Army destroyed Kargil papers?

[Irfan Baloch]

This is a pleasant discovery for me!!!!
I didn't knew about it.
never followed war history that passionately other than 'Top Gun' movie, but some times it pays off to be member here.

so in the first day of war.. the Indian army picked up an abandoned Pakistani passenger bus after crossing the border in the Lahore sector. that bus was carrying passengers along the border villages and as the firing started the bus stopped and people fled to the fields and then to the GT road leading to Lahore.

if anyone has been to Kashmiri or Punjab borders, he would see that civilians live and travel very close to the LoC and border. (just explaining in case a clever d1ck questions what was a bus doing at a border)


the bus was later paraded in their news coverage and shown as a proof that the Bharti Soorma were chasing off the Pakistani army in the Lahore suburbs...

their Urdu versions pf papers make even more hilarious red like Indian tanks move on.. Pakistan army runs away from Wazir Abad and all that..

I saw those news clippings published on Jang and Nawa e Waqt some time ago.

but the best part is when after believing this crap of Indian propoganda..

Jin singhi thugs used to looting, raping and murdering unarmed Muslims of India and Kashmir took trucks to loot Lahore but those trucks retruned with the bodies of Indian soldiers after they were confiscated by the army on the border.


just like the invitation cards of the evening ball were already published and distributed among Indian leadership elite of celebrating victory in lahore Jimkhana.. the Indian media was ever so efficient cooking story


you would have seen the interview by the British journalist were he asks a Pakistani Pilot how many times Indians have claimed to shot him down and captured him and he tells him that they just made the claim now while I am talking to you to which both laugh

 

[Ghoster]

so in the first day of war.. the Indian army picked up an abandoned Pakistani passenger bus after crossing the border in the Lahore sector. that bus was carrying passengers along the border villages and as the firing started the bus stopped and people fled to the fields and then to the GT road leading to Lahore.

if anyone has been to Kashmiri or Punjab borders, he would see that civilians live and travel very close to the LoC and border. (just explaining in case a clever d1ck questions what was a bus doing at a border)


the bus was later paraded in their news coverage and shown as a proof that the Bharti Soorma were chasing off the Pakistani army in the Lahore suburbs...

their Urdu versions pf papers make even more hilarious red like Indian tanks move on.. Pakistan army runs away from Wazir Abad and all that..

I saw those news clippings published on Jang and Nawa e Waqt some time ago.

but the best part is when after believing this crap of Indian propoganda..

Jin singhi thugs used to looting, raping and murdering unarmed Muslims of India and Kashmir took trucks to loot Lahore but those trucks retruned with the bodies of Indian soldiers after they were confiscated by the army on the border.


just like the invitation cards of the evening ball were already published and distributed among Indian leadership elite of celebrating victory in lahore Jimkhana.. the Indian media was ever so efficient cooking story


you would have seen the interview by the British journalist were he asks a Pakistani Pilot how many times Indians have claimed to shot him down and captured him and he tells him that they just made the claim now while I am talking to you to which both laugh

Nice BS ....do you have any proof of that........
Atleast our Army doesnot call our soldiers terrorists........well we have one in our neighbourhood who does so.........

 

[DesiGuy]

the reason is not clear why army destroyed those papers. and people here are already making their genius theories???

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Nice BS ....do you have any proof of that........
Atleast our Army doesnot call our soldiers terrorists........well we have one in our neighbourhood who does so.........

I can see your pain, and looking at your posts I am not sure how long
you will survive in this forum

I am not sure posting the "proofs" will help you in anyway.. might speed up the pain in you and result your early demise but if you so keen then do look up PAF pilots of 1965 war in youtube.. I am sure the laughter of the English reporter & his taunting remarks will be very painful

as far as proof of the bus is concerned go visit your war museum or maybe Bollywood scrapyard. I am sure that the relatives of General J. N. Chaudhary might still have that Lahore Gymkhana invitation as souvenir.

oh by the way.. your smart@sred "terrorist" taunt is an own goal
Indian army's atrocities on people of Kashmir and and Sikhs during Khalistan struggle all fall under terrorism only

dont be so emotional about my post I was only answering Batman about Indian media's creativity.. there is no doubt that your Bollywood propaganda is only second to Hollywood

now be quick and rummage through the papers before all is lost in fire

 

[ice_man]

for god sake mods close another kargil thread!!! neither side would admit defeat!

