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Ape lu bacot tong.. can you talk like that to aceh people,or flores,ambon,bugis,maduran, melayu or papuan

Relax dude, Read your own ethnic history :enjoy:

Don't worry his time will come, I'm sure his [real] name is on some intelligence officer list of potential traitors.:partay:

Don't worry, your CIA connection soon will be revealed :D
 
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The word batik is Javanese in origin. It may either come from the Javanese word amba ('to write') and titik ('dot'), or may derive from a hypothetical Proto-Austronesian root *beCík ('to tattoo'). The word is first recorded in English in the Encyclopædia Britannica of 1880, in which it is spelled battik. It is attested in the Indonesian Archipelago during the Dutch colonial period in various forms: mbatek, mbatik, batek and batik.

Nothing words in China resemble batik
In China, it is called 蜡染
 
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@Nike @striver44
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Go complain about English language.
 
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The word batik is Javanese in origin. It may either come from the Javanese word amba ('to write') and titik ('dot'), or may derive from a hypothetical Proto-Austronesian root *beCík ('to tattoo'). The word is first recorded in English in the Encyclopædia Britannica of 1880, in which it is spelled battik. It is attested in the Indonesian Archipelago during the Dutch colonial period in various forms: mbatek, mbatik, batek and batik.

Nothing words in China resemble batik
So the colonizer made the English/Dutch word worldwide known? If the colonizer can use the word, nothing wrong other people use it. It's just a word describe a technique of wax dyeing in English.

Same thing, China is used for this below:
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Batik, an integral part of Miao culture | Shanghai Daily
Source: Shanghai Daily | 00:00 UTC+8 December 24, 2017

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The contemporary batik is more sophisticated than traditional creations. The Miao women and batik artists have begun to use new techniques, tools and wax recipes with different resist values to create more attractive batik products. — IC

FOR many people, batik, wax-resist dyeing of cloth, is merely a craft. But, for the ethnic Miao people, living in southwest China’s Guizhou Province, batik is an integral part of their ancient culture and history.

The Miao people, one of the most ancient nationalities in China, originated in the central plain areas along the Yellow River more than 5,000 years ago and began to master the batik fabric-making techniques during the early years of the Han Dynasty (220 BC-AD 202).

The Miao people even have an old folk song describing the origin of batik, which they still sing today.

The song tells a story about a beautiful young Miao girl in ancient times, who loved nature, flowers and the mountains where she and her family lived. But she didn’t like the single-colored clothes people wore back then.

She originally tried to paint some fabric to change this but failed, which made her depressed. But one day she had an epiphany after a dream. In the dream, she saw a flower fairy wearing a colorful dress coming to greet her.

The fairy took the girl into a garden where she saw all kinds of exotic flowers, birds, butterflies and bees. The bees landed on her light blue skirt and, as the girl woke up, she found some honey spots and wax on her skirt.

When the girl returned home she threw her skirt into a blue dyeing vessel to remove the stains. After two attempts the stain was gone but it took another hot wash to get rid of the beeswax. And on that third wash the beautiful flower patterns she saw in her dream appeared in place of the wax.

She was so amazed that she decided to repeat the process of waxing and dyeing on other fabrics. And this is where the legend of Miao batik was born.

Among the Miao people, batik is seen as a woman’s craft and it has been passed down from mothers to daughters for generations. The Miao women made and created batik patterns and motifs to reflect their nature and life.

Since the Miao people don’t have their own written language, those batik patterns have become an essential visual language that tells their cultural, religious and historical story to the outside world.

The process of making batik is rather elaborate. First, you need to wash a piece of white cloth or fabric in water mixed with plant ash in order to remove any lipid in them, so it becomes easier to wax and dye.

Then you would need to prepare the beeswax by melting it in a small porcelain bowl resting on hot embers.

The usual tool for applying the wax on the fabric is a homemade ladao or knife-like instrument. They are made from two triangular pieces of metal tied to a pencil-like bamboo handle with copper wires.

