Army Major, soldier killed in blast in J&K Nowshera

[Chhatrapati]

RIP

 

[Darwin]

What makes you think it isn't a coincidence?

What i mean is the pK army hides its massive casualties on the LOC under "women" killed on LOC and soldiers killed in baluchistan.
You must remember it took pak army 8 years to acknowledge that around 500 pak army men were killed in kargil. Though as per nawaz shariff the figure was around 3000.
So hiding 10 - 20 army deaths per month on LOC is child's play for them.

 

[faithfulguy]

India’s terrorist policies are killing its own soldiers. It need to grant freedom to people of Kashmir and revert back to many pieces to free its people.

 

[Cuirassier]

What i mean is the pK army hides its massive casualties on the LOC under "women" killed on LOC and soldiers killed in baluchistan.
You must remember it took pak army 8 years to acknowledge that around 500 pak army men were killed in kargil. Though as per nawaz shariff the figure was around 3000.
So hiding 10 - 20 army deaths per month on LOC is child's play for them.

Morarji Desai also said India lost 5000 men in guerrilla warfare in East Pakistan before the actual invasion, would you believe him?

Indian casualties are higher despite claims of Pakistan hiding casualties, which is true but in one or two incidents with single deaths. For example in 2018 9 Pak SF were reported dead, but there were 2 more unreported. In comparison, 47 Indian SF have been killed on LoC/WB, in both Pak fire and militant fire.

 

[Darwin]

Morarji Desai also said India lost 5000 men in guerrilla warfare in East Pakistan before the actual invasion, would you believe him?

Indian casualties are higher despite claims of Pakistan hiding casualties, which is true but in one or two incidents with single deaths. For example in 2018 9 Pak SF were reported dead, but there were 2 more unreported. In comparison, 47 Indian SF have been killed on LoC/WB, in both Pak fire and militant fire.

OK. U win.

 

[Mighty Lion]

Morarji Desai also said India lost 5000 men in guerrilla warfare in East Pakistan before the actual invasion, would you believe him?

Indian casualties are higher despite claims of Pakistan hiding casualties, which is true but in one or two incidents with single deaths. For example in 2018 9 Pak SF were reported dead, but there were 2 more unreported. In comparison, 47 Indian SF have been killed on LoC/WB, in both Pak fire and militant fire.

Not at all.
Last year your defence ministry reported total of 87 killed in cross firing both military and civilian at the same ISPR said 53 civilians along LoC & IB in 2017 which means Pak military casualties along LoC in 2017 were 34.
This means ISPR did not report 22 casualties to public.

India committed 1881 ceasefire violations last year — the highest number of breaches since the 2003 ceasefire understanding. Those violations left 87 people martyred on the Pakistani side. The casualties included both civilian and military.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1383209/proposal-for-meeting-of-pak-india-dgmos-under-study

ISPR does not even report names of soldiers who are set to recieve gallantry awards until many months later so forget about them reporting about soldiers who wont recieve gallantry awards

In 2018 GHQ ceremony showed that there were four casualties on 18 Oct, 8 Nov, 19 Nov, 23 Nov (Kel) 2016 something which ISPR or Pakistan media did not report in 2016. The only reason they got mentioned 18 months later was because they won awards which means many who did not get awards in that ceremony are yet to be mentioned.

Pakistan does not even report IED attacks across LoC conducted by India

Pakistan does not also report about Indian BAT attacks to public although it did lodge complains with UNMOGIP
https://www.dawn.com/news/782394

@Darwin

Even few months back on 29th August 2018
PTI Senator Samina Saeed asked Pakistan's new Defence Minister Pervez Khattak details about number of cross LoC firing and Pakistani army and civilian casualties due to it. A pretty standard question in Parliaments around the world.


But astonishingly the new Defence minister provided her with only details about Civilian casualties and did not provide an Iota of information about Pakistan Army casualties along LoC despite the Senator clearly asking for those details.

Here is the full and unedited Question and Answer:

*Question No. 76 Senator Samina Saeed:
(Notice Received on 22/05/2018 at 2:25 PM) QID: 34588

Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state:
(a) the number of violations committed by Indian forces on the line
of control (LOC) during the current year; and
(b) the number of Army personnel and civilians martyred as a result
of the said violations?

