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Too many people are making way too many claims without evidences backing them up.



Let play this game, name the top 5 Japanese films for the last 3 years. Then the last 5 American films in the last 3 years. Then compare them in the criteria you create.
You mean technology or popularity?
For me, hollywood movies should be watched in the cinema and if I watch it online, I will use ten minutes for each. European movies appeal to me much more, but they are not mainstream hero movies and mostly not English, so they cannot survive in this American culture-dominated world.
 
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If you think movies is anything other than propaganda and the power to influence popular opinion, then you are very naive. I would like to encourage Asians to take pride in their own culture/people and not buy into Hollywood's agendas, like promoting the Anglo-white standard of beauty and the narrative of America saving the World from aliens, zombies, vampires, using super-advanced alien weapons developed in Area 51, etc.

You are one mental case. Even the chineses on here who read my posts in the past would know what my views on Asian culture, and bout American culture.

Movies are first and foremost is to make money. It reflect the filmmakers' values and the target audiences' values. The protagonists from American film are certainly more racial diverse than that of Chinese films, even though most of them are whites reflected American audience population.

I think you piss off during 2 things. I mentioned Yu Zheng. Do you know who is Yu Zheng? This Yu Zheng is the guy who all chinese hate. This Yu Zheng guy is the guy who another Taiwanese sue and won. And is accuse of copying plenty of author. In an article written by a chinese, and I didn't even seek it out so you can't complain that i seek out articles to to make the Chinese look bad.

The articles state that there are certain censorship in place that authors just like to copied with what already work and passed through such a system rather than create something original. Feel free to correct me on that. Instead of going on a goddam rant over bullshit things. My gosh, I have a lot of respects for the Chinese. But boys, the people that thumb you up are a bunch of thin skin.
 
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The Chinese animation firm aiming to rival Hollywood
By Neil KoenigSeries producer, The New Entrepreneurs

A familiar issue for many businesses these days is a scarcity of top talent.

Chinese film studio Light Chaser Animation has taken an unusual approach to help to solve this problem - it bought a robot.

The device is a "telepresence robot", which it acquired from California-based Double Robotics. It consists of a battery-powered mobile platform to which an iPad is attached.

The wi-fi controlled device can move around the company's offices and it allows animation director Colin Brady - who lives in Los Angeles and did not want to move to China - to communicate with the rest of the team in Beijing.

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The "telepresence robot" allows a key American worker to communicate with the team
He says he uses the robot more than he initially expected to. "During meetings and interviewing new employees, it is very helpful to look people in the eye and then look at their screen," says Mr Brady.

"It is very weird to be a robot that can roll around independently and surprise people at their desks, but that's a little bit of the fun part too." The best thing for him about using it is it allows him to spend more time at home.

His assistant Mo Chen says: "It's a bit scary when Colin suddenly shows up from behind, but thankfully, this doesn't happen a lot." But she says she does not find it weird talking to Colin through the device, since she is used to using Apple's Facetime app.

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Mr Wang says he is bad with "routine stuff" and always wants to try new ideas
Company founder Gary Wang says the robot is just one example of the new communication tools that are now available to make working easier for teams that are dispersed across the world.

He adds that recruiting and retaining the right staff is absolutely vital for start-up businesses.

"If you hire 'A' class people they will hire 'A' class people from that point on. If you hire 'B' class people then… it will just go downhill from there. So we want to find our 'A' class people."

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Light Chaser is housed in an artistic compound on the outskirts of Beijing
Mr Wang says the goal of the company is to produce animated movies like those made by Pixar and Dreamworks, aiming to achieve the same level of quality as the giant US studios.

He believes that the time is right for his new venture. As China goes through a transition from an economy based on industry, to one more driven by domestic consumption, he sees a growing appetite for home-produced entertainment.

"There are a tremendous number of people inside China who are looking to see stuff that's related to them, rather than just seeing another American film," he says.

