Arooj Rahman (expat origin) arrested for throwing molotov cocktails at police cars.

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I know the afghans is a sore issue for you hence you bring it up again. You might live in the West but the USA and UK pakistani community experiences are not the same. As I said to the other poster just check out the muslim women sucicide rate for UK which is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the issues british Muslim women face.

Sorry sister, but by abusing people who disagree with you using labels and insults you are not proving anything.

Anyway, please continue to pretend I do not exist. I have no interest in responding to your negativity anymore.

 

[El Sidd]

Do you have a link to those suicide rates?

probably from some 5th gen Indian warfare websites

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The only support for girls and women in our community is various charities that asian women have set up to help girls escape forced marriages. Because it's become such a serious issue the government has set up a forced marriage unit to retrieve girls from pakistan if they are taken by force. Apart from that really I am not aware of any other platforms to raise such issue within our community that need to be raised.

One of the main obstacles is that a lot of men in our community really don't because it does not really impact them directly. My father has in the past tried raising such issues only to be shunned.

Well, for whatever little it's worth, this forum will have no problems with allowing you to discuss such issues.

If you or someone you know is interested in setting up something on this platform to offer advice etc anonymously, I can discuss it with the admins and see what we can do.

 

[El Sidd]

Just Google sucicide rate for muslim women and you can read the various articles yourself.

its all mafia. conspiracy against his Pakistani race.

Sorry sister, but by abusing people who disagree with you using labels and insults you are not proving anything.

Anyway, please continue to pretend I do not exist. I have no interest in responding to your negativity anymore.

Why can't you let women breathe?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

if you stop killing them for honor, the rate will be double in Pakistan.

its all mafia. conspiracy against his Pakistani race.

You continue to surprise me El Sidd.

Just when I think I have you pegged down, you make comments such as these ...

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Just Google sucicide rate for muslim women and you can read the various articles yourself.

I have. There are several which don't allude to nor confirm your assertions. Could you be more specific and post the ones which actually confirm and prove your claims?

 

[El Sidd]

You continue to surprise me El Sidd.

Just when I think I have you pegged down, you make comments such as these ...

why do you want to peg me down? dude i did not steal your bhensen

 

[Moonlight]

You are right about hazrat umar r.a here in the UK it's been like this since the first pakistani men arrived in the UK according to my late grandfather. If someone did a independent survey of the british pak community they would find a astounding number of single women who simply can't get married because Muslim men prefer to commit zina with white women and later go to pakistan to get a virgin wife.

Most second and third generation muslim women don't wish to marry from abroad hence the large amount of single women. Many of my school friends were taken out of school unable to complete there education and forcefully married off in pakistan they were all under age 16.

It won't surprise you that those marriages ended in divorce and many of the girls are now life long user's of anti depressants due to what they have suffered. Many girls who wish to avoid such a fate end up running away.

Actually the problems lies within the mindset of Pakistani parents in western countries. They still carrying this belief “bigar jayen gi” hence, they forced them into forced marriages. But the trend is changing, at least in US it is changing. Parents have understood, it depends on the parenting a lot and if the parenting is done right, no they don’t get spoiled and understand their values and beliefs.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

why do you want to peg me down? dude i did not steal your bhensen

Yes, but if I peg you down then I'll know for sure that you can't!

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I have. There are several which don't allude to nor confirm your assertions. Could you be more specific and post the ones which actually confirm and prove your claims?

Depression is a real issue among divorced women or ones who have cut off from their parents. However suicide is still relatively rare among Pakistanis due to the fiqh behind it, it earns a Muslim instant Jahannum.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

When this corona saga is over, start running 3 times a week. (alternate days)

In summer, Start with 1 mile each day. Then take it to 2 miles. Then 3 miles.

In winter, try to increase a mile or 2 more. Don't go more than 5 miles.

Within a year, you'll be quite alright.

Ghanta!

- PRTP GWD

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Actually the problems lies within the mindset of Pakistani parents in western countries. They still carrying this belief “bigar jayen gi” hence, they forced them into forced marriages. But the trend is changing, at least in US it is changing. Parents have understood, it depends on the parenting a lot and if the parenting is done right, no they don’t get spoiled and understand their values and beliefs.

Exactly, forced marriages are haram. The prophet Muhammad saws himself ended such marriages immediately when he was made aware of it.

The woman is required to have a say. If parents commit this sin, yes, they should be held accountable and punished to dissuade this behavior.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

However suicide is still relatively rare among Pakistanis due to the fiqh behind it, it earns a Muslim instant Jahannum.

If you believe that clinical depression is a mental health disorder that can't just be resolved with 'meditation and thinking positively', then you have to account for patients with the most severe cases taking their lives.

Someone close to me committed suicide - she was a beautiful woman, brilliant student, triathlete who won competitions, full ride scholarship, graduated honors with a bachelors in Chemistry from a prestigious school and was working on her Masters. Struggled with depression most of her life and one day shot herself.

I refuse to accept that she's going to hell for something she tried her best to control but simply couldn't.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

If you believe that clinical depression is a mental health disorder that can't just be resolved with 'meditation and thinking positively', then you have to account for patients with the most severe cases taking their lives.

Someone close to me committed suicide - she was a beautiful woman, brilliant student, triathlete who won competitions, graduated with a bachelors in Chemistry from a prestigious school and was working on her Masters. Struggled with depression most of her life and one day shot herself.

I refuse to accept that she's going to hell for something she tried her best to control but simply couldn't.

Allahu alim brother. I am just referring to general cases.

 

[Ladyuk]

Well, for whatever little it's worth, this forum will have no problems with allowing you to discuss such issues.

If you or someone you know is interested in setting up something on this platform to offer advice etc anonymously, I can discuss it with the admins and see what we can do.

Thank you I shall bear that in mind.

Actually the problems lies within the mindset of Pakistani parents in western countries. They still carrying this belief “bigar jayen gi” hence, they forced them into forced marriages. But the trend is changing, at least in US it is changing. Parents have understood, it depends on the parenting a lot and if the parenting is done right, no they don’t get spoiled and understand their values and beliefs.

I'm glad that's it changing in the USA here in the UK there has been some change but it has come mainly from the government making stronger immigration rules such as if you wish to get a spouse from abroad you have to be earning a certain amount . This has led to more british pak men marrying in the UK but girls from our community running away is still a issue as is forced marriage and domestic violence.

I do agree it's to do with parenting if parents treated their sons and daughters equally and held their sons to the same standard as they hold their daughters most of the social issues that effect our community here in the UK wouldn't exist.