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What i mean is the pK army hides its massive casualties on the LOC under "women" killed on LOC and soldiers killed in baluchistan.What makes you think it isn't a coincidence?
Morarji Desai also said India lost 5000 men in guerrilla warfare in East Pakistan before the actual invasion, would you believe him?What i mean is the pK army hides its massive casualties on the LOC under "women" killed on LOC and soldiers killed in baluchistan.
You must remember it took pak army 8 years to acknowledge that around 500 pak army men were killed in kargil. Though as per nawaz shariff the figure was around 3000.
So hiding 10 - 20 army deaths per month on LOC is child's play for them.
OK. U win.Morarji Desai also said India lost 5000 men in guerrilla warfare in East Pakistan before the actual invasion, would you believe him?
Indian casualties are higher despite claims of Pakistan hiding casualties, which is true but in one or two incidents with single deaths. For example in 2018 9 Pak SF were reported dead, but there were 2 more unreported. In comparison, 47 Indian SF have been killed on LoC/WB, in both Pak fire and militant fire.
Not at all.Morarji Desai also said India lost 5000 men in guerrilla warfare in East Pakistan before the actual invasion, would you believe him?
Indian casualties are higher despite claims of Pakistan hiding casualties, which is true but in one or two incidents with single deaths. For example in 2018 9 Pak SF were reported dead, but there were 2 more unreported. In comparison, 47 Indian SF have been killed on LoC/WB, in both Pak fire and militant fire.
India committed 1881 ceasefire violations last year — the highest number of breaches since the 2003 ceasefire understanding. Those violations left 87 people martyred on the Pakistani side. The casualties included both civilian and military.
Not at all.
Last year your defence ministry reported total of 87 killed in cross firing both military and civilian at the same ISPR said 53 civilians along LoC & IB in 2017 which means Pak military casualties along LoC in 2017 were 34.
This means ISPR did not report 22 casualties to public.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1383209/proposal-for-meeting-of-pak-india-dgmos-under-study
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ISPR does not even report names of soldiers who are set to recieve gallantry awards until many months later so forget about them reporting about soldiers who wont recieve gallantry awards
In 2018 GHQ ceremony showed that there were four casualties on 18 Oct, 8 Nov, 19 Nov, 23 Nov (Kel) 2016 something which ISPR or Pakistan media did not report in 2016. The only reason they got mentioned 18 months later was because they won awards which means many who did not get awards in that ceremony are yet to be mentioned.
Pakistan does not even report IED attacks across LoC conducted by India
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Pakistan does not also report about Indian BAT attacks to public although it did lodge complains with UNMOGIP
https://www.dawn.com/news/782394
@Darwin
Even few months back on 29th August 2018
PTI Senator Samina Saeed asked Pakistan's new Defence Minister Pervez Khattak details about number of cross LoC firing and Pakistani army and civilian casualties due to it. A pretty standard question in Parliaments around the world.
But astonishingly the new Defence minister provided her with only details about Civilian casualties and did not provide an Iota of information about Pakistan Army casualties along LoC despite the Senator clearly asking for those details.
Here is the full and unedited Question and Answer:
*Question No. 76 Senator Samina Saeed:
(Notice Received on 22/05/2018 at 2:25 PM) QID: 34588
Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state:
(a) the number of violations committed by Indian forces on the line
of control (LOC) during the current year; and
(b) the number of Army personnel and civilians martyred as a result
of the said violations?
Mr. Pervez Khattak: (a) A total of 1686 x Ceasefire Violations along
LOC have been committed by Indian Army since 1 January, 2018 to date.
(b) 23 x Civilians have embraced Shahadat and 136 x civilians suffered
injuries due to ceasefire violations committed by Indian Forces since 1 January, 2018
to date.
Link: http://senate.gov.pk/uploads/documents/questions/1535521195_746.pdf
Not at all.
Last year your defence ministry reported total of 87 killed in cross firing both military and civilian at the same ISPR said 53 civilians along LoC & IB in 2017 which means Pak military casualties along LoC in 2017 were 34.
This means ISPR did not report 22 casualties to public.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1383209/proposal-for-meeting-of-pak-india-dgmos-under-study
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ISPR does not even report names of soldiers who are set to recieve gallantry awards until many months later so forget about them reporting about soldiers who wont recieve gallantry awards
In 2018 GHQ ceremony showed that there were four casualties on 18 Oct, 8 Nov, 19 Nov, 23 Nov (Kel) 2016 something which ISPR or Pakistan media did not report in 2016. The only reason they got mentioned 18 months later was because they won awards which means many who did not get awards in that ceremony are yet to be mentioned.
Pakistan does not even report IED attacks across LoC conducted by India
![]()
Pakistan does not also report about Indian BAT attacks to public although it did lodge complains with UNMOGIP
https://www.dawn.com/news/782394
@Darwin
Even few months back on 29th August 2018
PTI Senator Samina Saeed asked Pakistan's new Defence Minister Pervez Khattak details about number of cross LoC firing and Pakistani army and civilian casualties due to it. A pretty standard question in Parliaments around the world.
But astonishingly the new Defence minister provided her with only details about Civilian casualties and did not provide an Iota of information about Pakistan Army casualties along LoC despite the Senator clearly asking for those details.