To create patterns or drawings on the white cloth, The Miao women scribe it on in freehand without any sketches. Furthermore they don’t use rulers or compasses to design geometric patterns, such as squares, circles, triangles or straight lines. Instead, they just fold the fabric in various ways, bundle it in whole or in parts, before dipping it in melted beeswax.

Under the influence of the Han people, the Miao women began to draw figurative and symbolic patterns such as flowers, fish, birds, insects and farm animals.

In drawing, they dip ladao in melted beeswax and use either dotted or solid lines to outline the figures.

After the wax drawing, the cloth is thrown into a dyeing jar with indigo. Widely available in the mountainous areas where the Miao people live, indigo is a color that could be dyed in cold water while most other colors, such as red and yellow, could be dyed only in hot water, in which wax would melt right away before the fabrics are dyed. That’s why most batik fabric materials are blue and white.

After dyeing, the fabrics are put into boiling hot water to remove the beeswax. Once the wax has gone, beautiful patterns will appear in places, which are covered by the wax. The fabrics are then rinsed and air-dried. The process is repeated a few times to create more complicated and subtle patterns.

Today, Miao batik fabrics are favorite souvenirs for both Chinese and overseas tourists in the country. In 2006, the technique of making the Miao people’s batik fabrics was inscribed on China’s first list of national intangible cultural heritages.

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Thread title updated Batik is found almost through out Asia in different forms & designs so it is a common craft of Asia. Lets use it for unity instead of pleasing outsiders.
 
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Miao Embroidery, Batik Artwork Lift Chinese County out of Poverty
Feb 10, 2019
CCTV Video News Agency

Miao embroidery and batik craft workshops have become a new way to protect and develop the local culture, while also helping to alleviate poverty in Jinzhi County, in southwest China's Guizhou Province
 
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Thread title updated Batik is found almost through out Asia in different forms & designs so it is a common craft of Asia. Lets use it for unity instead of pleasing outsiders.

Which outsider? Indonesia even complained and sue against Malaysian for using batik as their commercial titles, and we Will take this case further.

You should know even African Made their own batik in which can be traced back to Indonesian origin and style but still they not called it Batik but Ankara and we find it fine with them. But to use word Batik to describe what their traditional culture had it was blatant trade brand thievery at broad Daylight as Batik was synonym with high quality technique of wax-resist dyeing applied to whole cloth.

No wonder you Pakistan doesnt have awareness how to use your culture and traditional symbol as your brand value and identity to be promoted abroad, it was very regretable.
 
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@BHarwana If you are out of the loop. Here is some background.

Indonesia dresses up after batik 'victory' over Malaysia
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Wed, Sep 30, 2009
AFP

JAKARTA, Sept 30, 2009 (AFP) - Indonesia's president is pressing the country's 234 million people to wear batik clothes to celebrate a triumph over neighbour Malaysia in a poisonous feud over cultural heritage.

The UN cultural organisation UNESCO is set this week to add Indonesia's method of making the cloth - through a laborious process of wax-dipping and dying - to its list of the world's Intangible Cultural Heritage.

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has instructed Indonesians to celebrate the day the decision becomes official, Friday, by donning their best shirts, dresses, blouses and sarongs made from the material.

"I urge Indonesians wherever they are to wear batik on October 2," Yudhoyono was quoted as saying this week by state news agency Antara while in the United States for the G20 meeting of world leaders.

Yudhoyono said the country should have a "batik party" to let the world know that the artform comes from Indonesia.

Media here have been in triumphal mode over the impending UNESCO decision, which is the latest chapter in a spat that has seen protests over Malaysia's alleged "theft" of everything from batik to dances and songs.

Many Indonesians say the use of batik techniques and motifs by Malaysians is outright plagiarism.

But Indonesian Heritage Society batik expert Judi Achjadi said UNESCO's recognition of Indonesian batik doesn't mean Malaysia, which has its own tradition of making the cloth, has no right to the artform, which is spread across Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

"The focus of this achievement shouldn't be on Malaysia," Achjadi said. "They have their own batik and this doesn't stop them from promoting theirs."

UNESCO culture specialist Masanori Nagaoka said the recognition for Indonesia's cloth does not mean other countries cannot claim batik, but simply that Indonesia's government went to the trouble to submit a nomination.

