Are you in favor of 35 province in Pakistan??

[dil_dil]

Go write Tanoli on Google....

I also read pahari Sudhans are pashtuns from Afghanistan, all bullshit no substance.

 

[he-man]

I also read pahari Sudhans are pashtuns from Afghanistan, all bullshit no substance.

Submit to indian punjab under the leadership of parkash singh badal and all problems will be solved

 

[A.M.]

We need uncorrupt leadership and a strong democracy. Our problem isn't that we have four provinces, it's the fact that we have always had incompetent leadership.

 

[nangyale]

No need to make that many provinces.
You can not make assembly and Chief Minister plus Governors for that many provinces financially it will be unfeasible.

What is needed is better management and improvement of the current structure. Make FATA part of K.Pakhtonkhwa, establish Gilgit-Baltistan as a province. Make referendums in Karachi and Bahawalpur on the issue of separate provinces.

 

[Fahad Khan 2]

I also read pahari Sudhans are pashtuns from Afghanistan, all bullshit no substance.

The Tanolis originally lived in Dara Tanal, in the Ghazni region of present day Afghanistan.[9][10] In the year 971 AD the Tanolis joined the army of the Ghaznavid Emperor Sabuktigin and traveled with them to Hindustan. After the conquests, the Tanolis settled in Swat and Buner previously known as Mahaban Area, formed their own state with principal seat at chamla and appointed Anwar Khan Tanoli son of Behram Khan as their first Amir. Tanolis ruled Swat and Buner till 1232 A.D.[10] But, later they came into conflict with the other fellow Pashtun tribes who had newly migrated eastward into the region, most notably the Yusufzai. The Tanolis fought three battles, defeated Utmanzai and Ummarzai tribes in first two battles, but in the third battle the Tanolis were defeated under their leader Ameer Khan Tanoli at Topi. When the Tanolis were defeated, they migrated further eastwards and crossed the Indus River, and succeeded to defeat the Turks settled on the eastern bank of the Indus River, capturing the territory and naming it after their tribe. In 1752, the Tanolis allied with the Afghan Emperor Ahmad Shah Abdali and took part in military conquests, including the Battle of Panipat in 1761, under their chief Zabardast Khan Tanoli who was given the title of "Suba Khan" by Ahmad Shah Baba for his bravery.

 

[dil_dil]

Go write Tanoli on Google....




of Amb.
The Tanoli/Tanokhel(Hindko/Urdu: تنولی‎; Pashto: تنولي‎) is an Afghan Pashtun Tribe[1][2][3] of Batani confideration mostly inhabiting the Tanawal valley of the North-West Frontier of present day Pakistan, named after the Tanoli tribe when took over the valley from Turks in the 14th century. One of the oldest and the most authentic books on Afghans, Mekhzen-e-Afghani of Neamat Ullah written during the period 1609-1611 asserts that: Ghilzai, son of Mato, was blessed with three sons: Ibrahim(Lodhi), Toor(Toran) and Poor(Buran). Ibrahim had two sons; Haijub and Sahbak. Tano was one of the Thirteen sons of Haijub.[4] Though, today the Tanawal area is part of the Hazara division of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan, in the past the larger portion of it comprised the two semi-independent native states or principalities of Amb and Phulra, ruled over by Tanoli chiefs of the same family, c 1840s to 1972. Prior to that, the area or 'Ilaqa' of Tanawal had remained an independent territory for long, from the 14th century to the 19th.[5] Across the Durand line, there are also Tanolis living in Ghazni and Paktia provinces of Afghanistan. The Tanoli, allied with other Pashtuns of the region, participated in the frontier wars c. 1840s against the British. In Charles Allen's analysis of these wars, the Tanolis were described as "extremely hostile,brave and hardy, and accounted for the best swordsmen in Hazara".[

Listen, one is pashtun by blood not even speaking pashto is enough unlike in case of Punjabis. Afghanistan Tanolis are distinct from Hazara region Tanolis. Just like Afghanistan Sadozai are not like Sudhans of Azad Kashmir.

Pdf member marwat is pashtun despite his ancestor being sindhi hindu lohani, his ancestors were defeated and assimilated in to pashtuns by force.

