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Are We Still Going to Support Israel If They Use Nuclear Weapons?

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/are-we-still-going-to-sup_b_38001.html

Are there no bounds to hypocrisy? The Times is reporting that Israel is seriously considering using nuclear weapons against Iran so that Iran does not threaten the world with nuclear weapons. That would break all irony records.

If Iran is at best two years away from developing a nuclear weapon and they say they have no intention of even building one, let alone using it against anybody and Israel says they are planning to use one against Iran, shouldn't we be considering preemptive military action against Israel instead?

We claim that we care about non-proliferation. We claim that we care about the use of weapons of mass destruction. Then shouldn't our top priority be to stop Israel?

Or could it be that we are wildly hypocritical and don't give a damn about weapons of mass destruction as long as it is our friends who use them? Remember we didn't mind at all when Saddam Hussein used WMD against Iran, because at the time he was on our side.

If we condone Israel using a nuclear weapon against a Muslim country, then we will not have a "war on terror" anymore, we will have the war against Islam that some of the conservative nut-jobs in this country have been hoping and pushing for. Do you know that there are one billion Muslims in the world? One billion.

This plan is okay we're told because these will only be "tactical" nuclear weapons. Are there ones with no tactics? I am sure that the 70 million people in Iran and the rest of the Muslim world will understand this distinction. No, don't worry, the nuclear fallout that killed your children was from a tactical nuclear weapon.

I don't know why Israel is threatening to do this, whether it's to get us to start a war with Iran instead (how does it make it better for us if we fight Israel's irrational war for it) or to scare Iran into cooperating or because they're actually going to do it. But it's madness all the same.

Even threatening to use nuclear weapons against another sovereign country is a complete abdication of the moral high ground. Then you have absolutely no right to complain about the idea that Iran might use them at a later time. You are, in essence, saying it is perfectly acceptable to use them.

If Israel actually goes through with this, they will be an international pariah and they should no longer be considered an ally. There is no legitimate excuse to do a nuclear first strike.

This isn't even about Israel's concern that Iran would ever use their non-existent nuclear weapons. They know that even Iran isn't crazy enough to risk the lives of every one of their citizens by dropping a nuclear bomb on Israel - and that would clearly be the retaliation they would face.

Instead, this is about Iran gaining bargaining leverage in the Middle East. If Israel is willing to nuke a country to make sure they don't have slightly better leverage in the region, then their government is far more hideous than I think (I assume and hope that the government considering this barbaric idea doesn't truly represent the will of the Israeli people).

Finally, if Israel launches a nuclear first strike, it will absolutely guarantee a nuclear build-up in the Middle East, and the rest of the world. If there are countries in the world that are willing to use nuclear weapons on countries that did not attack them, then all other nations must be prepared and must have deterrence of their own. It would be irrational and irresponsible of any government not to build up their own nuclear arsenal to prevent countries like Israel from attacking them.

It must be noted in the end that this has not happened yet. It is grossly irresponsible and counterproductive to even suggest the possibility, as apparently some in the Israeli government have. But Israel has not launched their nukes yet. I hope that they are bluffing. But if they are not and they go through with this plan, it would be unconscionable to support them. If they use nuclear weapons against a country that did not attack them, we must end our relationship with them and let the world know they are no longer our ally.
As the article starts... "Are there no bounds to hypocrisy?"
 
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DOgs that BArk dont bite.
As long As Muslim countries are fighting each other.enemy has a free hand to do what it likes and where it likes.if west shares its tech and weapons with each others . and make themselfs strong then muslims will have to do the same.
If any body in muslim world thinks that these guys will stop after Iran better get there heads out of sand.:coffee:
 
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India and Israel’s earth penetrating tactical nuclear weapons can take out Iranian and Pakistani nuclear infrastructure in less than an hour
Shelhar Pandit

Jan. 7, 2007

Iran and Pakistan have put their Islamic bombs :rolleyes: deep underground the earth. The Iranian and Pakistani leaders are confident of their protected nukes. According to media reports Israel is planning to use their earth penetrating tactical nuclear weapons can take out Iranian nuclear infrastructure. India has similar plans on an ‘only if needed’ basis.

Israel has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran's uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons, Britain's Sunday Times newspaper said. Citing what it said were several Israeli military sources, the paper said two Israeli air force squadrons had been training to blow up an enrichment plant in Natanz using low-yield nuclear "bunker busters." Two other sites, a heavy water plant at Arak and a uranium conversion plant at Isfahan, would be targeted with conventional bombs, the Sunday Times said. According to sources, India has similar capabilities and have plans to neutralize Paksitan’s nuclear capabilities in similar way.

