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Those bombs were dropped only when both US and Russia had consensus.

Russia's ace in Syria isn't S-400 but A-50U. You can run, but you can't hide.

Can't hide? You sure about that? I suggest reading this article:


How F-22 Is Deconflicting U.S.-Russia Operations Over Syria

“Shell” was just days into his first deployment to U.S. Central Command (Centcom) when U.S. Navy destroyers launched a surprise strike against the Syrian regime, pummeling Shayrat Airfield with dozens of Tomahawk cruise missiles. In the tense wake of the attack, Shell, a U.S. Air Force lieutenant colonel and Raptor squadron commander who spoke on the condition that Aviation Week identify him only by his call sign, and his squadron of stealth F-22 Lockheed Martin Raptors had a critical job to do: deconflict coalition operations over Syria with an irate Russia. The U.S.-led campaign against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has leaned heavily on the air-superiority fighter since its debut there in 2014. The F-22, originally designed as an air-to-air platform, has become crucial to the fight, regularly striking ground targets, providing close air support (CAS) for soldiers in battle, and protecting legacy strike fighters from surface and air threats. But one of the most critical missions the F-22 conducts in the skies over Syria, particularly in the weeks following the April 6 Tomahawk strike, is deconfliction between coalition and noncoalition aircraft, says Shell. Of course, the F-22 is not the only asset deconflicting the crowded skies over Centcom. The Air Force’s airborne command-and-control aircraft and high-altitude intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance platforms, as well as ground-based command-and-control forces, are also helping clear the area. But the stealth F-22’s ability to evade detection gives it a unique advantage in getting noncoalition players to cooperate, says Shell. “It is easier to bring air dominance to bear if you know where the other aircraft are that you are trying to influence, and they don’t know where you are,” says Shell. “When other airplanes don’t know where you are, their sense of comfort goes down, so they have a tendency to comply more.”

The F-22 provided a crucial communications node when tensions between the U.S. and Russia were running high. Following the Tomahawk strikes, Moscow condemned the attack and suspended the so-called “deconfliction line” the two countries used to coordinate air operations over Syria. U.S. President Donald Trump said relations with Russia were at an “all-time low.” But U.S. and noncoalition aircraft were still communicating directly, over an internationally recognized, unsecure frequency often used for emergencies known as “Guard,” says Shell. His F-22s acted as a kind of quarterback, using high-fidelity sensors to determine the positions of all the actors on the battlefield, directing noncoalition aircraft where to fly and asking them over the Guard frequency to move out of the way. The Raptors were able to fly in contested areas, in range of surface-to-air missile systems and fighters, without the noncoalition players knowing their exact positions, Shell says. This allowed them to establish air superiority—giving noncoalition forces freedom of movement in the air and on the ground—and a credible deterrent. “If we need to let them know that we are there for any reason, then we will let them know that we are there—usually to deter something that they are trying to do that we don’t want them to do,” he explains. During those weeks after April 6, Shell and his squadron temporarily moved all of their operations into Syria. In addition to helping deconflict and deter noncoalition actors, the F-22s also provided defensive counter-air for allied forces on the ground and in the air, and occasionally conducted ground strikes and CAS, Shell says. He stresses that the interactions with noncoalition aircraft were always “professional,” adding that his squadron experienced “nothing that raises any eyebrows.” Two months after the strikes, Shell’s squadron is back to splitting its time between Iraq and Syria.

The aircraft is performing “immaculately,” even in mission sets it was not built for, such as CAS, Shell says. As of May 28, the Raptor had conducted 1,150 sorties, including 497 CAS sorties, and employed 1,572 weapons since the beginning of Operation Inherent Resolve in 2014, according to the Air Force. In the CAS role, the F-22 augments the platforms already conducting that mission in the region, such as the F-15E, the B-52 bomber and the A-10, Shell says. While the A-10 is renowned for the roar of its 30-mm Gatling gun and its long loiter time, the F-22 brings precision-guided munitions (PGM) such as the GBU-32 and Small-Diameter Bomb. PGMs significantly reduce civilian casualties and potential damage to buildings and other structures in the area, Shell points out. Although the F-22 can perform CAS well, it is not built for that role as is the A-10— it is just another tool combatant commanders can use to complete the mission, Shell stresses.