The dispute between the two nations came to a head in August when it was misreported that Malaysia had screened tourism advertisements featuring the traditional "pendet" dance of Indonesia's Hindu-majority Bali island.

Outrage over the "theft" has continued to circulate in Indonesia, despite the fact that the ad in the end turned out to be a promotion for a Discovery Channel programme.

While the recognition of batik has been broadly welcomed, fashion designer Edward Hutabarat said the actual enthusiasm for Indonesians to wear the cloth has been on the wane.

"Batik clothing and couture was booming here in 2007. Everyone was wearing it at the malls all of a sudden, but it cooled down the year after," Hutabarat said.

"As cultural heritage, batik needs to be more than just a trend. "Consumers still think a six million rupiah (600 dollar) piece of batik is very expensive but it can take up to six people over a whole year to create a piece of batik."
 
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The word "Batik" is used in English texts because of the popularity of this concept. Many countries around the world use the word "Batik" when introducing their traditional culture to the Western world.

Batik in Indonesia's own understanding is an Indos-related fabric technology and their own brand.

Batik of many other countries is an international term that describes the type of technique associated with "Wax resist dyeing of fabric" and it is a traditional technique of their people, not related to Indos. Call it in their own language, but when introduced to foreigners, they don't call it by the local noun, all calling it "Batik", helping Westerners understand it.

Chinese Batik, Korean Batik, Japanese Batik, and Batik Indos are not related to each other, despite having the same Batik name in the international text.
 
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Nice title by the way @striver44 :enjoy:


@BHarwana If you are out of the loop. Here is some background.

Indonesia dresses up after batik 'victory' over Malaysia
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Wed, Sep 30, 2009
AFP

JAKARTA, Sept 30, 2009 (AFP) - Indonesia's president is pressing the country's 234 million people to wear batik clothes to celebrate a triumph over neighbour Malaysia in a poisonous feud over cultural heritage.

The UN cultural organisation UNESCO is set this week to add Indonesia's method of making the cloth - through a laborious process of wax-dipping and dying - to its list of the world's Intangible Cultural Heritage.

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has instructed Indonesians to celebrate the day the decision becomes official, Friday, by donning their best shirts, dresses, blouses and sarongs made from the material.

"I urge Indonesians wherever they are to wear batik on October 2," Yudhoyono was quoted as saying this week by state news agency Antara while in the United States for the G20 meeting of world leaders.

Yudhoyono said the country should have a "batik party" to let the world know that the artform comes from Indonesia.

Media here have been in triumphal mode over the impending UNESCO decision, which is the latest chapter in a spat that has seen protests over Malaysia's alleged "theft" of everything from batik to dances and songs.

Many Indonesians say the use of batik techniques and motifs by Malaysians is outright plagiarism.

But Indonesian Heritage Society batik expert Judi Achjadi said UNESCO's recognition of Indonesian batik doesn't mean Malaysia, which has its own tradition of making the cloth, has no right to the artform, which is spread across Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

"The focus of this achievement shouldn't be on Malaysia," Achjadi said. "They have their own batik and this doesn't stop them from promoting theirs."

UNESCO culture specialist Masanori Nagaoka said the recognition for Indonesia's cloth does not mean other countries cannot claim batik, but simply that Indonesia's government went to the trouble to submit a nomination.

The dispute between the two nations came to a head in August when it was misreported that Malaysia had screened tourism advertisements featuring the traditional "pendet" dance of Indonesia's Hindu-majority Bali island.

Outrage over the "theft" has continued to circulate in Indonesia, despite the fact that the ad in the end turned out to be a promotion for a Discovery Channel programme.

While the recognition of batik has been broadly welcomed, fashion designer Edward Hutabarat said the actual enthusiasm for Indonesians to wear the cloth has been on the wane.

"Batik clothing and couture was booming here in 2007. Everyone was wearing it at the malls all of a sudden, but it cooled down the year after," Hutabarat said.

"As cultural heritage, batik needs to be more than just a trend. "Consumers still think a six million rupiah (600 dollar) piece of batik is very expensive but it can take up to six people over a whole year to create a piece of batik."

