Army's 'Cold Start' doctrine gets teeth

[nomi007]

India's Cold Start Doctrine is like the cat's dream
if Indian fire a single missile on Pakistan nuclear war will be start

 

[Vibs]

india has huge range of offensive weapons..such short range blastic missles have only one purpose to target a huge moving infantary vechiles with a small tactical nuke small enough not to enrage nuclear war especially if its used ON YOUR OWN SOIL

its too expensive to be operated fro classical non nuclear style..they are many much cheaper ways to target an enemy..e.g through stand off glide bombs of airforce..
india would have needed it if it had not a power air force and was afraid a nation might invade it..
it could be possible answer to risk for a chinese war..but for pakistan any logical person would agree it changes nothing..

This missile cannot be used for carrying nuclear war heads. It can carry a maximum of a 100kg of warhead. A nuclear warhead would be about 5000kg and upwards. This system allows multiple missiles to be fired at multiple targets simultaneously and also allows the type of war head to change. Tactically it is extremely versatile. Imagine this in the context of a war like Kargil. When enemy bunkers are well beyond sight,the earlier options were LGB's by the IAF. This is now an option. Also a missile that can lay a minefield in enemy territory is a very potent weapon.

 

[Vibs]

well it doesnt matter whether its in what range its still an expensive method to hit an enmey when you have plateforms..
pakistan already has abdali with 150-180km and ghaznvi with 250-290km and nasr with 60-100km as well as htf-1 with 100 km range

the thing about nasr was its ability to be launched from 8x8 TEL vechile or in Pakistan army a samll truck with 2X2 laucher..easily lauched quickly..
purpose is to over come limited strike ability by using either conventional or less than 1kt of tnt yield nuclear weapons with blast radius of less than 500 meters and very little radiations fall out

I'm not arguing the capabilities of Nasr. It is incredibly potent. One of the comments made regarding this was that Nasr has a range of around 60-80 Kms. In case of a first strike by Nasr, it's launch location could be identified and targeted by Prahaar. The purpose of Cold doctrine is to identify offensive enemy targets and eliminate them quickly before capturing and hunkering down in the captured location.Prahaar allows the IA to target potential Nasr launch locations and PAF bases allowing a number of offensive and defensive options to the corps.

 

[OrionHunter]

This missile cannot be used for carrying nuclear war heads. It can carry a maximum of a 100kg of warhead. A nuclear warhead would be about 5000kg and upwards.

Not quite correct! You may not have heard of nuclear artillery, ie guns firing nuclear shells like the American M110 howitzer delivering 203mm W33 nuclear shells and the M109 self-propelled and M114 towed howitzers delivering 155mm W48 nuclear weapons.

The first artillery shell ever fired was way back in 1953 by the US of A. The shell was 4.5 ft long and weighed 365 kg with an estimated yield of 15 kt. The W48 weighed just 58 kg and yields an explosive force of .1 kt

So, a Prahaar having a nuke warhead is no big deal.

 

[karan.1970]

this cold start imo is just for show and not for use when your political leaders have no spines you might as well put the cold start into cold storage

What would you rather have.. ?? Leaders with spine like Musharaf and Zia who take bold military decisions like Afghanistan and Kargil and end up with problems like extremism and international condemnation or leaders with brain that ensure your country grows steadily at 9% or so economically avoiding any major escalations that could endanger that..??

Think about it

 

[misterme2]

Stupid plan...we are still thinking of projecting this plan without the ample use of Airforce. Total Failure. Pak will lob mini nuke and all the capable soldiers will immediately or soon after. Then they will pin the blame on India because our media sucks and has no ability to get the word out.

 

[tvsram1992]

Stupid plan...we are still thinking of projecting this plan without the ample use of Airforce. Total Failure. Pak will lob mini nuke and all the capable soldiers will immediately or soon after. Then they will pin the blame on India because our media sucks and has no ability to get the word out.

