Arjun Mark II : An Israeli View [ Must Read ]

[SEAL]

Arjun has surpassed T-90 .
That proves everything.

Yea man Arjun is better T-90s in IA don't even have air conditioners.

 

[Storm Force]

Arjun looks a real beast..

Other tanks in SOUTH ASIA

look really light and puney LIKE one slap from ARJUN will send them flying

 

[Chanakyaa]

Yea man Arjun is better T-90s in IA don't even have air conditioners.

Based on Target Achievement.
Certainly NOT for ACs.

 

[IND151]

I've heard rumors the Chinese are making a heavy MBT that is in the same class (60 ton
s+). If the Chinese are ever to send tanks over to Pakistan over rail links, it could be an
opponent for Arjun. I would like to see a contest between the two....

as far I have heard, China has developed an 70 ton MBT with 155 MM gun

 

[Hephaestus]

as far I have heard, China has developed an 70 ton MBT with 155 MM gun

I don't think the Chinese have any tank in the 70T category. The MBT 3000 is probably in the 55T cat. Neither are T99 or T96.
155mm gun is a reality though

 

[Teeta]

An Interesting Comment ... if u Appreciate Arjun ...

#1 Arjun is getting massive Israeli help and NOT 6 as being reported in many places in media, but 8 rolled out recently. There are some Armour and rifling techniques which Isreal has taken from India as they were truly impressive. Other than that a lot of contribution from Israel. NO I CAN NOTprove this right now.


This is what i know after discussing Arjun with a high ranking scientist who is a member of the Foreign defense services board (rough translation from Hebrew) who have worked on Arjun for the last 9 months. I personally witnessed a really cool addition to the recent 8, it employs the exact same copy of the HW and SW as the Abrams self diagnostic system...not only does it tell you when the tank is not feeling well but also tells you which part.

there is also a battle management system deployed....the funniest part was how decked up the CO's Arjun was...the seats are amazing, even the Russian contingent (overpaid pricks) were emotionally moved to see the interior with all the widgets - and went the best capitalist tank (being sarc. and all)

...i think i will be able to SOMEDAY get pictures of the ARJUN M2 and let you folks see what i have seen...it a true comfort to drive that tank
I walk among diffrent circles compared to many out here on the forum and intend to build a reputation where people believe me without much fuss...

as i will not always be able to post links (actually i am too deep into defense to rely on media and links to prove myself). Anyway i am off to a hunting trip organised my some army chaps here in India..will defanately take pictures and post that


#2 You really will have a problem ...say in a desert coming close to this machine. This is a really good machine...the main gun beats the Merkava any day.

Bloody hell the shear energy at extended range in ft.lb delivered with the accuracy is truly astonishing...i personally think this main gun is a accidental find for Indian's. the saboy round penetrated the hull of a t-55 derelict then went through the second one behind it and the place where it pierced the sand dune had a formation of glass crystals around the sand.

I have an idea (to how the Pakistanis can get it)...when the crew falls to sleep driving this beast - due to its crew comfort...you could run to it and shove some tnt between the hull and the chaise

#3 I just saw the interior picture of Al khaled. You have a serious problem here. Is that a prototype or the finished product? I am serious , i really need to know this.

I truly hope that it is not a finished product. If it is, my god " the very Question that arjune is a better tank is a understatement. You have no idea what you have here lads. Even if the idea is a "will get the job done and cheap to produce" Al Khaled can be mass produced is the idea of Pakistani Armour....etc etc....WHAT ARE YOU GUYS THINKING?

Someone here tell me what is the purpose of Al-k...isit supposed to take on the inferior Indian tanks and put the t-80 against the arjun (still crazy - Russian admit it will eat the t-90) ok maybe its a attempt by Pakistan to atleast get hold of technologies to create a tank..etc etc
the nuts and bolts in alkhalid will kill the crew if a HESH round even nicked it. moreso the LR-APFSDS will cut like butter the armour....you guys better get some good reactive armour on this tiny thing. please any experts here..
i really wish to ask some questions on the al-khaled.

#4 Incidentally my father worked on a series of Merkava tanks (yes yes i am a Jew) i too graduated with honors in Armour. but right now in a slightly different objective in India. anyway i agree with you maneuver is imp.

BUT THEN AGAIN in all the discussion i have seen here maneuver is something gone a miss here. i havent driven a al -k but this arjun is as maneuverable as a Abram M2(spent a lot of my time with these tanks) ..no bloody difference, i dont know maybe al-khalid is much better compared to A-M2 in maneuver.

You will outrange it...by what 5000m from a reflexes Chinese copy of soviet projectile...do you think no one here thought of ATGM and countermeasure. This is the classified bit in electronics Israeli gave to Arjun. I am telling you buddy, someone better get serious about countering Arjun...its mere prototype passed direct hits from t-90 AP rounds (new round), it passed fragmented top attack munitions, You want to kill it.

a) you need to get it tracks off
b) in some way get the electronics off
c) hit it at less than 200 m from something like a Milan 3 repeatedly in hopefully the same area or
d)put a huge mine under it (has counter electronic to detect it...direct contribution from what is to be a Merkava 4 system)
e) i would have a serious debate going against this tank on a Merkava 3 and i am honors in armour and spent a few.