Here is the full and unedited Question and Answer:
*Question No. 76 Senator Samina Saeed:
(Notice Received on 22/05/2018 at 2:25 PM) QID: 34588
Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state:
(a) the number of violations committed by Indian forces on the line
of control (LOC) during the current year; and
(b) the number of Army personnel and civilians martyred as a result
of the said violations?
Mr. Pervez Khattak: (a) A total of 1686 x Ceasefire Violations along
LOC have been committed by Indian Army since 1 January, 2018 to date.
(b) 23 x Civilians have embraced Shahadat and 136 x civilians suffered
injuries due to ceasefire violations committed by Indian Forces since 1 January, 2018
to date.
Link: http://senate.gov.pk/uploads/documents/questions/1535521195_746.pdf
From 2016-17 , 48 Indian and 28 Pakistani troops have been killed along the LoC and WB.Not at all.
Last year your defence ministry reported total of 87 killed in cross firing both military and civilian at the same ISPR said 53 civilians along LoC & IB in 2017 which means Pak military casualties along LoC in 2017 were 34.
This means ISPR did not report 22 casualties to public.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1383209/proposal-for-meeting-of-pak-india-dgmos-under-study
![]()
ISPR does not even report names of soldiers who are set to recieve gallantry awards until many months later so forget about them reporting about soldiers who wont recieve gallantry awards
In 2018 GHQ ceremony showed that there were four casualties on 18 Oct, 8 Nov, 19 Nov, 23 Nov (Kel) 2016 something which ISPR or Pakistan media did not report in 2016. The only reason they got mentioned 18 months later was because they won awards which means many who did not get awards in that ceremony are yet to be mentioned.
Pakistan does not even report IED attacks across LoC conducted by India
![]()
Pakistan does not also report about Indian BAT attacks to public although it did lodge complains with UNMOGIP
https://www.dawn.com/news/782394
@Darwin
Even few months back on 29th August 2018
PTI Senator Samina Saeed asked Pakistan's new Defence Minister Pervez Khattak details about number of cross LoC firing and Pakistani army and civilian casualties due to it. A pretty standard question in Parliaments around the world.
But astonishingly the new Defence minister provided her with only details about Civilian casualties and did not provide an Iota of information about Pakistan Army casualties along LoC despite the Senator clearly asking for those details.
Here is the full and unedited Question and Answer:
*Question No. 76 Senator Samina Saeed:
(Notice Received on 22/05/2018 at 2:25 PM) QID: 34588
Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state:
(a) the number of violations committed by Indian forces on the line
of control (LOC) during the current year; and
(b) the number of Army personnel and civilians martyred as a result
of the said violations?
Mr. Pervez Khattak: (a) A total of 1686 x Ceasefire Violations along
LOC have been committed by Indian Army since 1 January, 2018 to date.
(b) 23 x Civilians have embraced Shahadat and 136 x civilians suffered
injuries due to ceasefire violations committed by Indian Forces since 1 January, 2018
to date.
Link: http://senate.gov.pk/uploads/documents/questions/1535521195_746.pdf
And plus that with the sh*tload of suicides Indian SF personnel do, that's a lot of damage.From 2016-17 , 48 Indian and 28 Pakistani troops have been killed along the LoC and WB.
12 Pakistani troops killed since 29th Sept 2016, and 16 killed in 2017, including undeclared deaths from online sources.
Give me name to name for all supposed 34, plus minus from press reports isn't accurate.
Scores have always been higher for India,
in 2014/15 period 17 Indian and 7 Pakistani troops were killed.
In 2013, 12 Indian and 10 Pakistani troops were killed.
In 2012, 3 Indian troops and 1 Pakistani troop was killed.
In 2011, 5 Indian troops and 3 Pakistani troops were killed.
In 2010, 9 Indian troops were killed.
This statemet of yours is enough to prove your posts is based on zero facts.12 Pakistani troops killed since 29th Sept 2016
Bro why you are wasting your time by arguing with himFrom 2016-17 , 48 Indian and 28 Pakistani troops have been killed along the LoC and WB.
12 Pakistani troops killed since 29th Sept 2016, and 16 killed in 2017, including undeclared deaths from online sources.
Give me name to name for all supposed 34, plus minus from press reports isn't accurate.
Scores have always been higher for India,
in 2014/15 period 17 Indian and 7 Pakistani troops were killed.
In 2013, 12 Indian and 10 Pakistani troops were killed.
In 2012, 3 Indian troops and 1 Pakistani troop was killed.
In 2011, 5 Indian troops and 3 Pakistani troops were killed.
In 2010, 9 Indian troops were killed.
@firestorm7777 , kid since you are more desperate than a 50 year old virgin and keep repeating same nonsense to keep yourself alive, well let me show you how you creatures thrive in your own pond.
You talking about casualties, well kiddo, forget revealing the real figure of Indian casualties, your clay footed Netas are not even willing to reveal the price of the ongoing Rafale drama.#
Cannot disclose Rafale deal details in Parliament: Amit Shah
Shah also lauded Finance Minister Arun Jaitley's reply on the matter in Lok Sabha on Thursday. Jaitley had accused the Congress of "seriously compromising" on national security by demanding disclosure of details of the Rafale deal.
https://indianexpress.com/article/i...deal-details-in-parliament-amit-shah-5057694/