 

[Jade]

Oh..may be you were trying to 'coz ppl dont store dirty laundry in their homes', right?

Or is it beyond your comprehension that there is difference between trash and dirty laundry

 

[Xeric]

the reason is not clear why army destroyed those papers. and people here are already making their genius theories???

What possible reason could be there? Sire, why dont you enlighten us?

Till the time you do that, please allow us to stick to the obvious.

 

[Areesh]

Because people don't store trash in their home

May be because from sinking of Ghazi to Kargil IA and Indian military only stores Bollywood movie scripts and stories and not the so called Trash.

 

[IND151]

i think destroyed papers contained proofs about Chinese involvement in kargil war.my opinion is china did some deal with India to hide this proofs and India destroyed papers off coarse the china must have offered something immensely valuable in return.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

you would have seen the interview by the British journalist were he asks a Pakistani Pilot how many times Indians have claimed to shot him down and captured him and he tells him that they just made the claim now while I am talking to you to which both laugh

Q) I believe the indians said they've shot you down before

A) about 3-4 times.........

"I hope they take a good look at me now!"

(after bombing Pattankot airfield and armed/fuelled iaf aircrafts on the ground)

 

[ice_man]

i think destroyed papers contained proofs about Chinese involvement in kargil war.my opinion is china did some deal with India to hide this proofs and India destroyed papers off coarse the china must have offered something immensely valuable in return.

yes exactly that is why the 71 mehmood-ur-rehman commision never was allowed to release its findings! due to russia's involvement in 71!!


now do i sound as absurd as u???

 

[KS]

well they are very good at it.

Yeah we are not very good at it. Perhaps a lesson from Pakistan will help us.. Remember the 1965 war and how Air Marshal Nur Khan spilt the beans later.

On topic : The papers are related to pre-war patrolling and how some lax officers on the ground discarded the warning of the ground troops about sighting suspicious movements along the LoC and also the warning from the local shepherds in order to save thier skin from the post-war enquiry that was set up to analyse the reasons behind such a big intelligence failure. Please dont tell me officers in the PA dont do that in order to save their skin.

In short :

• This does not affect the results of the war itself and the courage of the Indian soldiers who went beyond their call of duty.. Rather this is an attempt by some corrupt officers to save themselves from the tribunal.
  
• secondly it is not the Army who did this, but some corrupt middle-level officers who did this to save themselves.

 

[Spring Onion]

Nothing big!
Then why those documents were destroyed by Indian Army?

Because if they dont then many tomato catchup gallantries will be exposed.

BTW Indian army also destroyed vital documents of terror camps and terror training they did in India against Pakistan in 71

 

[Spring Onion]

i think destroyed papers contained proofs about Chinese involvement in kargil war.my opinion is china did some deal with India to hide this proofs and India destroyed papers off coarse the china must have offered something immensely valuable in return.

If that is so then its a big hypocrisy by Bharati govt with bharatis who are day on and day of are fed hater mongering against China.

do expose it atleast the war hysteria in India against China will be subsidised

 

[SQ8]

Here's the problem..
The IA had to destroy those papers to avoid being held accountable by its public...
Out here.. every proof of misdemeanors exists and yet nobody wishes to hold anybody accountable.

Both in 65 and Kargil.. there were military surprises involved..
and in such a situation.. particularly to boost the morale of the nation and troops.. false heroes..mistakes..are hidden away.
Medals are awarded to those who actually displayed cowardice..and those that truly fought to the last breath..are covered up..favoritism.. PR.. its dirty.
This destroying of critical documents isnt just restricted to India or Pakistan.