Attack At URI---Was It Staged For Nawaz Sharif's Sake By India

[Stephen Cohen]

Better this than having a murderer philanderer moron as your PM.

There are many TV discussions on Pakistani TV channels
PRAISING Modi's work ; efforts and achievements and ABOVE all he being
totally Incorruptible and honest

If only you would search for them

Its quite possible. The timings of such events always bring these questions up. Also, at the time of Kargil, when Vajpayee minority government got weak, they "discovered" Pakistani soldiers in Kargil, "defeated" them and became heroes, only to win the election back again. Who was in power, PML-N and BJP. Everyone knows what happened to PML-N after that. There is a pattern to sub-continent politics, if one dares to think. There are alliances between various parties and back channels, who often use their militaries and their public for political gains. However, in the patriotic brouhaha, the rational minds and critical thinkers are silenced to think these things through.

Kargil was the ACHIEVEMENT of General Musharraf

Infact he helped Vajpayee to come back to Power

 

[gayMo]

You indians remain deluded again.............. at one hand you say "Pakistan is ruled by its Army" or something like "Countries own an army and Pakistan Army owns a country". And here we have this statement.............. What is it? Make your mind for once.

Edit: To support the claim I made about indians being delude



https://defence.pk/threads/om-puri-...sion-supports-pakistani-artists.453344/page-2

What I say is not contradictory , a lot of afghans need to be sent back as a result of this, all this cannot be done without angering US. This needs an alibi and Peshawar was it.

 

[I.R.A]

What I say is not contradictory , a lot of afghans need to be sent back as a result of this, all this cannot be done without angering US. This needs an alibi and Peshawar was it.

You again are contradicting aged old statement of your countrymen, remember indians blame us for benefiting from international money in the name of Afghan refugees. Either that is a lie or you really are trying hard to make Pakistan look bad from every angle even when it does good, you are trying nothing new by the way, its same old indian tactic to exploit terror attacks in Pakistan and india to their benefit, meaning india is always the victim.

By the way you know what I personally believe that killing of Pakistani children and students started after modi became PM of india. His countless hate filled statements are on record.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

The only example of ‘Ghost’ attack or pretext that I remember was the Gulf of Tonkin incident of 1964 which started the Vietnam War. It was reported that USS Maddox was attacked by North Vietnamese torpedo boats resulting in a brief firefight where North Vietnamese boats were damaged with no US casualties. In 2005 it was revealed that Maddox had fired 3 shots but there were no causalities or damage to any of the vessels involved. This incident was used to get Congress approve ‘Gulf of Tonkin’ Resolution which resulted in the Vietnam War.

Sacrificing one or two may be acceptable for justification or a pretext for war but not a major incident such as URI attack. Therefore I regret my inability to swallow that Indian gov’t or any gov’t for that matter, would arrange killing of 18 of her soldiers in order to create a pretext to start a war or to help another country’s PM.

It is also hard to believe that the whole URI episode is totally fake. I would repeat my earlier postulation that the incident is the work of Islamic extremist elements, who would like an armed confrontation between India & Pakistan so that they could create an ISIS like state in Pakistan in the aftermath.

I am however deeply disappointed at the jingoistic attitude of the Indian media and the security analysts etc. who are drunk with power and arrogance and intent on keeping a high state of tension.

Perhaps living abroad for 50 years and having contacts with a vast number of different nationalities have turned me into a pacifist. No matter what is the reason, I cannot see what good can come out of an India/ Pakistan war and how this would resolve Kashmir or any other problem.

It is not the URI attack is that is under doubt, but the trumped up surgical strike which did not happen, or was a botched operation that both sides have quietly agreed to keep trumpeting/denying for mutual greater good. Meanwhile, the people on both sides are the true victims, taking sides and becoming patronized in the schemes of their respective governments of mass manipulation and control, while the rich get richer.

You again are contradicting aged old statement of your countrymen, remember indians blame us for benefiting from international money in the name of Afghan refugees. Either that is a lie or you really are trying hard to make Pakistan look bad from every angle even when it does good, you are trying nothing new by the way, its same old indian tactic to exploit terror attacks in Pakistan and india to their benefit, meaning india is always the victim.

By the way you know what I personally believe that killing of Pakistani children and students started after modi became PM of india. His countless hate filled statements are on record.

There are many in India that denounced the attack in peshawar on the children, just like I denounce all terrorist attacks in India and Pakistan, whether NSA or state sponsored. I hope rational thinking continues to prevail on both sides.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

It is not the URI attack is that is under doubt, but the trumped up surgical strike which did not happen, or was a botched operation that both sides have quietly agreed to keep trumpeting/denying for mutual greater good. Meanwhile, the people on both sides are the true victims, taking sides and becoming patronized in the schemes of their respective governments of mass manipulation and control, while the rich get richer.

