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Prime Minister Narendra Modi appears to have gone beyond the cautious approach usually advocated by the tightly-knit 'China group,' an informal team of Sinologists at India's ministry of external affairs in dealing with Beijing during his China tour.

In reminding the Chinese that there are 'complex' issues 'holding back relations,' Modi was more than candid. He said in Premier Li Keqiang's presence: 'I stressed the need for China to reconsider its approach on some of the issues that hold us back from realising full potential of our partnership. I suggested that China should take a strategic and long-term view of our relations.'

Usually, Indian leaders do not speak with such frankness, largely preferring to be diplomatic, an approach preferred by MEA mandarins.


The prime minister then reiterated his desire for a quick solution during his address at Tsinghua University. There he said: 'Yet, if we have to realise the extraordinary potential of our partnership, we must also address the issues that lead to hesitation and doubts, even distrust, in our relationship. First, we must try to settle the boundary question quickly.'

Even the joint statement reflected a subtle shift in how New Delhi and Beijing look at the boundary issue now. Part of the statement said: 'The two sides affirmed that an early settlement of the boundary question serves the basic interests of the two countries and should be pursued as a strategic objective by the two governments. Bearing in mind the overall bilateral relations and the long-term interests of the two peoples, the two sides are determined to actively seek a political settlement of the boundary question.'

Premier Li, in his written interview to India Today just before Modi's trip began, also spoke about the need to speedily settle the border. 'The boundary question is left over from history, and is a difficult question in bilateral relations. To settle the question as early as possible is the historical responsibility that falls on both governments...'

This is an important shift from what was said in Bejing in October 2013 when the Border Defence Cooperation Agreement was signed. That time, both sides were mostly talking about keeping the border quiet and finalising the framework for the boundary settlement.


Part of the joint statement that time said: 'Special Representatives, who have been charged with exploring a framework of settlement of the India-China boundary question, were encouraged by the two leaders to continue their efforts in that direction. Peace and tranquility on the India-China border was recognised as an important guarantor for the development and continued growth of bilateral relations.'

Another instance of the prime minister's bold initiative was his decision to allow e-visas to Chinese citizens wishing to travel to India. Modi appears to have taken a calculated risk in this matter although the security agencies and even the MEA appeared to have had reservations on this move.

The prime minister has been criticised by hardliners for not linking the decision of e-visas to the resolution of 'stapled visa' that the Chinese occasionally issue to residents of J&K and Arunachal Pradesh.

However, the Prime Minister's Office looks to have decided to put greater emphasise on people-to-people contact between India and China. Pointing out that 'Indians and Chinese don't know each other well, much less understand each other,' Modi has taken a big step forward in correcting this shortcoming.

Moreover, by reaffirming the demand for clarification of the Line of Actual Control, India is adopting a similar tactic as the Chinese who stick to their stand irrespective of the response from the other side.

Modi had made this suggestion for the first time last September when President Xi Jinping was in India. Beijing has not responded to the idea yet. By once again raising the point, New Delhi has now put the ball in China's court. If the Chinese don't respond, then the border talks will continue to stagnate.


Similarly, for the first time both sides have acknowledged their role in the larger international context. 'The leaders agreed that simultaneous re-emergence of India and China as two major powers in the region and the world offers a momentous opportunity for realisation of the Asian Century. They noted that India-China bilateral relations are poised to play a defining role in the 21st century in Asia and indeed, globally.'

In conclusion, a more confident New Delhi and an already assertive Beijing, currently led by two strong and nationalist leaders are willing to play a more proactive role in world affairs, their divergent views on some issues notwithstanding.


At last, an Indian leader who knows how to deal with China - Rediff.com India News
 
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With all due respect all chinese members here know that some day china will have to fight USA to get super power status and if they have to win they will need russia and india on their side, long term means that India would support china if they stop their expansionist ideology towards india and mark international border, other wise history would repeat itself.....china fighting a 4 front war with NATO in south korea, east Chinese coast , Myanmar and than on indian front.....
 
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Prime Minister Narendra Modi appears to have gone beyond the cautious approach usually advocated by the tightly-knit 'China group,' an informal team of Sinologists at India's ministry of external affairs in dealing with Beijing during his China tour.

In reminding the Chinese that there are 'complex' issues 'holding back relations,' Modi was more than candid. He said in Premier Li Keqiang's presence: 'I stressed the need for China to reconsider its approach on some of the issues that hold us back from realising full potential of our partnership. I suggested that China should take a strategic and long-term view of our relations.'

Usually, Indian leaders do not speak with such frankness, largely preferring to be diplomatic, an approach preferred by MEA mandarins.


The prime minister then reiterated his desire for a quick solution during his address at Tsinghua University. There he said: 'Yet, if we have to realise the extraordinary potential of our partnership, we must also address the issues that lead to hesitation and doubts, even distrust, in our relationship. First, we must try to settle the boundary question quickly.'