Light Chaser has already made one short film and work is under way on its first feature.

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The company's first feature film is planned for release in early 2016
Little Door Spirits is a fantasy tale aimed at a family audience. Although the content and characters are definitely Chinese, Mr Wang says he also has one eye on the wider international market.

"We want to make… something that can be shared with anyone in the world."

Light Chaser is not Mr Wang's first enterprise. In 2005, he founded Tudou, a video-sharing site which launched shortly before YouTube.

The business grew quickly, attracting millions of users. But after it merged with another Chinese video-sharing firm, Youku, Mr Wang says he became restless.

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Mr Wang believes there is growing demand for Chinese-made films
He began to look for a fresh venture. He considered several possibilities, such as creating a vineyard. Eventually the notion of starting an animation company emerged.

Mr Wang says he soon discovered that putting his idea into practice was not going to be easy. "It requires a lot of people to do an animation feature film - we calculated about 150 people… in various disciplines, [from] artists to computer tech support, animators, lay out and so on."

The problem was that it was difficult to find people with the right skills in China, because few, if any, large-scale animated movies were being made at the time.

"We needed to do a poaching trip," he says.

He travelled to California, visiting Hollywood and Silicon Valley, and ended up hiring a handful of highly experienced people, who helped him to recruit the rest of the team.

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It takes about 150 people to make one Light Chaser Animation film
Mr Wang says he is in the fortunate position to have raised the resources to make several feature films over the next few years. If the movies prove to be successful, he sees the potential to expand into other areas, such as merchandising or even theme parks.

Read more: New Entrepreneurs

However, he recognises that he has entered a very risky business.

There is also a lot hanging on his shoulders. He is not only the company's chief executive, he is also the screenwriter and director. He says his previous experiences of writing novels and plays has been helpful with the latter roles.

Mr Wang believes it is in his nature to attempt to overcome difficult challenges. Some of the biggest difficulties many entrepreneurs face are uncertainty and self-doubt. He says he learnt to push these fears aside - and urges others to do the same.

"There's an old Chinese saying that when a boat hits the bridge, it will go straight again, [all] by itself," he says. "It basically means that it's actually not that terrifying. The big unknown is just like anything else."



Master Jiang and the Six Kingdoms
Hand drawn animated by two person.

Not related to movies, but Jin Yong related.
Actually I think the current hollywood-style movies backed mainly by technology are mostly craps. I love those pre-2000 Chinese movies, full of humanity and connotation. Now, yes, they make money, but I feel they have no soul just like most hollywood movies.
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Speaking of Korean crap, have you seen 'The admiral, Roaring currents'? Believe it or not, its an Imjin war movie that doesnt even mention the Ming in at all. Not one word.

China should make an authentic Imjin war movie to depict the reality of Korean cowardice, futility and lack of martial spirit. Korean 'soldiers' would literally fire three arrows and run away scrambling over each other to avoid the Japanese samurai and levies.

Once upon a time in China are classic. Everyone know them, I want to hear something new. I shouldn't even mentioned China at all in this thread. If anything China a country with 1.3 billions (there ought to be plenty of outrageous ideas), advancing technology, and plenty of rich folks to fund very good original movies. China is a potential rival to Hollywood and then a compliment. But these Chineses on this forum are so goddam thinskinned about it. That even a neutral post could be taken out as anti Fucking Asian. Whatever, their rant is way more propaganda than said a generic Hollywood film.

Also refrain from your nationalism here about enjoying a movie. But really do you want the Korean to make a Korean film that portray badly about themselves and make China look good. Like you say, the Chinese should make that version of the movie. It all about the money, which Korean will go see the one that you are making.

Actually I think the current hollywood-style movies backed mainly by technology are mostly craps. I love those pre-2000 Chinese movies, full of humanity and connotation. Now, yes, they make money, but I feel they have no soul just like most hollywood movies.