Mr. Pervez Khattak: (a) A total of 1686 x Ceasefire Violations along
LOC have been committed by Indian Army since 1 January, 2018 to date.
(b) 23 x Civilians have embraced Shahadat and 136 x civilians suffered
injuries due to ceasefire violations committed by Indian Forces since 1 January, 2018
to date.

Link: http://senate.gov.pk/uploads/documents/questions/1535521195_746.pdf

 

[Rafi]

Not at all.
Last year your defence ministry reported total of 87 killed in cross firing both military and civilian at the same ISPR said 53 civilians along LoC & IB in 2017 which means Pak military casualties along LoC in 2017 were 34.
This means ISPR did not report 22 casualties to public.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1383209/proposal-for-meeting-of-pak-india-dgmos-under-study

ISPR does not even report names of soldiers who are set to recieve gallantry awards until many months later so forget about them reporting about soldiers who wont recieve gallantry awards

In 2018 GHQ ceremony showed that there were four casualties on 18 Oct, 8 Nov, 19 Nov, 23 Nov (Kel) 2016 something which ISPR or Pakistan media did not report in 2016. The only reason they got mentioned 18 months later was because they won awards which means many who did not get awards in that ceremony are yet to be mentioned.

Pakistan does not even report IED attacks across LoC conducted by India

Pakistan does not also report about Indian BAT attacks to public although it did lodge complains with UNMOGIP
https://www.dawn.com/news/782394

@Darwin

Even few months back on 29th August 2018
PTI Senator Samina Saeed asked Pakistan's new Defence Minister Pervez Khattak details about number of cross LoC firing and Pakistani army and civilian casualties due to it. A pretty standard question in Parliaments around the world.


But astonishingly the new Defence minister provided her with only details about Civilian casualties and did not provide an Iota of information about Pakistan Army casualties along LoC despite the Senator clearly asking for those details.

Here is the full and unedited Question and Answer:

*Question No. 76 Senator Samina Saeed:
(Notice Received on 22/05/2018 at 2:25 PM) QID: 34588

Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state:
(a) the number of violations committed by Indian forces on the line
of control (LOC) during the current year; and
(b) the number of Army personnel and civilians martyred as a result
of the said violations?

Mr. Pervez Khattak: (a) A total of 1686 x Ceasefire Violations along
LOC have been committed by Indian Army since 1 January, 2018 to date.
(b) 23 x Civilians have embraced Shahadat and 136 x civilians suffered
injuries due to ceasefire violations committed by Indian Forces since 1 January, 2018
to date.

Link: http://senate.gov.pk/uploads/documents/questions/1535521195_746.pdf

No, my little Indian friend, we kill and injure many, many more indian soldiers than our own casualties, and there is nothing you can do about it.

 

[Areesh]

Not at all.
Last year your defence ministry reported total of 87 killed in cross firing both military and civilian at the same ISPR said 53 civilians along LoC & IB in 2017 which means Pak military casualties along LoC in 2017 were 34.
This means ISPR did not report 22 casualties to public.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1383209/proposal-for-meeting-of-pak-india-dgmos-under-study

ISPR does not even report names of soldiers who are set to recieve gallantry awards until many months later so forget about them reporting about soldiers who wont recieve gallantry awards

In 2018 GHQ ceremony showed that there were four casualties on 18 Oct, 8 Nov, 19 Nov, 23 Nov (Kel) 2016 something which ISPR or Pakistan media did not report in 2016. The only reason they got mentioned 18 months later was because they won awards which means many who did not get awards in that ceremony are yet to be mentioned.

Pakistan does not even report IED attacks across LoC conducted by India

Pakistan does not also report about Indian BAT attacks to public although it did lodge complains with UNMOGIP
https://www.dawn.com/news/782394

@Darwin

Even few months back on 29th August 2018
PTI Senator Samina Saeed asked Pakistan's new Defence Minister Pervez Khattak details about number of cross LoC firing and Pakistani army and civilian casualties due to it. A pretty standard question in Parliaments around the world.