Even the joint statement reflected a subtle shift in how New Delhi and Beijing look at the boundary issue now. Part of the statement said: 'The two sides affirmed that an early settlement of the boundary question serves the basic interests of the two countries and should be pursued as a strategic objective by the two governments. Bearing in mind the overall bilateral relations and the long-term interests of the two peoples, the two sides are determined to actively seek a political settlement of the boundary question.'

Premier Li, in his written interview to India Today just before Modi's trip began, also spoke about the need to speedily settle the border. 'The boundary question is left over from history, and is a difficult question in bilateral relations. To settle the question as early as possible is the historical responsibility that falls on both governments...'

This is an important shift from what was said in Bejing in October 2013 when the Border Defence Cooperation Agreement was signed. That time, both sides were mostly talking about keeping the border quiet and finalising the framework for the boundary settlement.


Part of the joint statement that time said: 'Special Representatives, who have been charged with exploring a framework of settlement of the India-China boundary question, were encouraged by the two leaders to continue their efforts in that direction. Peace and tranquility on the India-China border was recognised as an important guarantor for the development and continued growth of bilateral relations.'

Another instance of the prime minister's bold initiative was his decision to allow e-visas to Chinese citizens wishing to travel to India. Modi appears to have taken a calculated risk in this matter although the security agencies and even the MEA appeared to have had reservations on this move.

The prime minister has been criticised by hardliners for not linking the decision of e-visas to the resolution of 'stapled visa' that the Chinese occasionally issue to residents of J&K and Arunachal Pradesh.

However, the Prime Minister's Office looks to have decided to put greater emphasise on people-to-people contact between India and China. Pointing out that 'Indians and Chinese don't know each other well, much less understand each other,' Modi has taken a big step forward in correcting this shortcoming.

Moreover, by reaffirming the demand for clarification of the Line of Actual Control, India is adopting a similar tactic as the Chinese who stick to their stand irrespective of the response from the other side.

Modi had made this suggestion for the first time last September when President Xi Jinping was in India. Beijing has not responded to the idea yet. By once again raising the point, New Delhi has now put the ball in China's court. If the Chinese don't respond, then the border talks will continue to stagnate.


Similarly, for the first time both sides have acknowledged their role in the larger international context. 'The leaders agreed that simultaneous re-emergence of India and China as two major powers in the region and the world offers a momentous opportunity for realisation of the Asian Century. They noted that India-China bilateral relations are poised to play a defining role in the 21st century in Asia and indeed, globally.'

In conclusion, a more confident New Delhi and an already assertive Beijing, currently led by two strong and nationalist leaders are willing to play a more proactive role in world affairs, their divergent views on some issues notwithstanding.


At last, an Indian leader who knows how to deal with China - Rediff.com India News

Actually India now mounted tremendous amount of pressure on Communist party of China . We have played our game right .Thanks to our new government agencies . Now people of China has seen and changed their perception on India .They way Modi ji got response from people is the proof of it . And both sides know about consequences of War between us . Chinese and India will inflict more damage to each other than anyone else . So we cleverly done everything thing which have to be done .

Its high time Chinese CPC ride on the mood / will of their people or become suspicious to the general public . Chinese may ban twitter fb etc but LOL PM opened Webido account to interact with young Chinese and their people .

Game on
 
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With all due respect all chinese members here know that some day china will have to fight USA to get super power status and if they have to win they will need russia and india on their side, long term means that India would support china if they stop their expansionist ideology towards india and mark international border, other wise history would repeat itself.....china fighting a 4 front war with NATO in south korea, east Chinese coast , Myanmar and than on indian front.....

you do realize china has thermonuclear weapons, like the USA, hence if "china will have to fight USA" then game over for everyone. and you think china has to fight korea and myanmar? lol someone is delusional, myanmar can even fight its own sizable rebel armies and lets not forget NK has nukes now too, you think SK is just so willing to lose half their population over a war NK didn't start for some silly delusions of yours? take a pill and come back to the real world.
 
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With all due respect all chinese members here know that some day china will have to fight USA to get super power status and if they have to win they will need russia and india on their side, long term means that India would support china if they stop their expansionist ideology towards india and mark international border, other wise history would repeat itself.....china fighting a 4 front war with NATO in south korea, east Chinese coast , Myanmar and than on indian front.....
Myanmar?? Lol do they have a formidable force o_O
 
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With all due respect all chinese members here know that some day china will have to fight USA to get super power status and if they have to win they will need russia and india on their side, long term means that India would support china if they stop their expansionist ideology towards india and mark international border, other wise history would repeat itself.....china fighting a 4 front war with NATO in south korea, east Chinese coast , Myanmar and than on indian front.....
India is irrelevant in this context and will India wanted the equation quotas to be upset with US stay behind China in 10years time?
 