I agree with you here. Lower budget Chinese movies are very good. The heavy CGI films and tv are annoying. I haven't feel annoying about those Hollywood films because they show constrain. But within in 10 years, there should be improvement and have good chinese CGI films.
 
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Actually I think the current hollywood-style movies backed mainly by technology are mostly craps. I love those pre-2000 Chinese movies, full of humanity and connotation. Now, yes, they make money, but I feel they have no soul just like most hollywood movies.
That depends on what you like to watch. Ever watch Kung Fu Panda or Shawshank Redemption? Believe me, I don't watch every western movies. In my opinion, Transformers are pretty bad.
 
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You mean technology or popularity?
For me, hollywood movies should be watched in the cinema and if I watch it online, I will use ten minutes for each. European movies appeal to me much more, but they are not mainstream hero movies and mostly not English, so they cannot survive in this American culture-dominated world.

Something wrong with you AndrewJin. Don't you compel to attack me like the rest of the Chinese in this forum. I kowtow to your human decency.

Let pick these 10.

That depends on what you like to watch. Ever watch Kung Fu Panda or Shawshank Redemption? Believe me, I don't watch every western movies. In my opinion, Transformers are pretty bad.

Transformers is never consider a good movie. It sit at 7.2 on imdb, a C-, 57% on rotten (only 57% of the critics give it a passable grade). And that Transformers is the best of all the Transformers movie. And btw, I never saw crap like that. But I believe that movie is pretty popular in China. It is popular among kids in the USA.

American Film Institute - AFI Awards 2014

look like this didn't post last time.

Here AndrewJin
 
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Once upon a time in China are classic. Everyone know them, I want to hear something new. I shouldn't even mentioned China at all in this thread. If anything China a country with 1.3 billions (there ought to be plenty of outrageous ideas), advancing technology, and plenty of rich folks to fund very good original movies. China is a potential rival to Hollywood and then a compliment. But these Chineses on this forum are so goddam thinskinned about it. That even a neutral post could be taken out as anti Fucking Asian. Whatever, their rant is way more propaganda than said a generic Hollywood film.

Also refrain from your nationalism here about enjoying a movie. But really do you want the Korean to make a Korean film that portray badly about themselves and make China look good. Like you say, the Chinese should make that version of the movie. It all about the money, which Korean will go see the one that you are making.



I agree with you here. Lower budget Chinese movies are very good. The heavy CGI films and tv are annoying. I haven't feel annoying about those Hollywood films because they show constrain. But within in 10 years, there should be improvement and have good chinese CGI films.
I don't like any of those CGI films, neither Chinese one or hollywood.
Sadly, Top 10 popular movies in Chinese market 2014 are mostly these sorts of meaningless movies, Chinese or hollywood. Good news is some Top10-20 movies are low budget Chinese one, depicting our own life and our own thinking about society, especially the Top11, 后会无期,with box office of 0.63 billion yuan(19.7 million people in the mainland).
I'm not saying people don't need those huge budget hollywood-style movie, like Zhang Yimou's Hero. But judging a country's movie industry only from those big movies which can attract westerners to theatres is insufficient. And Transformer was Top1 in China in 2014, double the audience of 后会无期.
@liubang From which sentence do you think i'm attacking you?
@liubang Just have a rest and listen to the songs I posted in #8(theme song of 后会无期,my 2014's best movie).:-)
 
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I don't like any of those CGI films, neither Chinese one or hollywood.
Sadly, Top 10 popular movies in Chinese market 2014 are mostly these sorts of meaningless movies, Chinese o hollywood. Good news is some Top10-20 movies are low budget Chinese one, depicting our own life and our own thinking about society, especially the Top11, 后会无期,with box office of 0.63 billion yuan(19.7 million people in the mainland).
I'm not saying people don't need those huge budget hollywood-style movie, like Zhang Yimou's Hero. But judging a country's movie industry only from those big movies which can attract westerners to theatres is insufficient. And Transformer was Top1 in China in 2014, double the audience of 后会无期.
@liubang From which sentence do you think i'm attacking you?