I think the brits will be very very interested in the armour these people have developed or even the rednecks....thats the level and quality you are looking at

Is this a joke or what? The OP sounded like an excited....kid.

When my grandson get some new toy, he comes upto me, hustling, with his spit going down his lips, and he talks quickly..sometimes he just mumbles...I literally thought of that while reading your OP.

Arjun looks a real beast..

Other tanks in SOUTH ASIA

look really light and puney LIKE one slap from ARJUN will send them flying

Smaller , lighter, faster, and stealthy tanks are the future.

BTW, what is this big cylindrical thingy in the back of Arjun? Don't tell me its a fuel tank

 

[datalibdaz]

Is this a joke or what? You sounded like an excited....kid.

When my grandson get some new toy, he comes upto me, hustling, with his spit going down his lips, and he talks quickly..sometimes he just mumbles...I literally thought of that while reading your OP.

Have some class.





Smaller , lighter, faster, and stealthy tanks are the future.

BTW, what is this big cylindrical thingy in the back of Arjun? Don't tell me its a fuel tank

No..Noo...Your comment would extend this thread to another 20 pages with Indians whining and proving with fake idiotic articles to prove that arjun is the queen of all tanks...

 

[zaxcolix]

Is this a joke or what? You sounded like an excited....kid.

When my grandson get some new toy, he comes upto me, hustling, with his spit going down his lips, and he talks quickly..sometimes he just mumbles...I literally thought of that while reading your OP.

Have some class.





Smaller , lighter, faster, and stealthy tanks are the future.

BTW, what is this big cylindrical thingy in the back of Arjun? Don't tell me its a fuel tank

Is your post a joke or what?

When my neighbors wife seem someone get a new car, she comes upto us, hissing, with her eyes going wild, and she talks quickly..sometimes she just mumbles...I literally thought of that while reading your OP.

Have some shame.

BTW, that big cylindrical thingy in the back of Arjun is provision to carry extra fuel

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

Is this a joke or what? The OP sounded like an excited....kid.

When my grandson get some new toy, he comes upto me, hustling, with his spit going down his lips, and he talks quickly..sometimes he just mumbles...I literally thought of that while reading your OP.





Smaller , lighter, faster, and stealthy tanks are the future.

BTW, what is this big cylindrical thingy in the back of Arjun? Don't tell me its a fuel tank

so when is M1Abrams retiring ??

 

[zaxcolix]

No..Noo...Your comment would extend this thread to another 20 pages with Indians whining and proving with fake idiotic articles to prove that arjun is the queen of all tanks...

Thank you for recognizing 'Tatta' is a troll

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

^^^Can some one please use " report button ".. I am on mobile.

 

[Teeta]

Oh so my comment to that indian kid was deleted? hah.

Anyways, this 'extra-fuel' carrying cylinder back in the tank is funny..it makes tank look like a joke. I mean, even some bullets will bust this 'fuel storage' and tank will be in fires...

Anyways, what are the specifications of Arjun-2? Any idea? Currently Pakistan's Al-Khalid-1 is superior to Arjun-1 of India over-all. Arjun will fill this gap I think.

 

[Sergi]

Oh so my comment to that indian kid was deleted? hah.

Anyways, this 'extra-fuel' carrying cylinder back in the tank is funny..it makes tank look like a joke. I mean, even some bullets will bust this 'fuel storage' and tank will be in fires...

Anyways, what are the specifications of Arjun-2? Any idea? Currently Pakistan's Al-Khalid-1 is superior to Arjun-1 of India over-all. Arjun will fill this gap I think.

Hahahaha I never understand the need to use other countries flags just to troll. Why not show up real flags and troll ???
Don't tell me you are uS citizen

Tell me how come AK is superior to Arjun ??? You tested them in your wet dreams or what ???

 

[Teeta]

Hahahaha I never understand the need to use other countries flags just to troll. Why not show up real flags and troll ???
Don't tell me you are uS citizen

Tell me how come AK is superior to Arjun ??? You tested them in your wet dreams or what ???

I'm a US citizen. Why? My grandfather was a naturalized citizen though.

How Al Khalid-1 is better than Arjun 1? Well, I happen to have glanced at the specifications of both tanks. Al Khalid-1 comes out to be superior in my view. You don't agree? Good. I don't care either. Lets make it "Arjun is superior to Al Khalid"...does that change anything for you?

Anyhow, answer my questions. How many Arjun-II are in service?

The OP sounds like a childish rant to me, without proper punctuation.

 

[Sergi]

I'm a US citizen. Why? My grandfather was a naturalized citizen though.

How Al Khalid-1 is better than Arjun 1? Well, I happen to have glanced at the specifications of both tanks. Al Khalid-1 comes out to be superior in my view. You don't agree? Good. I don't care either. Lets make it "Arjun is superior to Al Khalid"...does that change anything for you?

Anyhow, answer my questions. How many Arjun-II are in service?

The OP sounds like a childish rant to me, without proper punctuation.

You are calling OP childish great

Don't quote me unless you have something to back it up. I am alergic to your BS troll

BTW if you know the time zone concept you would understand some facts