Whilst discussing something about saudia arabia on another thread I suggested that I felt that the Saudis Royals were bad. However a saudi came on to defend their royal family. So I googled and came with the following article. I have always thought of them as bad apples and agree on the whole with the article below. I would be interested to see what other forum members comments on this family.
The Saudi Royals Are Traitors To Islam
By Karl Schwarz
9-30-9
The Rense website posted an article that states that the Saudis are okay with Israel attacking Iran and even using their airspace to do so. How accommodating! Sort of reminds me of the Saudis agreeing to let the US and UK launch a war at Iraq based on Bush 41 lies, just like Bush 43 did when he got into the Oval Office.
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Saudis will let Israel bomb Iran nuclear site nuclear-site
It raises the obvious question as to why an Islamic nation would endorse or offer support for any of the anti-Islamic racist actions of Israel, or the UK or the US towards Afghanistan, Iraq, the Palestinians, Lebanon, Iran or any other Islamic nation. Are we left to presume the Saudis are ok with such just as long as we do not regime change them, too?
The answer is quite simple. The Saudi royal families like their status quo whereby oil wealth flows only to the Royal Family and they dole out what they wish to their peon Saudi citizens. They do not want democracy, truth or anything that disrupts the flows of billions each month to the Royal Family and their perverse deviant pursuits.
The US pretends to be so intent on 'regime change' in the Middle East but keeps overlooking the sins and moral decadence of their good buddies in the Saudi Royal family.
The Saudis had the same problem with Iraq and why they have sat idly by while the US and UK have slaughtered over 1 million Iraqis on the basis of nothing but lies from the US, UK and their respective 'intelligence sources'.
Of course, the Saudis are more than willing to be such 'intelligence sources' if that means they keep the billions in oil pelf they get every year for playing along.
There was apparently no one in the Saudi Royal family that had a problem at all with this quote from a known Zionist Jew Neocon Edward Luttwak about why Iraq had to be destroyed in 1991:
Iran Is Still NOT The Problem
"Saddam is not like the Saudi Princes who spend the bulk of their lives outside of their country, and who fritter away the Kingdom's oil profits on prostitutes and bottles of champagne in Paris. No, Saddam is building railways! Creating electrical networks! Highways and other important elements of a serious State infrastructure! After eights years of war against the Iranian regime of Khomeini, he desperately needs to demobilize his Republican Guard, which incorporates so many of this technical elite, in order to rebuild the war-devastated country. These people are his technicians, his engineers. If they are put to work in the way Saddam wishes, they will rapidly make Iraq the most advanced power in the region, and we cannot allow this to happen."
They like to flaunt their billions in oil wealth while the Middle East world sinks lower into the pits and impoverishment just will not go away even with the tens of billions flowing in daily, weekly and monthly. They are quite OK in stomping on any Islamic nation that might show their citizens in Saudi Arabia that there is a different way to live without a bunch of decadent Royals running the show and squandering the wealth the oil brings in on prostitutes, living the Life of Riley, champagne, luxury personal jumbo jets, mansions, cars, etc.
Their political whore-ism to the US and Israel agendas in the Middle East is quite OK if some nation like Iraq or Iran tries to build a real nation and use the oil wealth for the benefit of their own citizens. That might show the Saudi citizens that it is time they get rid of the Royal Family and run a real democracy in Saudi Arabia.
I am not sure how many times I have to publicize that Edward Luttwak quote in 1991 before Americans wake up from their stupor and get it. Both Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom are because of that sort of policy development and asinine world view. That the US, UK, Saudis and Israelis can agree on such genocide of Islamic people should tell you all you need to know about what the true agenda is.
That centuries of impoverishment are not allowed to go away and people can have real lives, financial security, jobs, economic development, etc is all part of a joint Saudi, Israeli, UK and US agenda for the Middle East.
The agenda is oil, lining the right pockets and making sure that no nation in the Middle East develops as a serious contender to the Zionist Israel - Saudi - US - UK version of how things are to be.
The Iraq sin was they were using the oil wealth to build 'serious State infrastructure' and use that wealth for the benefit of Iraqis. Wow, that is evil, NOT! Iraq was building into a regional power and as a real European-style nation. That is what the 'serious State infrastructure' was all about. That just could not be allowed according to Israel and the Saudis, and their good buddies in Washington DC and London.
There was no WMD, no imminent threat to the US or any other nation and no connection to Al Qaeda and 9-11 whatsoever. Those US, UK and Israel assertions have all been emphatically proven to be premeditated lies.
The Iran sin is exactly the same in that the oil and natural gas wealth belongs to Iran, not the UK, US, Israel, or the Saudis.
As a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Iran has the absolute right to development of peaceful nuclear energy. As a non-signatory to that same treaty Israel does not have the international law right to possess its nuclear warhead stockpile or use it for blackmail, extortion and literal nuclear terrorism.
The IAEA says there is no Iran nuclear weapons program. Many inspections and surprise inspections have found no evidence of a nuclear weapons program. The CIA has admitted that Iran does not possess the capabilities and some who have left the CIA have gone public that there is absolutely no nuclear weapons program.