American Film Institute - AFI Awards 2014

That is my brand of sarcasm. You don't attack me and that make you stand out so so so so so much. Why didn't you compel to attack me and join the mob. You are super weird. You always show restrain. I don't think even myself have your level of integrity.

Not popularity, but what the critics are consider the best films.

Bye Jlaw (into theh ignore list), I don't need your random irrelevant comment.
 
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East Asian cinema is already much better!You can barely find a single Hollywood movie since yearly 2000 worth watching again with very rare exceptions -Hollywood=garbage.Hollywood cant get the memo-effects and highly-paid actors do not mean good movie worth watching again and again.Lately could not even managed to watch entire Jupiter Ascending.What a piece of garbage-tried but gave up midway.I am myself a great fan of South Korean movies/dramas/music from couple of years-they are much better imo than garbage produced in Hollywood.Guess China/Japan also have many good movies/dramas-no time to start watching them too.
 
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East Asian cinema is already much better!You can barely find a single Hollywood movie since yearly 2000 worth watching again with very rare exceptions -Hollywood=garbage.Hollywood cant get the memo-effects and highly-paid actors do not mean good movie worth watching again and again.Lately could not even managed to watch entire Jupiter Ascending.What a piece of garbage-tried but gave up midway.I am myself a great fan of South Korean movies/dramas/music from couple of years-they are much better imo than garbage produced in Hollywood.Guess China/Japan also have many good movies/dramas-no time to start watching them too.

Again more generalization and baseless statement.

Why don't you shift through this website. Before making such a statement. Also, many chinese on this thread seemed to have problem with Korean films.

American Film Institute - AFI Awards 2014

Look at 2000 to 2014 films.

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2012
American Film Institute Awards 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So on and so for.
 
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East Asian cinema is already much better!You can barely find a single Hollywood movie since yearly 2000 worth watching again with very rare exceptions -Hollywood=garbage.Hollywood cant get the memo-effects and highly-paid actors do not mean good movie worth watching again and again.Lately could not even managed to watch entire Jupiter Ascending.What a piece of garbage-tried but gave up midway.I am myself a great fan of South Korean movies/dramas/music from couple of years-they are much better imo than garbage produced in Hollywood.Guess China/Japan also have many good movies/dramas-no time to start watching them too.
One of the problems of East Asian movies is their stories are too local and only appeal to locals. If a Chinese movie is a little successful in US, it must be a Kungfu one,very limited topic. So I think their major concern should be domestic market, and don't intentionally make movies that will be popular in the west.
 
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watch entire Jupiter Ascending..

So you don't discuss good movies but you want to talk about some of the bottom movies of that year?

Jupiter Ascending is 5.7 on imdb, a freaking F, 25% on rottentomatoes or only 25% giving it a passable grade with at least perhaps a C and above.

For a budget of 176 million and plenty of advertising, it only gain a net of 5.8 million dollars. A near box office bomb. So if you want to have some credibility, don't start to talk about shit like Adam Sandler movies or Paul Blart: Mall cop as the best of the best.
 
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This was actually aired on Malaysian television when I was a kid during Chinese New Year. Stories like Monkey King have been retold too many times. However I think you made sweeping statement about Hollywood just because top gross/rank movies are soulless.

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One of the problems of East Asian movies is their stories are too local and only appeal to locals. If a Chinese movie is a little successful in US, it must be a Kungfu one,very limited topic. So I think their major concern should be domestic market, and don't intentionally make movies that will be popular in the west.

That is the wrong approach. The Americans are starting to making films to appeal to Chinese. They really want to tap into that 1 billion+ cash cows. That sort of movement would be good for the Chinese audience too. China can make scify and fantasy and thriller films with Asians as a main protagonist and explore those sort of genre from an Asian perspective. I don't think, the industry is quite capable yet. But I am plenty hopeful.
 
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