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As gunfight continues in Keran, pressure mounts on army to do a Kargil

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dna at LoC: As gunfight continues in Keran, pressure mounts on army to do a Kargil - India - DNA

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The road to the battle zone is desolate and littered with rocks and boulders with hardly any sign of human life. Columns of army trucks carrying heavily-armed soldiers to the Shala Bhata break the eerie calm. Several kilometers up on the mountains, a nerve-racking situation prevails with the army preparing for a kill to cleanse the area off infiltrators.

Brigade-size troops backed by fresh reinforcements of special forces are now eyeball to eyeball with 30 to 40 well-entrenched Pakistani militants and special troops, who are receiving regular supplies from across the Line of Control to sustain and take on the might of the Indian Army.

For the past 11 days, the army’s response has been calibrated. Given the topography of the area, possible danger is lurking behind the boulders, pine trees and thick vegetation where the militants have taken cover.

Shala Bhata, a ghost village termed as barbad gam (destroyed hamlet) by the locals, has suddenly flashed on the security radar of the army. Nestled in the mighty mountains, Shala Bhata, once a peaceful hamlet housing not more than 50 families, is now a hotly contested piece of land. The villagers had migrated to Pakistan during the early nineties as the area became the favorite infiltration route for militants.

The village extends to the other side of the LoC, which the locals call Pak Shala. Locals say Pak Shala houses Pakistan army posts with little presence of civilians. That explains the supply chain to the infiltrators at Shala Bhata.

Sources said the infiltrators and the army are exchanging heavy volume of gunfire at Lodder Post. “The militants and the army have been fighting intense battle near this post for the last so many days,” said a soldier who returned from the war zone.

Along with thousands of troops that have been mobilized, the local units serving in the hinterland too have been directed to spare some of their men to augment the forces. Top army commanders have moved from their offices in Kupwara district to command the operations.

Since the face-off started, the army has restricted the movement of the people living close to the LoC. “We have been asked not to venture out of our homes after dusk. The bakerwals (shepherds) have also been asked to restrict their movement,” said Bashir Ahmad Khawaja, a local resident, here.

Meanwhile, the Pakistani army opened another front in the same sector by pushing in more militants. However, alert troops foiled their attempts.

A defence spokesman said the militants have suffered heavy losses in the operations in Keran sector. Five soldiers have also sustained injuries.

“The terrain in the area of operation is rugged, forested and high altitude with heights varying between 9000 to 10,000 feet, which necessitated deliberate operations to ensure minimal casualty to own

troops and at the same time flush out remaining surviving militants. The entire area has been effectively cordoned off by the army, thereby pinning down the militants within the cordon,” the spokesman said.

As tense stand-off continues, pressure is mounting on the Indian Army to do a Kargil (evict Pakistan backed-infiltrators and special troops like the troops did in 1999). “The intermittent firing is going on. The operation against the ultras is continuing” said Naresh Vij, defence spokesman at Srinagar.

Pak army opens another front

Pakistan army on Friday opened another front in Keran sector when it tried to push in a group of militants from the adjacent Gujjurtur area. However, troops foiled their attempts and killed three of them in the early hours of Friday. “Three militants were eliminated. Two dead bodies have been recovered along with three AK 47 rifles, four pistols, one Yeasu radio set. The body of third terrorist is lying just across the LoC along Kilpara Nar,” a defence spokesman said.
 
I wonder why we are having a 'calibrated' response? We should have got our mountain arty and blasted the sh!t out of them. After all it's in our own area. Or better still, we should have got a battery of 155mm Bofors - the Kargil killers - and smacked them to smithereens! I don't know the reason for this hesitation? Why the kid gloves?

I think we need to change our tactics and apply full force to smash these groups of terrorists being infiltrated across. That's the only way to teach them a lesson.
 
I can't understand that how come terrorists have been cordened off and at same time they are receiving replinishments from across the border.
 
I can't understand that how come terrorists have been cordened off and at same time they are receiving replinishments from across the border.

Any graphical map of that area ??

They are trapped between the LOC and the fence on the Indian side (which is about 500 meters into the Indian side)
 
They are trapped between the LOC and the fence on the Indian side (which is about 500 meters into the Indian side)

Right, so why can't our forces cut off their replenishment route? Encircle them, since they are within our territory? The region between the LoC and the fence is also ours, isn't it?

As to why we are not blowing the place to smithereens, maybe they want to retrieve a few bodies and their weapons for identification, to ascertain state origins for the "non-state-actors".
 
They are trapped between the LOC and the fence on the Indian side (which is about 500 meters into the Indian side)
Yes I saw the graphical map.

They can always take the same route to escape from which they are getting their replinishments. Why don't army cut their link to LoC first ??
 
Yes I saw the graphical map.

They can always take the same route to escape from which they are getting their replinishments. Why don't army cut their link to LoC first ??

Because they are virtually at the LOC. To get behind them, IA will need to cross LOC
 
Because they are virtually at the LOC. To get behind them, IA will need to cross LOC

No, IA can just mop along LOC to delink them from Pakistan.

I wonder why we are having a 'calibrated' response? We should have got our mountain arty and blasted the sh!t out of them. After all it's in our own area. Or better still, we should have got a battery of 155mm Bofors - the Kargil killers - and smacked them to smithereens! I don't know the reason for this hesitation? Why the kid gloves?

I think we need to change our tactics and apply full force to smash these groups of terrorists being infiltrated across. That's the only way to teach them a lesson.

Don't you think Boforce will be overkill for 700*400 mt area, last day I heard operation was going in on 6 sq km area, now IA has zeroed in on target to great extent, just need to cut their link with LOC and let loose special forces on them.
 
No, IA can just mop along LOC to delink them from Pakistan.

The terrain is very difficult, the Pakistanis didn't pick that spot without reason. There will be heavy casualties if there is a rushed move to evict. The Pakistanis will probably withdraw because the media attention has guaranteed an escalation but the tepid Indian response will only invite more trouble. Much heavier firepower should have been used & there should have been retaliation all across the LoC. If the message is weak and this was, it will be understood to be a sign of weakness.
 
Yes I saw the graphical map.

They can always take the same route to escape from which they are getting their replinishments. Why don't army cut their link to LoC first ??

Saw an interview from the Chief of the army yesterday - The Pakistani posts are nearby. Maybe that is proving as a deterrent as they might try using their artillery.
 
IMO army must neutralise the support lines from other side of the border by shelling before any rapid action.
 
The terrain is very difficult, the Pakistanis didn't pick that spot without reason. There will be heavy casualties if there is a rushed move to evict. The Pakistanis will probably withdraw because the media attention has guaranteed an escalation but the tepid Indian response will only invite more trouble. Much heavier firepower should have been used & there should have been retaliation all across the LoC. If the message is weak and this was, it will be understood to be a sign of weakness.


Yes this lukewarm response from India may invite more trouble before November end, we should have used higher caliber fire power.

Saw an interview from the Chief of the army yesterday - The Pakistani posts are nearby. Maybe that is proving as a deterrent as they might try using their artillery.

Using artillery? That would be akin act of war, Pakistan isn't that fool.
 
But that is what has been going on across the LOC right for the past few months.

You are mistaken buddy, artillery fire have not been used in last decade, cite me a source to substantiate your point.
 
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