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Pakistan will Nuke India.
NATO will not fight for Korea no matter what.
So China will probably have India only to fight.
These are not countries fighting China, these are fronts of war....and any country would think 1000 times before going for such a war.......Pakistan is making nukes for the Saudi's and have broken several laws.....what will u nuke us????we are going to change our nuclear posture from defensive to offensive.
“you may win the war if u use nukes, but second strike would ensure that Pakistan is cleared from the world map- second strike"

Myanmar?? Lol do they have a formidable force o_O
Its not Myanmar fighting China, it is invasion ground for the USMC .....

you do realize china has thermonuclear weapons, like the USA, hence if "china will have to fight USA" then game over for everyone. and you think china has to fight korea and myanmar? lol someone is delusional, myanmar can even fight its own sizable rebel armies and lets not forget NK has nukes now too, you think SK is just so willing to lose half their population over a war NK didn't start for some silly delusions of yours? take a pill and come back to the real world.
These are multiple NATO invasion spots selected by USA.....for USMC like Normandy landings in France.....about thermonuclear bombs....China is responsible country..... Will u fight a nuclear conflict for Pakistan???, if yes then face the reality that the active US ICBM's are greater than entire Chinese arsenal......

India is irrelevant in this context and will India wanted the equation quotas to be upset with US stay behind China in 10years time?
US has always tried to bring down its competitor's economically, militarily, and mentally..... Any one who tried to compete with US went down in history...... UK, france, spain, Germany, Soviet Union, japan and now China.....US is evil...... They have secured 5200 years of nuclear fuel for their navy....what do we have????nothing.....so if in near future we dont stand with China....US is going to do same with us.....
 
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For China, it's a zero sum game where the borders are concerned. It's the whole of Arunachal or bust. Nothing less is acceptable to them. If that's the case, sorting out the border dispute is a non starter.

China should accept the McMahon Line as the border with India just as it did in the case of Myanmar to resolve the vexed dispute. This selective approach by China of recognizing the McMahon Line in the case of Burma and not so in the case of India is bizarre and illogical.
 
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For China, it's a zero sum game where the borders are concerned. It's the whole of Arunachal or bust. Nothing less is acceptable to them. If that's the case, sorting out the border dispute is a non starter.

China should accept the McMahon Line as the border with India just as it did in the case of Myanmar to resolve the vexed dispute. This selective approach by China of recognizing the McMahon Line in the case of Burma and not so in the case of India is bizarre and illogical.

you clearly dont know what you are talking about. check every other border dispute china has ever solved. every single one of them involves some give and take.

furthermore, just because china made some agreement with burma means nothing for india/china negotiations as each negotiation is a separate matter and it is neither bizarre nor illogical. just because india signed an agreement with the US to buy arms for defence don't mean the US should automatically sign a similar deal with china for defence, dont you think?

moreover, the so called mcmahon line was never recognized by the PRC nor the preceding ROC nor the preceding qing empire, meaning it has zero legitimacy, just because the british forced it on the qing using their then more powerful military does not in any way mean modern PRC should accept it.

in addition actual chinese control has already extended past that line, why on earth, in a geopolitical sense, would china give up so much(including its link to pakistan) and receive...what exactly in return?
 
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With all due respect all chinese members here know that some day china will have to fight USA to get super power status and if they have to win they will need russia and india on their side, long term means that India would support china if they stop their expansionist ideology towards india and mark international border, other wise history would repeat itself.....china fighting a 4 front war with NATO in south korea, east Chinese coast , Myanmar and than on indian front.....

Nonsense!!!
 
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These are multiple NATO invasion spots selected by USA.....for USMC like Normandy landings in France.....about thermonuclear bombs....China is responsible country..... Will u fight a nuclear conflict for Pakistan???, if yes then face the reality that the active US ICBM's are greater than entire Chinese arsenal......

that doesn't even make any sense. you are suggesting then that the USMC invade myanmar so that they can invade china? through the thick jungles? by invading myanmar they would have already tipped off the chinese, the myanmar military might be a pushover for the US but not so quick that the USMC can take it over without anyone else in the world knowing. oh and the US just blatantly invaded a neutral country in an act of naked aggression here.

and to be clear i dont think the nuke will be involved. for one this war is extremely unlikely, and secondly, theres not a chance in hell the US can hope to occupy china, in fact, its unlikely the USMC can do much against the PLA at all, if the US were to pull all of its forces from elsewhere and involve all branches of its military it might be able to take some coastal cities(with appalling casualties on all sides) , even then probably not for long, the PLA is simply too strong on its own homeland.

and given there is no nuclear guaranteed between china and pakistan im pretty sure i can say china is not going to fight a nuclear war for pakistan, however, your point that the US arsenal is much larger mean exactly nothing. blowing up the world 50 times overs isnt more threatening than blowing it up once over. china only has the arsenal it has because it chooses it, it has calculated that what it has is all that's needed, if tension rise and a real prospect of war appears(wars dont happen in a vacuum, there's always a buildup/tension prior) you really think china doesn't have the tech or weapon to match the US arsenal if thats whats called for?
 
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MR MODI’ visit to China is great success, at least for the next 4 years, India will concentrate more attention on country building up then looking for confrontations with China. Now hope the two neighbors can shelve the problems and seek co operations.
But you know Chinese people are not as optimistic as Indians, since the establish of the communist China, China has faced too much hostilities from all the major countries around the world, and is still face the containment from “countries share the same ideology”. so you can trust Chinese know how to work with Indians.
 
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