I wonder what indonesian member in here, who always lick japanese and American, thinks about it, when they see japanese expert said like that :D



But Indonesian Heritage Society batik expert Judi Achjadi said UNESCO's recognition of Indonesian batik doesn't mean Malaysia, which has its own tradition of making the cloth, has no right to the artform, which is spread across Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

"The focus of this achievement shouldn't be on Malaysia," Achjadi said. "They have their own batik and this doesn't stop them from promoting theirs."

UNESCO culture specialist Masanori Nagaoka said the recognition for Indonesia's cloth does not mean other countries cannot claim batik

 
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@BHarwana If you are out of the loop. Here is some background.

Indonesia dresses up after batik 'victory' over Malaysia
blank.gif

Wed, Sep 30, 2009
AFP

JAKARTA, Sept 30, 2009 (AFP) - Indonesia's president is pressing the country's 234 million people to wear batik clothes to celebrate a triumph over neighbour Malaysia in a poisonous feud over cultural heritage.

The UN cultural organisation UNESCO is set this week to add Indonesia's method of making the cloth - through a laborious process of wax-dipping and dying - to its list of the world's Intangible Cultural Heritage.

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has instructed Indonesians to celebrate the day the decision becomes official, Friday, by donning their best shirts, dresses, blouses and sarongs made from the material.

"I urge Indonesians wherever they are to wear batik on October 2," Yudhoyono was quoted as saying this week by state news agency Antara while in the United States for the G20 meeting of world leaders.

Yudhoyono said the country should have a "batik party" to let the world know that the artform comes from Indonesia.

Media here have been in triumphal mode over the impending UNESCO decision, which is the latest chapter in a spat that has seen protests over Malaysia's alleged "theft" of everything from batik to dances and songs.

Many Indonesians say the use of batik techniques and motifs by Malaysians is outright plagiarism.

But Indonesian Heritage Society batik expert Judi Achjadi said UNESCO's recognition of Indonesian batik doesn't mean Malaysia, which has its own tradition of making the cloth, has no right to the artform, which is spread across Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

"The focus of this achievement shouldn't be on Malaysia," Achjadi said. "They have their own batik and this doesn't stop them from promoting theirs."

UNESCO culture specialist Masanori Nagaoka said the recognition for Indonesia's cloth does not mean other countries cannot claim batik, but simply that Indonesia's government went to the trouble to submit a nomination.

The dispute between the two nations came to a head in August when it was misreported that Malaysia had screened tourism advertisements featuring the traditional "pendet" dance of Indonesia's Hindu-majority Bali island.

Outrage over the "theft" has continued to circulate in Indonesia, despite the fact that the ad in the end turned out to be a promotion for a Discovery Channel programme.

While the recognition of batik has been broadly welcomed, fashion designer Edward Hutabarat said the actual enthusiasm for Indonesians to wear the cloth has been on the wane.

"Batik clothing and couture was booming here in 2007. Everyone was wearing it at the malls all of a sudden, but it cooled down the year after," Hutabarat said.

"As cultural heritage, batik needs to be more than just a trend. "Consumers still think a six million rupiah (600 dollar) piece of batik is very expensive but it can take up to six people over a whole year to create a piece of batik."

Why did you bold that statement ?, it is not true that Malaysian can claim Batik since Batik is originated in Java from Javanese. It is a simple logic.

Malaysian has similar roots like people living in Sumatra like me. Sumatran people dont have Batik culture. I know it. If there is Malaysian batik, it must be coming from Javanese who become Malaysian and they are many there. They cannot claim Batik as them, similar like Indonesia cannot claim Chinese culture as ours despite there are Chinese Indonesian spreading the culture here.

The use of Batik on Friday also dont have anything to do with the victory. We just want to popularize here. So instead of using Western style dress during working in office, we want to use Batik as well as formal dress for working. Batik usually only use during special event like wedding and celebration.

Batik is originated from Java, Indonesia, and every body should acknowledge it and if Malaysia want to have their own Batik, I also support it but claiming Batik as originated from Malaysia is really weird.
 
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