Overall, the most important thing the Raptor brings to the OIR fight is air superiority, Shell says. “Our ground troops have not been attacked from the air since April 15, 1953, and that is because of the U.S. Air Force providing air dominance,” he adds. “The F-22 is the primary provider of air superiority in Operation Inherent Resolve.”

http://aviationweek.com/defense/how-f-22-deconflicting-us-russia-operations-over-syria
 
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Exactly, and some keyboard warriors think it is to do with fat kim and his missiles.
But the trillion yuan question is - how to bell the cat???? They tried with outsourcing to India, believing in India's rhetoric, but a single "Kung-fu" kick - albeit "social media" savvy - nipped all the US hopes in the buds!!!!! Since what can't be cured needs to be endured, at the end of the day the US's smart folks will be working for China to earn their paychecks!!! On a personal note, it has already started at my day job!!! And, Trump & Co (the tycoon) are no exceptions....

Trump should learn Nixon ... of course i know he won't.
It's neither about Nixor nor Trump. It's the establishment. They do learn...

in every war there are many things which cant be calculated accurately specially when you are messing with a nuclear power. this war wont be like afghanistan or iraq. you never know kim launches preemptive strike after getting reliable information through her intelligence resources about US invasion. the other major factor that cant be calculated at all is the response of china and russia. russian support for assad against the US launched terrorists in syria took US by surprise and US puppets are facing defeat in syria.
Even without nukes the last outing wasn't exactly a picnic either. 55K dead had to be left behind...
 
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War is inevitable unless kim backs down.I fear south korea might be devastated in the process with damage on japan also possible.We have around 1 year,unless kim backs down north korea will be attacked.USA will never accept NK regime having ability to strike US mainland.China or Russia may back NK by proxy,but none of them will fight the US military directly.(unless us ground troops invade NK and try to annex it which will not happen)

It is going to a bloodbath and be rest assured that Russia and China won't back off on this one. Russia has already made its intentions crystal clear in Syria. Not in a million years is China going to allow Trumpland to wage a war against NK. All differences put aside.

Another very important distinction is that this time around China and Russia are going to feel much more emboldened with Trump in office. The world is disgusted with Trump and that gives everyone a license to do as they like. No one gives a hoot what an orange entertainer says or feels.
 
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This is a double edged strategy.... the mad man of Korea can mis read a blip on radar and launch full blown attack on Korea Japan and even US thinking that he is about to be nuked

Even worse is he may go silent for 5 years and really develop his competencies... than What?? .. if u want to nuke do it now
 
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War is inevitable unless kim backs down.I fear south korea might be devastated in the process with damage on japan also possible.We have around 1 year,unless kim backs down north korea will be attacked.USA will never accept NK regime having ability to strike US mainland.China or Russia may back NK by proxy,but none of them will fight the US military directly.(unless us ground troops invade NK and try to annex it which will not happen)

Oh really? Why hasn't the US attacked DPRK yet since the first nuclear test? This is already the sixth one and the missile tech keeps getting better. Then again you also said China has no balls during the standoff yet Indians fled back after seeing our missiles getting ready to declare war with India :rofl: , i wouldn't bet on the bravery of US when China and Russia are directly involved with DPRK.
 
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Oh really? Why hasn't the US attacked DPRK yet since the first nuclear test? This is already the sixth one and the missile tech keeps getting better. Then again you also said China has no balls during the standoff yet Indians fled back after seeing our missiles getting ready to declare war with India :rofl: , i wouldn't bet on the bravery of US when China and Russia are directly involved with DPRK.

The cheerleading Indian is on the losing side, but he won't admit.

Trump is picking fights with the whole world including his home country. You just have to look at the extreme division he has managed to cause among ordinary Americans from all walks of life. I am enjoying this fascinating contest. Some Zionists and rapists backing Trump won't make an iota of difference. They are after all the clear minority.

This is how it stands. It is the world vs Trumpland. It is outrageously funny when Trump talks about rogue vs civilized when actually the whole world considers Trumpland to be unstable and unfit to lead. You can already gauge the mood among traditional US allies who don't want to be seen near this crazy pu$$ygrabber. The European countries are clearly distancing themselves from this madman. You just won't hear an affirmative YES from the allied nations on anything that Trump utters. Trump is divisive, ugly and an amateur. He and his ugly cronies have put their 'Murica to shame. It is a bizarre situation how Trump minions try to flex their muscles when everything goes against them.

Not to even mention the list of growing countries who were already at dispute with the US. It is one fvcked up situation. All this world needed was an orange apprentice entertainer to be elected in the most powerful position the world has known. Fvcking brilliant! This is just epic.