But astonishingly the new Defence minister provided her with only details about Civilian casualties and did not provide an Iota of information about Pakistan Army casualties along LoC despite the Senator clearly asking for those details.

Here is the full and unedited Question and Answer:

*Question No. 76 Senator Samina Saeed:
(Notice Received on 22/05/2018 at 2:25 PM) QID: 34588

Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state:
(a) the number of violations committed by Indian forces on the line
of control (LOC) during the current year; and
(b) the number of Army personnel and civilians martyred as a result
of the said violations?

Mr. Pervez Khattak: (a) A total of 1686 x Ceasefire Violations along
LOC have been committed by Indian Army since 1 January, 2018 to date.
(b) 23 x Civilians have embraced Shahadat and 136 x civilians suffered
injuries due to ceasefire violations committed by Indian Forces since 1 January, 2018
to date.

Link: http://senate.gov.pk/uploads/documents/questions/1535521195_746.pdf

Manipulations. Misinterpretations. Connecting news A to news Xand news X and news B to feel good and to make other bharatis fool thinking you are killing dozens and dozens of Pakistani soldiers

The fact however is like before past 3 years in particular have been years of thrashing at the hands of Pakistan army for Indian armu

In year 2018 Indian army lost the most number of soldiers since ceasefire was implemented in 2003.

A clear proof that Indian army never killed more Pakistani soldier than own or else this new record wouldn't have been created.

 

[Cuirassier]

Not at all.
Last year your defence ministry reported total of 87 killed in cross firing both military and civilian at the same ISPR said 53 civilians along LoC & IB in 2017 which means Pak military casualties along LoC in 2017 were 34.
This means ISPR did not report 22 casualties to public.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1383209/proposal-for-meeting-of-pak-india-dgmos-under-study

ISPR does not even report names of soldiers who are set to recieve gallantry awards until many months later so forget about them reporting about soldiers who wont recieve gallantry awards

In 2018 GHQ ceremony showed that there were four casualties on 18 Oct, 8 Nov, 19 Nov, 23 Nov (Kel) 2016 something which ISPR or Pakistan media did not report in 2016. The only reason they got mentioned 18 months later was because they won awards which means many who did not get awards in that ceremony are yet to be mentioned.

Pakistan does not even report IED attacks across LoC conducted by India

Pakistan does not also report about Indian BAT attacks to public although it did lodge complains with UNMOGIP
https://www.dawn.com/news/782394

@Darwin

Even few months back on 29th August 2018
PTI Senator Samina Saeed asked Pakistan's new Defence Minister Pervez Khattak details about number of cross LoC firing and Pakistani army and civilian casualties due to it. A pretty standard question in Parliaments around the world.


But astonishingly the new Defence minister provided her with only details about Civilian casualties and did not provide an Iota of information about Pakistan Army casualties along LoC despite the Senator clearly asking for those details.

Here is the full and unedited Question and Answer:

*Question No. 76 Senator Samina Saeed:
(Notice Received on 22/05/2018 at 2:25 PM) QID: 34588

Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state:
(a) the number of violations committed by Indian forces on the line
of control (LOC) during the current year; and
(b) the number of Army personnel and civilians martyred as a result
of the said violations?

Mr. Pervez Khattak: (a) A total of 1686 x Ceasefire Violations along
LOC have been committed by Indian Army since 1 January, 2018 to date.
(b) 23 x Civilians have embraced Shahadat and 136 x civilians suffered
injuries due to ceasefire violations committed by Indian Forces since 1 January, 2018
to date.

Link: http://senate.gov.pk/uploads/documents/questions/1535521195_746.pdf

From 2016-17 , 48 Indian and 28 Pakistani troops have been killed along the LoC and WB.
12 Pakistani troops killed since 29th Sept 2016, and 16 killed in 2017, including undeclared deaths from online sources.
Give me name to name for all supposed 34, plus minus from press reports isn't accurate.

Scores have always been higher for India,

in 2014/15 period 17 Indian and 7 Pakistani troops were killed.

