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Every year, Times Higher Education, a magazine in Britain, rates universities on the quality of their teaching and research. In 2011, it began a separate ranking based on a more nebulous criterion: a school’s reputation according to the opinions of about 17,000 academics.

Last Thursday, the magazine released its second World Reputation Rankings in a report that said, “The West loses ground to the East in the global index of academic prestige.”

The very elite schools, which the magazine calls the “top six supergroup,” are the same American and British schools that top most university rankings: Harvard in Massachusetts; the Massachusetts Institution of Technology; Cambridge in England; Stanford in California; the University of California, Berkeley; and Oxford in England. The United States dominates the list, with 44 of the top 100 universities in the world.

Japan is the only Asian nation to crack the top 20, with the University of Tokyo, also known as Todai, keeping its previous spot as No. 8, and Kyoto University squeaking in at No. 20.

Phil Baty, the editor of the Times Higher Education Rankings, said by telephone from London that Japan’s success was “exceptional” and was based on decades of postwar development.

“Our reputation as Japan’s leading university is unquestioned,” said Masako Egawa, Todai’s executive vice president. “It is built on Todai’s long tradition of educating the nation’s political, industrial, scientific and cultural elite and its role as a key route for acquiring Western learning, the route by which Japan became the first non-Western developed state.”

The upward movement of Asian schools is seen mostly in the rankings’ second tier. The National University of Singapore moved up to 23 from 27. Tsinghua University in Beijing improved its standing to 30 from 35. Peking University rose to 38 from 43, leapfrogging the University of Hong Kong, which moved up to 39 from 42.

“East Asia is consistently creeping up the rankings,” Mr. Baty said. “The notable shift is from West to East. It’s subtle, but significant.”

“Everyone is conscious of Asia’s rising and of the increase in government funding. That contrasts with the problems we’ve had, with austerity measures and students rioting in Westminster,¨ he said, referring to mass protests in London in late 2010 over rising university fees.

Tan Chorh Chuan, president of the National University of Singapore, said in a statement that the magazine’s ranking of his institution was “a strong endorsement of our continued efforts to pioneer educational innovations that provide a top quality education, global student exchange and internship opportunities, as well as our cutting-edge research.”

Top Asian schools seem to do better when ranked on reputation than on more solid criteria and performance. In the more conventional rankings, Todai is listed at 30 and Tsinghua at a modest 71.

“Reputation is more forward looking,” Mr. Baty said about the discrepancy. “Meanwhile, our regular rankings take a long time to climb, since they depend on criteria like research and citations.”

The best-regarded 100 universities are still overwhelmingly Western and Anglophone. China is the only country among the world’s four major developing nations — the others are Brazil, India and Russia — to have a big presence.

Brazil is represented by one school, the University of São Paulo, which ranks among the top 70 schools. Russia and India have no schools in the top 100.


“There’s a real buzz about China, but there are still problems with academic freedom, curriculum and building a culture of inquiry,” Mr. Baty said. “China is producing more research, but it now needs to look at the impact of that research, and not just the quantity of papers. If you look at hard, objective indicators, China has a long way to go.

“For the Harvards and Cambridges of the world, academic freedom is very important. This is the next step for East Asia.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/19/w...ning-respect-report-finds.html?_r=1&ref=china

I'm sorry India and {east} Russia. Low IQ = Crappy university


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this brings me back to when the indians were argueing that their "education system" was one of the aspects that they are better than china in. i lol'ed and showed them the world rankings with the best Indian university in the 200's

they also have a stronger economy, a much better health care system, a far more advanced science and technology base, a much higher R&D spending.

oh, let's don't forget national IQ, when Chinese have an average IQ of 85, theirs is 105!
 
they also have a stronger economy, a much better health care system, a far more advanced science and technology base, a much higher R&D spending.

oh, let's don't forget national IQ, when Chinese have an average IQ of 85, theirs is 105!

and still the "high IQ" pretending chinese get beaten hands down by IITians anywhere they go.

funny.. isn't it. :laugh:
 
Refer to education, In fact, I don't think china education is successful, they have much shortage. Now we can put much money on education, But it is not money problem, china education need reform, especially higher education.
 