There would be no pakistan to do another attack then

 

[ziaulislam]

nuclear war head can be consituted in as low as 50 kg using plutonium enhanced by tritium...list is too long for sub 100 kg nuclear weapons..
they have merly few kg of plutonium and few grams tritium.

 

[ziaulislam]

There would be no pakistan to do another attack then

htere is NO "NO" in nuclear warfare..both countries would definetlhave a second strike capabilites..as i think both are going to/in process to arm their submarines with nukes

if pakistan uses a subkiloton nuclear device on its own soil against incoming infantary india would not have any reason to go for full scale war..even if it does result will be clear out for both of us..

 

[tvsram1992]

htere is NO "NO" in nuclear warfare..both countries would definetlhave a second strike capabilites..as i think both are going to/in process to arm their submarines with nukes

if pakistan uses a subkiloton nuclear device on its own soil against incoming infantary india would not have any reason to go for full scale war..even if it does result will be clear out for both of us..

No offense friend, but the fact is if at all a nuke war is occured,
for a sqmt of pakistan 0.25 sqmts of Indian territory is lost.
Provided India uses aircrafts by exploding high yield devices(pakistans aircrafts will have more threat than indian ones and india has many aircrafts) , the damage will be more to pakistan.
But since the population density is high in India the no. of deaths may increase but the percentage will be less when compared to pakistan.
If 50 % of pakistan is bashed, 20% of India will be gone.
Same way 50% of India is gone means 35% of china will be gone.
(If US enters with a threat probability if china nukes India, Most of China would lose.).
No offense .

 

[Dharmachakra]

htere is NO "NO" in nuclear warfare..both countries would definetlhave a second strike capabilites..as i think both are going to/in process to arm their submarines with nukes

if pakistan uses a subkiloton nuclear device on its own soil against incoming infantary india would not have any reason to go for full scale war..even if it does result will be clear out for both of us..

Maybe you should go through the Indian nuclear doctrine once. IT also includes any nuclear action against its slodiers and C4I,aircraft carrier,....... irrespective of their location.

It would be too inappropriate to consider that,We India sends its troops inside pakistan and let them die under a nuclear seige?

If the secondary option is to be considered ,which is a failure of cold start( leading to a nuclear war) and taking the first hit from the enemy(in this case pakistan),then Indian NFU also suggests a complete annihilation of the enemy using its own nuclear bumbs. This is why everyone stresses about credible deterrent.{ Obviously its upto the enemy to guesstimate how really credible these Indian warheads are....... IT also puts us in a situation Plus where enemy lacks understanding of our nukes....} But we ourself know the recent developments.

 

[tvsram1992]

India's Cold Start Doctrine is like the cat's dream
if Indian fire a single missile on Pakistan nuclear war will be start

Ha ha that says how scared you are .
Dont worry if at all India want to fire a nuke missile , it would be in tens.
I think IAF will take down targets than using missiles.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

What would you rather have.. ?? Leaders with spine like Musharaf and Zia who take bold military decisions like Afghanistan and Kargil and end up with problems like extremism and international condemnation or leaders with brain that ensure your country grows steadily at 9% or so economically avoiding any major escalations that could endanger that..??

Think about it

so having your people being attacked by terrorists working for another enemy state is alright then? Indian politicians need to grow some balls and use its commandos to kill terrorists in enemy territory like USA and Israel does

 

[LiberalAtheist]

India's Cold Start Doctrine is like the cat's dream
if Indian fire a single missile on Pakistan nuclear war will be start

India would never use nukes first, we have no first use policy if anyone will start a nuclear war between the two it will be started by Pakistan

 

[misterme2]

There would be no pakistan to do another attack then

Im a sure but they will give you a long list that MOD will take yrs to understand and reply. The list will state non state actors denotated the min nuke that they stold allegedly from the their lab. You know how they will lie till they are exposed with hard facts that cannot be denied.