ASEAN backs down: Ministers reverse on South China Sea

[Viet]

Heh, you'd be doing the same thing if you had any power to begin with. Unfortunately for your kind, you will always just be a chess piece, not a player. Funny how you talk about aggression when it wasn't that far long ago you occupied Cambodia.

I support whatever means to further China's national interest. If it comes at your expense, then so be it.

If you hadn't manipulated the Khmer, instigating them to attack Vietnam, if you did not have exported Chinese success model as genocide to Cambodia, we wouldn't care of.

As for your supporting China interest, don't overstate your own importance, because you are just a cheap clown.

 

[ahojunk]

Not all western journalist are bad. There is a small handful of decent ones...

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Ben Reynolds：The New York Times is wrong about the South China Sea
(People's Daily Online) 09:52, June 17, 2016

In an recent article wrote for China-US Focus.com titled “The New York Times is Wrong about the South China Sea”, U.S. writer and Foreign Policy analyst Ben Reynolds pointed out that one editorial of the New York Times “echoes a number of mistaken arguments that are popular with American policymakers”, and hoped that the New York Times could be more “thorough and careful with the facts” in future pieces, instead of selling the American public on yet “another disastrous foreign intervention”.

“Most significantly, the Times lends credence to arguments that dramatically inflate the threat that China poses to the region and the United States,” he wrote, “this editorial demonstrates the difficulties that face American advocates for peace in a media environment dominated by uncritical support for U.S. foreign policy”.

Reynolds argued that the editorial has misconstrued key points about international norms in the South China Sea and in Asia as a whole. For example, the“freedom of navigation” being asserted by U.S. is for U.S. military vessels, not oil tankers. Needless to say China never poses a threat to the trade in this area.

He stressed that the newspaper has demonstrated different attitudes towards China and Vietnam on the construction activities in the South China Sea. To China, the project is “aggressive and outrageous tactic”; but to Vietnam, U.S. ally, the ongoing military outposts construction just being on-purposely ignored.

“Misleading the American people about U.S.-China rivalry in the South China Sea with omissions and half-truths is the job of the Defense Department, not the press”, he mocked. “Until major American press outlets reorient their outlook on U.S. foreign policy toward China, it will remain our responsibility to correct dangerous and mistaken ideas that can only contribute to hostility between the American and Chinese peoples”.

(People's Daily)

 

[beijingwalker]

That's really delusional, you have no actual allies at all.

 

[Emperor_of_Mankind]

My god talk about delusional really most of the people who are supporting our arbitration case are economic powerhouse so again china is other country its not great lose for us plus the nation you arrogant SOB piss man we have more allies now so thank you you arrogant SOBs

Your allies won't go to war against China for your false claims, thief. Any sanctions against China would hurt Europe more than it will hurt China. Every European country is kissing Chinese feet as indicted by their response to the Chinese AIIB.

 

[3Kingdoms]

So many fake Han Chinese on this forum.
China wants to transfer wealth east and secure its energy security complex, this will be good for Asia, and understandably a concern that ASEAN nations will be under Chinese influence, would it be really be any different than under US influence as now? History says no, but history is past.
Why would China antagonize its Asian neighbours? ASEAN is an important market economy for Chinese music, media, literature, the threshold of ever increasing Chinese soft power. I sleep easy if China became hegemony.

 

[BoQ77]

Heh keep dreaming. Malaysia has clearly steered away from getting into the dispute so far. Even the original statement did not mention any name to avoid offending any party involved. The fact that the joint statement was retracted demonstrate how little influence Vietnam has. ASEAN cannot save you.

The few cannot content with the many. The weak cannot content with the strong. Learn your historical lesson boy.

Our history told us the strong failed to conquer our country not only once. Lol for your saying about influence in joint statement.

 

[CCP]

Our history told us the strong failed to conquer our country not only once. Lol for your saying about influence in joint statement.

LOL, vietvam under direct Chinese rule for more than 1000 years and most of the rest time were severed as a vassal state of China.

Even your country name is made in China.

PS. Every country have their weak days during their history. The difference is that China was the NO.1 world power in most of time.

 

[TaiShang]

Mr Wang later said: “The differences between China and The Philippines are well-known to all, but this isn’t an issue between China and ASEAN.

Very smart, indeed. Separate China-PH discord from China-ASEAN relations.

After all, PH is being encouraged and used by the US both financially and politically. Their entire legal team is fed and bribed by the US.

PH actions cannot be representative of ASEAN.


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Xi Visits Chinese-invested Steel Plant in Serbia
2016-06-20

Chinese President Xi Jinping visited a Chinese-invested steel plant and interacted with its workers on Sunday.

Accompanied by Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic and Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic, Xi took a tour of Zelezara Smederevo, Serbia's sole steel mill, on the last day of his three-day state visit to the Balkan country.

At the plant, the Chinese president delivered a speech hailing the profound traditional friendship between the two countries and Serbia's successful experience in economic development which China had drawn on in the early days of its reform and opening-up.

"Now Chinese and Serbian businesses have joined hands to usher in new chapters in industrial capacity cooperation between our two countries," Xi said.