Niazis are asli pashtuns, i am pretty sure their origin is Afghanistan and not even Pakistan unlike many asli pashtun tribes from Pakistan. No one doubt about Niazis being pashtuns and for a good reason..

 

[Fahad Khan 2]

I also read pahari Sudhans are pashtuns from Afghanistan, all bullshit no substance.

If you read it says tanoli tribe still live paktai and ghazni province of Afghanistan..

 

[dil_dil]

The Tanolis originally lived in Dara Tanal, in the Ghazni region of present day Afghanistan.[9][10] In the year 971 AD the Tanolis joined the army of the Ghaznavid Emperor Sabuktigin and traveled with them to Hindustan. After the conquests, the Tanolis settled in Swat and Buner previously known as Mahaban Area, formed their own state with principal seat at chamla and appointed Anwar Khan Tanoli son of Behram Khan as their first Amir. Tanolis ruled Swat and Buner till 1232 A.D.[10] But, later they came into conflict with the other fellow Pashtun tribes who had newly migrated eastward into the region, most notably the Yusufzai. The Tanolis fought three battles, defeated Utmanzai and Ummarzai tribes in first two battles, but in the third battle the Tanolis were defeated under their leader Ameer Khan Tanoli at Topi. When the Tanolis were defeated, they migrated further eastwards and crossed the Indus River, and succeeded to defeat the Turks settled on the eastern bank of the Indus River, capturing the territory and naming it after their tribe. In 1752, the Tanolis allied with the Afghan Emperor Ahmad Shah Abdali and took part in military conquests, including the Battle of Panipat in 1761, under their chief Zabardast Khan Tanoli who was given the title of "Suba Khan" by Ahmad Shah Baba for his bravery.

Forget about Tanolis of Afghanistan, you should only concentrate on Tanolis of Hazara region.

 

[ghoul]

But Niazis of Punjab are asli pashtuns despite speaking punjabi but not you guys. You guys are just confused souls @ghoul

He must be an Afghan "Tanoli" like Fardeen Khan... The Hazara Tanolis are originally Barlas Mughals and have nothing to do with the Afghan "Taniwali". The Hazara Tanoli don't look Pashtun at all and most are also in favour of Hazara province.

 

[Fahad Khan 2]

Listen, one is pashtun by blood not even speaking pashto is enough unlike in case of Punjabis. Afghanistan Tanolis are distinct from Hazara region Tanolis. Just like Afghanistan Sadozai are not like Sudhans of Azad Kashmir.

Pdf member marwat is pashtun despite his ancestor being sindhi hindu lohani, his ancestors were defeated and assimilated in to pashtuns by force.

Niazis are asli pashtuns, i am pretty sure their origin is Afghanistan and not even Pakistan unlike many asli pashtun tribes from Pakistan. No one doubt about Niazis being pashtuns and for a good reason..

You are just beating around bush are you historian??
Tanoli are Pushtoon if you meet me you will first take me has Pushtoon my university friends also think I'm Pushtoon....
But now we have no link we cultural relations are more near to Punjabi with hindoko speaking...
Peace....

 

[dil_dil]

He must be an Afghan "Tanoli" like Fardeen Khan... The Hazara Tanolis are originally Barlas Mughals and have nothing to do with the Afghan "Taniwali". The Hazara Tanoli don't look Pashtun at all and most are also in favour of Hazara province.

So Afghans one are called Taniwali and not even Tanoli? Basically little similarity in name is all one need.

You are just beating around bush are you historian??
Tanoli are Pushtoon if you meet me you will first take me has Pushtoon my university friends also think I'm Pushtoon....
But now we have no link we cultural relations are more near to Punjabi with hindoko speaking...
Peace....

I can distinguish pashtuns from others pretty easly, you better look like proper pashtun. Because asli pashtuns of KPK call you guys punjabis.

 

[Fahad Khan 2]

Forget about Tanolis of Afghanistan, you should only concentrate on Tanolis of Hazara region.

Thats why I said the Tanoli living in Hazarat have no relations with Tanoli Afgha now... We are now totally different but you cannot change your origin....

 

[ghoul]

So Afghans one are called Taniwali and not even Tanoli? Basically little similarity in name is all one need.

Wikipedia is trash lol. Citing is the dumbest thing when it comes to history and race.

 

[nomi007]

NO mil mi-28 is better

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

28 or Turkish T-129!