Indian people are fully supportive of their Army and the Government

And we are proud of the Army's action across the LOC

Of course the Opposition parties are getting JEALOUS ; but they can go to hell

 

[RepublicOk]

Pakistanis and their conspiracy theories.

 

[punit]

There are many TV discussions on Pakistani TV channels
PRAISING Modi's work ; efforts and achievements and ABOVE all he being
totally Incorruptible and honest

If only you would search for them



Kargil was the ACHIEVEMENT of General Musharraf

Infact he helped Vajpayee to come back to Power

kargil war was false flag of India! makes sense

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Okay keeping Uri incident on side.
Why there was no voice from NS in kulbhushan yadav's case ?
Why NS and company dump that big cash that was in hands of Pakistan ?
and
What could India had done if they had captured a Lt. Col level officer of ISI inside India ?

His tilt towards India more than Pakistan is no more secret

because he is a businessman not a fighter
what is wrong if there is something to gain? if he was mad as Modi the Butcher then we would have seen a war already. at least people in India can see that our leadership is not frenzied with war-songs.

 

[The Eagle]

so considerate that they only killed 3 millions !!

Propagate a lie then speak more to cover the first and keep repeating as people will doubt the truth and start to believe the lie.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I am not too interested on what other members here view the current events as, but I am not sure if you were in hurry or if you crafted this post intentionally.
In you first line you say that it is a coincidence for shariff, that TTP attacks or India does everytime he see political pressure.
And then you say
"now Uri incident maybe an exception and may not be related to Nawaz "
Uri exception to what ? the coincidence that you established meaning it was deliberate?, and the terms maybe and May do not show any confidence in highest chair of your own country.


Wait a couple of months, with the influx of new members and few mentos, dimaag gi batti jalni hi hai.

dont over analise brother
times are tough for us
and we are still recovering from the surgical strike
where we don't see the trauma or the effects
credit to your special forces and how they pulled it off. OBL raid in Abbotabad was shambles compared to this masterpiece

so take it easy. like I said its a happy coincidence for him that a disturbance on the eastern borders or a major terror attack gives him a breathing space against mounting opposition.

 

[gayMo]

You again are contradicting aged old statement of your countrymen, remember indians blame us for benefiting from international money in the name of Afghan refugees. Either that is a lie or you really are trying hard to make Pakistan look bad from every angle even when it does good, you are trying nothing new by the way, its same old indian tactic to exploit terror attacks in Pakistan and india to their benefit, meaning india is always the victim.

By the way you know what I personally believe that killing of Pakistani children and students started after modi became PM of india. His countless hate filled statements are on record.

Yea what I say is still true, Cpec is much more money than what America paid to drone bomb or give truck passage to Afg.
Peshawar is all sharifs doing. Why wasn't a Punjab school attacked and only a A school in kpk attacked? Because Pashtuns are expendable and army is all Punjabi Sunni

 

[The Eagle]

Being a Chief Minister of a state which experienced violent riots is different from calling the man elected as PM, a stooge of a foreign country. The first one can be accounted for as a difference of opinion/taste, the second is an allegation of treason. Not the same.

Nothing to be said on topic though. It's a loony idea, best left as such. Nobody in India cares that much for NS, least of all Modi. There is an almost crazy belief in Pakistan that NS & Modi are friends without explaining why Modi would be NS's friend. NS has delivered nothing, your army is not answerable to him, what use do we have for this guy .

Well currently he is safe corner due tension on LoC that gives him a room to carry on with usual while opposition has no choice so this is all is for public consumption. You don't need to worry whether he is of any use or not.

 

[I.R.A]

Yea, Cpec is more money than what America paid to drone bomb or give truck passage to Afg.

You see ............ I told you Pakistan can never be the victim in your eyes, Pakistan and Pakistanis must be making money from everything even by killing their own children ............... such is the problem with ignorant hate filled Goswamis like you. You must also think Pakistan made money from alleged Sir G Kal strikes?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Everywhere else, terror strikes and inability to achieve foreign policy goals put more pressure on ruling government. How come such event help Nawaz in Pakistan?

Why not such incident add to his failure list rather than being a substitute for his other major fallacies?

attention moves away from his failures and corruption. criticism on failed diplomacy is muted and national interest to be united for sake of patriotism takes the priority

 

[gayMo]

You see ............ I told you Pakistan can never be the victim in your eyes, Pakistan and Pakistanis must be making money from everything even by killing their own children ............... such is the problem with ignorant hate filled Goswamis like you. You must also think Pakistan made money from alleged Sir G Kal strikes?

Exactly my feeling when these guys said Mumbai is an inside job and also pathankot and uri etc.
My post was originally a sarcastic retort to some one saying Nawaz sharif and Modi planned uri.it never crossed my mind before that there is such thing as an inside job.