In 2013, 12 Indian and 10 Pakistani troops were killed.

In 2012, 3 Indian troops and 1 Pakistani troop was killed.

In 2011, 5 Indian troops and 3 Pakistani troops were killed.

In 2010, 9 Indian troops were killed.

 

[Cuirassier]

From 2016-17 , 48 Indian and 28 Pakistani troops have been killed along the LoC and WB.
12 Pakistani troops killed since 29th Sept 2016, and 16 killed in 2017, including undeclared deaths from online sources.
Give me name to name for all supposed 34, plus minus from press reports isn't accurate.

Scores have always been higher for India,

in 2014/15 period 17 Indian and 7 Pakistani troops were killed.

In 2013, 12 Indian and 10 Pakistani troops were killed.

In 2012, 3 Indian troops and 1 Pakistani troop was killed.

In 2011, 5 Indian troops and 3 Pakistani troops were killed.

In 2010, 9 Indian troops were killed.

And plus that with the sh*tload of suicides Indian SF personnel do, that's a lot of damage.

 

[Mighty Lion]

12 Pakistani troops killed since 29th Sept 2016

This statemet of yours is enough to prove your posts is based on zero facts.

In 2016 ISPR announced 12 casualties on LoC on only 3 dates; 29 September, 14 November, 23 November (Kotli sector). But the GHQ award ceremony in 2018 showed that there were LoC casualties on 18 October, 8 November, 19 November, 23 November (Kel sector) even though at that time there were no such mentions by ISPR.
Thus proving ISPR does not report casualties.

Even the four new casualties revealed in investiture 2018 were announced only because they won awards. Meaning other who did not get awards have not yet been revealed.


Anyways in 2016 it was stated during an interview of Pakistan defence minister that 27 Pakistani soldiers were KIA & 66 WIA.

https://twitter.com/x/status/802014054382501888

 

[NeonNinja]

From 2016-17 , 48 Indian and 28 Pakistani troops have been killed along the LoC and WB.
12 Pakistani troops killed since 29th Sept 2016, and 16 killed in 2017, including undeclared deaths from online sources.
Give me name to name for all supposed 34, plus minus from press reports isn't accurate.

Scores have always been higher for India,

in 2014/15 period 17 Indian and 7 Pakistani troops were killed.

In 2013, 12 Indian and 10 Pakistani troops were killed.

In 2012, 3 Indian troops and 1 Pakistani troop was killed.

In 2011, 5 Indian troops and 3 Pakistani troops were killed.

In 2010, 9 Indian troops were killed.

Bro why you are wasting your time by arguing with him

 

[Crystal-Clear]

250 only ... haann .. @firestorm7777 .

 

[Windjammer]

@firestorm7777 , kid since you are more desperate than a 50 year old virgin and keep repeating same nonsense to keep yourself alive, well let me show you how you creatures thrive in your own pond.
You talking about casualties, well kiddo, forget revealing the real figure of Indian casualties, your clay footed Netas are not even willing to reveal the price of the ongoing Rafale drama.#

Cannot disclose Rafale deal details in Parliament: Amit Shah
Shah also lauded Finance Minister Arun Jaitley's reply on the matter in Lok Sabha on Thursday. Jaitley had accused the Congress of "seriously compromising" on national security by demanding disclosure of details of the Rafale deal.

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...deal-details-in-parliament-amit-shah-5057694/

 

[Rafi]

@firestorm7777 , kid since you are more desperate than a 50 year old virgin and keep repeating same nonsense to keep yourself alive, well let me show you how you creatures thrive in your own pond.
You talking about casualties, well kiddo, forget revealing the real figure of Indian casualties, your clay footed Netas are not even willing to reveal the price of the ongoing Rafale drama.#

Cannot disclose Rafale deal details in Parliament: Amit Shah
Shah also lauded Finance Minister Arun Jaitley's reply on the matter in Lok Sabha on Thursday. Jaitley had accused the Congress of "seriously compromising" on national security by demanding disclosure of details of the Rafale deal.

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...deal-details-in-parliament-amit-shah-5057694/

There you go. You got the indians by the nuts.