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/15056.asp
 
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India and Israel’s earth penetrating tactical nuclear weapons can take out Iranian and Pakistani nuclear infrastructure in less than an hour
Shelhar Pandit

Jan. 7, 2007

Iran and Pakistan have put their Islamic bombs :rolleyes: deep underground the earth. The Iranian and Pakistani leaders are confident of their protected nukes. According to media reports Israel is planning to use their earth penetrating tactical nuclear weapons can take out Iranian nuclear infrastructure. India has similar plans on an ‘only if needed’ basis.

Israel has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran's uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons, Britain's Sunday Times newspaper said. Citing what it said were several Israeli military sources, the paper said two Israeli air force squadrons had been training to blow up an enrichment plant in Natanz using low-yield nuclear "bunker busters." Two other sites, a heavy water plant at Arak and a uranium conversion plant at Isfahan, would be targeted with conventional bombs, the Sunday Times said. According to sources, India has similar capabilities and have plans to neutralize Paksitan’s nuclear capabilities in similar way.

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/15056.asp

ANd then Shelhar Pandit fell of the bed.:D indians and there wet dreams never stop dreaming like there jewish counterparts.:rofl:
 
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Israel developing world's largest drone

JERUSALEM: January 08, 2007: Israel is developing the world's largest unmanned aircraft which will be used for long-range operations and destroying ballistic missiles as they are being launched, a security official said on Monday.

The Eitan has been developed by the Israel Aircraft Industries and has a wing span of 35 metres (110 feet) -- similar to that of a Boeing 737 passenger plane -- the official told AFP.

According to the Yediot Aharonot daily, the drone was designed for long endurance and high altitude flights and is equipped with an array of advanced cameras and missiles which allow it to identify and intercept long-range missiles as they are being fired on the ground.

It will make its maiden flight in the coming days, the paper said.

Israel has stepped up in recent years the development of technologies to face the threat of missile attacks, fearing most notably Iran, which has acquired long-range ballistic missiles able to reach Israel and beyond.

Coupled with President Mahmud Ahmedinejad's calls for the destruction of Israel, Iran's controversial nuclear programme, which Israel claims is aimed at acquiring an atomic bomb, has become the Jewish state's main strategic threat.

Iran, which last year tested the Shahab-3 missiles which are capable of hitting targets around 2,000 kilometres away, nevertheless insists the programme is aimed solely for peaceful means.

Source: Brecorder.com Jan 8th.
 
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Iran says it has no intentions in developing the weapons and you want us to believe it.Wel it aslo said it would wipe out Israel,we should belive that too then,right?
 
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Iran says it has no intentions in developing the weapons and you want us to believe it.Wel it aslo said it would wipe out Israel,we should belive that too then,right?

You should be smart enough to differentiate between the two.
 
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Iran says it has no intentions in developing the weapons and you want us to believe it.Wel it aslo said it would wipe out Israel,we should belive that too then,right?


Iran is doing the same thing as pakistan and indian did when they went into the nuclear arena and stating that it has nuclear tech only for peaceful purpose's.
I am certain no one objects to iran having nuclear weapons to defend itself in same manner china,india,pakistan and other nuclear nations have weaapons to defend themselfs with.Its is only america and israel that do not want a nuclear iran.


TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Iran's new president has repeated a remark from a former ayatollah that Israel should be "wiped out from the map," insisting that a new series of attacks will destroy the Jewish state, and lashing out at Muslim countries and leaders that acknowledge Israel.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/26/ahmadinejad/

There is even doubt about if Ahmadinejad words where translated correctly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
 
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Iran says it has no intentions in developing the weapons and you want us to believe it.Wel it aslo said it would wipe out Israel,we should belive that too then,right?


Actually Irani president never said about wiping Israel off the map.
 
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Wel it aslo said it would wipe out Israel,we should belive that too then,right?

Iran only said what Israel and US have practiced widely. The genocides in Iraq, 655.000 civilians dead, clusterbobs in civilian area's of Beirut to name a few.

Should we accept that?
 
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Iran is doing the same thing as pakistan and indian did when they went into the nuclear arena and stating that it has nuclear tech only for peaceful purpose's.

You cant compare pak and India to Iran.I have never heard Pak/Ind - Pres/PM saying anybody should be wiped off.

He is an idiot.Iran should be more worried about its own people,and concentrated on improving their lives than engaging in such rheotoric.He should have taken Iran away from the centre of conflict,instead he has walked straight into it.


I am certain no one objects to iran having nuclear weapons to defend itself in same manner china,india,pakistan and other nuclear nations have weaapons to defend themselfs with.Its is only america and israel that do not want a nuclear iran.

So whats your stance is iran developing weapons or not?

India doesnt want for sure,so does Saudi.Saudi and iran has been over logger heads over the shia-sunni issue brimming in ME.
 
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