them but as they played by the hand of India that couldn't do so by herself yet fooled them in the name of Mukti Bahni, it was better to not commit the genocide unlike India.

Read ICJ report on event that lead to 1971 war.
http://icj.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/...st-Pakistan-1971-thematic-report-1972-eng.pdf

We can discuss then on fact and not some emotion lad post high on text low on information.

Such rants wouldn't change the fact and not only to Gujrat, he will written as murderer of Kashmiris as well and i am sure, even from inside India, people are calling him as RSS PM.

Fact yes, because YOU said so. As I expected, no legal finding from your side - Indian or International.

At least spent some time to find out rather than bombarding me with post with no references but individual whims.

As there were plans and he could be Handy for many yet granted with such certificate. See LEMOA and etc to stand against China for US.

So now contradicting yourself since you didn't find your own assertion supporting your arguments? Change of heart? Please decide first whether US dissolve the ban because Indian Institution absolve Modi of charges or because of national interest they saw in Modi?

But I dont remember you giving me any legal process or jurisdiction that went in US which can justify that ban not being a precautionary measure?

Like any minister questions the so-called strike as well that Sanjiv etc.

If you have read, with interest, and tried to comprehend what I said in my earlier post, being critical or inquisitive does not amount to labeling someone traitor or foreign stooge. Surgical strikes have lot of hidden chapters and one may ask for more proofs which government may or may not reveal for national interests.

Rest we have fools, as I said in my earlier post. But we dont question and distrust our highest of institutions based on what lunatic post on twitter.

Do you?

PS: Please quote some factual arguments in case you chose to respond. We can not argue merely based on prejudice and opinions.

 

[The Eagle]

Where do you stand?

Now we are talking. The OP opinion is based upon development and some narration inside Pakistan within different circles though such could be political stunts but not sure until a proper enquiry concludes and till then, the dots will be connected as appears to be but who knows what in the end. Interestingly, I read it that even Zia became aware of NS growing relations with Indians through business means but R&AW was involved and he was about to get rid of him.