Leave it Brah. IITians beat the graduates from any Chinese university hands down. That is a fact.
buddy i disagre u on this ...i m an IITian too..and believe me IITians are lazy brats...!!cop.y cats with no innovative mindsets!!but one thing i must say that the students who qualify IITjee are the smartest of all!!no one bearing them..but all those smartness gets unattended and unvalued in those so called world class IITs!!no room for any researchers here...!!no respect for those opting for research

this brings me back to when the indians were argueing that their "education system" was one of the aspects that they are better than china in. i lol'ed and showed them the world rankings with the best Indian university in the 200's
buddy our universities lack infrastructure and vision...but our students are really world class!!beleive me..i m not arguing that india is better than china..(which i know isnt the truth)but the students here are really good!!
 
Refer to education, In fact, I don't think china education is successful, they have much shortage. Now we can put much money on education, But it is not money problem, china education need reform, especially higher education.

sorry dear .. but china already burnt too much money building ghost cities. more spending inflates the bubble further.

and even the current "graduates" are struggling for labour jobs on factory shop floor .... will they want to borrow further for education?
 
buddy i disagre u on this ...i m an IITian too..and believe me IITians are lazy brats...!!cop.y cats with no innovative mindsets!!but one thing i must say that the students who qualify IITjee are the smartest of all!!no one bearing them..but all those smartness gets unattended and unvalued in those so called world class IITs!!no room for any researchers here...!!no respect for those opting for research
buddy our universities lack infrastructure and vision...but our students are really world class!!beleive me..i m not arguing that india is better than china..(which i know isnt the truth)but the students here are really good!!
Wont allow us to troll peacefully na? :shout:
 
sorry dear .. but china already burnt too much money building ghost cities. more spending inflates the bubble further.

and even the current "graduates" are struggling for labour jobs on factory shop floor .... will they want to borrow further for education?
one empty sector in one of small cities in inner-mongolia and a simpleton thinks there are many empty cities, god the high caste bhartis have done a perfect job to keep the mass uneducatd and brainwahsed.

and the graduates in my small factories earn at least 2 times more than the so-called indian 'middle-class'
but when i was visiting Indians factories, god, most of them were been treated like a dirt, those so-called labour law as 'effective' as the indians efficiency.

my Italian and french suppliers went to there twice and gave up that hopleless low skilled place, and coming to China at least 4 times a year to build up relationships with Chinese customers, because they were amazed by the domestic consumption power and speed its growing

so i really have no idea that how long the highly inflated India economy will last, and when will their foreign debtors will ask India to payback their money?
 
Here is another ranking report: QS World University Rankings 2011/12

world-university-rankings

Ranking of universities of greater China / Asia in top 100 :

22 University of Hong Kong
25 The University of Tokyo
28 National University of Singapore
32 Kyoto University
37 The Chinese University of Hong Kong
40 The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
42 Seoul National University
45 Osaka University
46 Peking University
47 Tsinghua University
57 Tokyo Institute of Technology
58 Nanyang Technological University
70 Tohoku University Japan
80 Nagoya University Japan
87 National Taiwan University
90 KAIST - Korea Advanced Institute of Science & Technology
91 Fudan University
98 Pohang University of Science And Technology S Korea
 
Here is another ranking report: QS World University Rankings 2011/12

world-university-rankings

Ranking of universities of greater China / Asia in top 100 :

22 University of Hong Kong
25 The University of Tokyo
28 National University of Singapore
32 Kyoto University
37 The Chinese University of Hong Kong
40 The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
42 Seoul National University
45 Osaka University
46 Peking University
47 Tsinghua University
57 Tokyo Institute of Technology
58 Nanyang Technological University
70 Tohoku University Japan
80 Nagoya University Japan
87 National Taiwan University
90 KAIST - Korea Advanced Institute of Science & Technology
91 Fudan University
98 Pohang University of Science And Technology S Korea

that list is BS. University of HK better than UCSB, UCD, UCI?! Better than UCLA?! You kidding?!
 
No point in looking at these rankings. They care mainly about research output, and high research output does not imply that your students are taught well.
 

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