Don't want to give you a spoiler here, but this Trump presidency won't end well. However, Trump won't leave without an insane bang. We are about to witness something unseen and totally off the charts. Trump just cannot resist. He will do something insanely crazy. NK is going to serve as Trump's graveyard. You can mark my words on that one. Trump is going to stir the hornets nest. Trumpland is going to find out the extremely painful way what The consequences are.
 
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The cheerleading Indian is on the losing side, but he won't admit.

Trump is picking fights with the whole world including his home country. You just have to look at the extreme division he has managed to cause among Americans. I am enjoying this fascinating contest. Some Zionists and rapists backing Trump won't make an iota of difference. They are after all the minority.

This is how it stands. It is the world vs Trumpland. It is outrageously funny when Trump talks about rogue vs civilized when actually the whole world considers Trumpland to be unstable and unfit to lead. You can already gauge the mood among traditional US allies who don't want to be seen near this crazy pu$$ygrabber. The European countries are clearly distancing themselves from this madman. You just won't hear an affirmative YES from the allied nations on anything that Trump utters. Trump is divisive, ugly and an amateur. He and his ugly cronies have put their 'Murica to shame.

Not to even mention the list of growing countries who were already at dispute with the US. It is one fvcked up situation. All this world needed was an orange apprentice entertainer to be elected in the most powerful position the world has known. Fvcking brilliant! This is just epic.

Don't want to give you a spoiler here, but this Trump presidency won't end well. We are about to witness something unseen and totally off the charts. Trump just cannot resist. He will do something insanely crazy. NK is going to serve as Trump's graveyard. You can mark my words.

These people just don't get it OR they do but want to put up a thick brave face of US superiority. Look at the bravery, courage, sacrifice made by the Soviets and Chinese during WW2, look at China's sacrifice during the Korean War. We would go all the way safeguarding our direct border with DPRK. If they think China and Russia have became cowards let the Americans come and fire the first shot, the world will see whether China and Russia are bluffing or not. :devil:

Maybe @vostok can confirm this?
 
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These people just don't get it OR they do but want to put up a thick brave face of US superiority. Look at the bravery, courage, sacrifice made by the Soviets and Chinese during WW2, look at China's sacrifice during the Korean War. We would go all the way safeguarding our direct border with DPRK. If they think China and Russia have became cowards let the Americans come and fire the first shot, the world will see whether China and Russia are bluffing or not. :devil:

Maybe @vostok can confirm this?

We all know the 'Muricans are good at bluffing. Let them fire the first shot and we will see.
 
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Can't hide? You sure about that? I suggest reading this article:


How F-22 Is Deconflicting U.S.-Russia Operations Over Syria

“Shell” was just days into his first deployment to U.S. Central Command (Centcom) when U.S. Navy destroyers launched a surprise strike against the Syrian regime, pummeling Shayrat Airfield with dozens of Tomahawk cruise missiles. In the tense wake of the attack, Shell, a U.S. Air Force lieutenant colonel and Raptor squadron commander who spoke on the condition that Aviation Week identify him only by his call sign, and his squadron of stealth F-22 Lockheed Martin Raptors had a critical job to do: deconflict coalition operations over Syria with an irate Russia. The U.S.-led campaign against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has leaned heavily on the air-superiority fighter since its debut there in 2014. The F-22, originally designed as an air-to-air platform, has become crucial to the fight, regularly striking ground targets, providing close air support (CAS) for soldiers in battle, and protecting legacy strike fighters from surface and air threats. But one of the most critical missions the F-22 conducts in the skies over Syria, particularly in the weeks following the April 6 Tomahawk strike, is deconfliction between coalition and noncoalition aircraft, says Shell. Of course, the F-22 is not the only asset deconflicting the crowded skies over Centcom. The Air Force’s airborne command-and-control aircraft and high-altitude intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance platforms, as well as ground-based command-and-control forces, are also helping clear the area. But the stealth F-22’s ability to evade detection gives it a unique advantage in getting noncoalition players to cooperate, says Shell. “It is easier to bring air dominance to bear if you know where the other aircraft are that you are trying to influence, and they don’t know where you are,” says Shell. “When other airplanes don’t know where you are, their sense of comfort goes down, so they have a tendency to comply more.”