"This has not only carried forward our traditional friendship, but also demonstrated our resolve to deepen reform and achieve win-win results," he said.

The Smederevo steel mill, founded in 1913, experienced difficulties and was acquired by China's HeSteel Group (HBIS) for 46 million euros (51.6 million U.S. dollars) in April this year.

The Chinese steel group plans to invest at least 300 million euros (337.6 million dollars) and turn it into one of the most competitive steel mills in Europe. The Chinese company employed all the 5,000 or so workers of the plant.

"I believe that with the close cooperation of the two sides, the Smederevo steel mill will surely be revitalized and play a positive role in creating jobs, improving people's lives and helping Serbian economic development," the Chinese president said.

He said that China looks forward to having more major cooperation projects with Serbia and bringing greater benefits to both peoples.

Serbian President Nikolic and Prime Minister Vucic said in their speeches that the Serbia-China cooperation has enabled the Smederevo steel mill to turn a new page and that it will usher in further bilateral cooperation.

The leaders of the two countries also toured the workshops of the steel mill. Xi went to the dining room to interact with workers of the plant, encouraging them to work hard to bring benefits to local residents.

"We are expecting to resume full production and achieve two million tons production by the end of this year. All of our workers are excited and appreciate China HeSteel's efforts," Vlavan Mihailovic, chief operation officer of the plant, told Xinhua.

"We are very excited about President Xi's visit and are confident about a bright future with HeSteel Group," he said.

China and Serbia have strengthened cooperation in infrastructure and investment in recent years.

Besides the Smederevo steel mill, the two countries have worked together on major projects like the Belgrade-Budapest Railway, the Mihajlo Pupin Bridge, the E763 Motorway, and the expansion and upgrading of Kostolac Power Plant.

During Xi's visit to Serbia, the first by a Chinese head of state in 32 years, China and Serbia upgraded their ties to a comprehensive strategic partnership and signed cooperation deals covering industrial capacity, finance, infrastructure, trade, energy, telecommunications, science and technology, culture and tourism.

Before visiting the steel mill, Xi went to a local park to lay a wreath at a monument to unknown heroes of Serbia. After that, he attended a luncheon hosted by the Serbian president and the prime minister.

The Chinese president left Serbia for Poland on Sunday afternoon. He will then travel to Uzbekistan, where he will attend a summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

 

[Beast]

Wealth is the most powerful thing , beating military or cultural export BS...
China has the wealth.

 

[BoQ77]

Wealth is the most powerful thing , beating military or cultural export BS...
China has the wealth.

China deepen in giant debts.

 

[ahojunk]

Wealth is the most powerful thing , beating military or cultural export BS...
China has the wealth.

.
Having a very big wallet is helpful.

Money talks, bullsh*t walks.



Everything starts with money. With it, you can make things happen.

Without it, sooner or later your military strength and cultural influence will wane over time.

 

[Jlaw]

China should follow a three tier strategy when it comes to dealing with ASEAN members.

1. Keep Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and Myanmar on the friendly side as they are not parties to the dispute.
2. Maintain neutrality with Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia through negotiation and limited concession
3. Isolate and target Philippines and Vietnam with hard-line stance.

Another 10 to 15 years, and South China Sea will become China Lake as our economic and military power grow.

I prefer the American way of divide and conquer. Make the other SEA countries fight among themselves.

Wealth is the most powerful thing , beating military or cultural export BS...
China has the wealth.

Money+strength+knowledge= true power

I borrowed the last two from Master Jiang and the Six kingdoms

 

[TaiShang]

I prefer the American way of divide and conquer. Make the other SEA countries fight among themselves.

ASEAN is an already not so united place. They are an economic community, that's an achievement and ASEAN+1 and +3 are meaningful organizations.

But, they should stay that way, an economic community. Because, Cold War mentality still lingers in the region.

 

[Zero_wing]

Your allies won't go to war against China for your false claims, thief. Any sanctions against China would hurt Europe more than it will hurt China. Every European country is kissing Chinese feet as indicted by their response to the Chinese AIIB.

Wow did i say anything about a war sorry you're in the wrong page was taking about case camp and lastly in large scale war china can never win why? simply it's navy not impar with the US or Russia surpass those guys ya sure but not if a few years and lastly MDT is still in effect so go ahead fire on us and thank you and false claims? that's rich from a nation of cowards who can't even do anything without being a baby about it and acting like spoiled child taking stuff and hahaha you chicom trolls are full ta3 really man can't even join us ITCLOS to prove your claims and now paying off people who do need the money but way you're messing up people's EZZs and arrogantly using your strong forces to beat up the other weak kids why weak yours to fight other giants let me just say this have you seen how pack of wolf pack take down a bear? Or lions take down a elephant.

 

[cochine]

LOL, vietvam under direct Chinese rule for more than 1000 years and most of the rest time were severed as a vassal state of China.

Even your country name is made in China.

PS. Every country have their weak days during their history. The difference is that China was the NO.1 world power in most of time.

after 1000 year rebellings and fightings, Han Chinese invaders had to go home.