The F-22 provided a crucial communications node when tensions between the U.S. and Russia were running high. Following the Tomahawk strikes, Moscow condemned the attack and suspended the so-called “deconfliction line” the two countries used to coordinate air operations over Syria. U.S. President Donald Trump said relations with Russia were at an “all-time low.” But U.S. and noncoalition aircraft were still communicating directly, over an internationally recognized, unsecure frequency often used for emergencies known as “Guard,” says Shell. His F-22s acted as a kind of quarterback, using high-fidelity sensors to determine the positions of all the actors on the battlefield, directing noncoalition aircraft where to fly and asking them over the Guard frequency to move out of the way. The Raptors were able to fly in contested areas, in range of surface-to-air missile systems and fighters, without the noncoalition players knowing their exact positions, Shell says. This allowed them to establish air superiority—giving noncoalition forces freedom of movement in the air and on the ground—and a credible deterrent. “If we need to let them know that we are there for any reason, then we will let them know that we are there—usually to deter something that they are trying to do that we don’t want them to do,” he explains. During those weeks after April 6, Shell and his squadron temporarily moved all of their operations into Syria. In addition to helping deconflict and deter noncoalition actors, the F-22s also provided defensive counter-air for allied forces on the ground and in the air, and occasionally conducted ground strikes and CAS, Shell says. He stresses that the interactions with noncoalition aircraft were always “professional,” adding that his squadron experienced “nothing that raises any eyebrows.” Two months after the strikes, Shell’s squadron is back to splitting its time between Iraq and Syria.

The aircraft is performing “immaculately,” even in mission sets it was not built for, such as CAS, Shell says. As of May 28, the Raptor had conducted 1,150 sorties, including 497 CAS sorties, and employed 1,572 weapons since the beginning of Operation Inherent Resolve in 2014, according to the Air Force. In the CAS role, the F-22 augments the platforms already conducting that mission in the region, such as the F-15E, the B-52 bomber and the A-10, Shell says. While the A-10 is renowned for the roar of its 30-mm Gatling gun and its long loiter time, the F-22 brings precision-guided munitions (PGM) such as the GBU-32 and Small-Diameter Bomb. PGMs significantly reduce civilian casualties and potential damage to buildings and other structures in the area, Shell points out. Although the F-22 can perform CAS well, it is not built for that role as is the A-10— it is just another tool combatant commanders can use to complete the mission, Shell stresses.

Overall, the most important thing the Raptor brings to the OIR fight is air superiority, Shell says. “Our ground troops have not been attacked from the air since April 15, 1953, and that is because of the U.S. Air Force providing air dominance,” he adds. “The F-22 is the primary provider of air superiority in Operation Inherent Resolve.”

http://aviationweek.com/defense/how-f-22-deconflicting-us-russia-operations-over-syria
but after u.s tomohawk strike in Syria u.s never again used them though they said that they will do more such strike who is stopping them.russia has also strike u.s influence regions in Syria with jets and cruise missiles but u.s did nothing which shows u.s weakness
 
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But the trillion yuan question is - how to bell the cat???? They tried with outsourcing to India, believing in India's rhetoric, but a single "Kung-fu" kick - albeit "social media" savvy - nipped all the US hopes in the buds!!!!! Since what can't be cured needs to be endured, at the end of the day the US's smart folks will be working for China to earn their paychecks!!! On a personal note, it has already started at my day job!!! And, Trump & Co (the tycoon) are no exceptions....

China has gone past the point that it needs money. It's seeking power now. I mean if you are world biggest oil consumer/market, why on earth you want to trade and project another country currency? It's a no brainer. And yes there will many willing Americans who will Rock the boat, there are many who hate federal reserve bank with passion.
 
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China has gone past the point that it needs money. It's seeking power now. I mean if you are world biggest oil consumer/market, why on earth you want to trade and project another country currency? It's a no brainer. And yes there will many willing Americans who will Rock the boat, there are many who hate federal reserve bank with passion.
That's the biggest issue for the Pentagon boys - dissension within the USA herself!!!! It's the time to panic....
 
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They are jumping the boat already. They guy is a Israeli national! Aliens have used and abused US of A.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...ice-chair-stanley-fischer-resigns-year-early/

US Federal Reserve vice-chair Stanley Fischer resigns year early
And the white folks, especially the middle age ones, are getting angrier by each passing day!!! Trump is just a symptom!!! And, the Pentagon boys are still playing "super power" while the ground is slipping out of their feet!!! The folks at the top aren't at the same level of security at those at the bottom!!!! And, shouting out the piece of mind with acrimony doesn't befit the statesmen, it's more for the folks at the receiving end....
 
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