For the record, Israel does not allow the IAEA to inspect their Dimona nuclear weapons program, nuclear missiles, etc.
So, what is the problem with Iran?
The Iranians are setting a bad example that might wind up overthrowing the Saudis and their lock on the oil income of their nation that goes straight to the Royal Family. A national oil resource only belongs to the Royals, right? That is the Iranian sin, they are doing it for their people and that scares the Saudi Royals. They are afraid that the Saudi people might decide that 'regime change' is in their best interests.
I bet if one looks deep enough, the Saudis are all about controlling Iran oil wealth since theirs is depleting and the day is coming that they will be running out of cash flow for their perversions. They have probably cut themselves in on just about every planned deal after the US attacks Iran to steal those oil and natural gas assets. They are involved in the Caspian Basin and Afghanistan as Delta Oil and other Royal Family controlled companies that sound rather Western in name, not Islamic.
You can bet all you have that the Zionists Jews have already cut themselves into the Iranian oil, natural gas and uranium that they salivate like Pavlov dogs to control. They covet it just like their greedy elite friends in London, Wall Street and DC.
Anyone want to bet me on that? The Thomas Kean (9-11 Commission) led Amerada Hess is involved with Delta Oil (Saudi) in Azerbaijan and Caspian Sea. The Saudi controlled company was even involved in trying to get the Taliban to allow Delta Oil - Unocal to have the pipeline right of way across Afghanistan for $100 million a year. It is in the book I wrote, 'One-Way Ticket to Crawford Texas'.
My sources inform that the Saudis are also wedged into some of the Caspian Basin oil deals in Turkmenistan and now we are learning that Afghanistan and the Baluchistan area of Pakistan might be rich in oil and gas. That is the planned path of the IPI pipeline from Iran to Pakistan to India. It is also the planned path of the Afghanistan pipeline from Turkmenistan, if and when it ever happens.
Yeah, there are many in London, Tel Aviv, DC and even Riyadh salivating over being the sellers of that oil to Pakistan and India.
China has $400 billion in oil and gas deals with Iran and Iran is delivering. That money is not going to the greedy elite in London, Tel Aviv, DC and even Riyadh.
China has even built a port in the region and already the US is trying to figure out how they can take control of it, and Baluchistan, and Iran and still cannot get anything done in Iraq or Afghanistan.
I was curious why US oil companies were so in bed with the Saudis since it was supposedly a group of Saudi radicals that 'allegedly' attacked the United States on 9-11-2001. Seems oil makes for strange bedfellows.
The Saudis are very much like the Israelis in that they like the current status quo in the Middle East where the Israelis think they are top nuclear dog, with US bully backing, and the Saudi royals get to squander billions on any idiot idea or perversion they wish. The overall oil revenues in the Middle East could have eliminated poverty decades ago but there are some that prefer they have the wealth and the poverty remains and even the reasons that poverty causes terrorism as a means and strategy to make change happen.
In many ways, the Saudis are just as despicable as the Zionist Israelis in their wanton disregard for the human and humane rights of others in that entire region. With the oil wealth, the Middle East could be booming but certain parties want that wealth and their people get to eat cake, what little of it there is handed down from their not so benevolent Royal leaders.
When you extend that thought further that the Israelis specialize in about every form of human perversion and the Saudi Royal family is an endless series of human perversions on display, they are kin in more ways than just being Semites. They are both decadent and morally bankrupt.
Sort of like this Saudi Prince Alaweed bin Talal, who thinks he deserves an Airbus A380 jumbo jet as his private palace jet. The 747 evidently was not big enough. Does anyone deserve or need an Airbus A380 jumbo jet whore house as a private jet? If I were worth $500 billion a Falcon Jet would be sufficient.
They like that, hedonists that they are while pretending to be the strictest of the various Islamic factions as Wahhabis. They are very strict and even behead people for minor offenses yet never manage to fall on their own sword to punish their despicable conduct. They are just as morally corrupt as the Zionists that pretend to be devout Jews or the nitwits in the US that pretend to be good warmongering Christians.
Part of the problem lies in the fact that the Saudis deem their Wahhabi version of Islam to be 'more perfect' than that of Sunnis or Shiites. They do not like the Shiites, they do not like the Sunnis. That smacks to me of the same lunacy of some of the Christian Dominionistas that think they found citations in the Bible that justify the US wars to conquer the entire world for Jesus Christ by military force.
I cannot wait to see the looks on their face when those Christians try to quitclaim their blood soaked deeds to Jesus Christ.
That oil is more important to DC than Saudi Wahhabi hatred for Americans and all other Westerners is something that Westerners need to educate themselves on. They even hate other brands of Islam and they really hate Christians and Orthodox Jews. I guess they like the Zionist Jews because they both want the same status quo in the Middle East and both are as morally corrupt.
I have to smile when the Saudis declare the West decadent, from the mouths of the world-class decadent.
They seem to love Zionist Jews, which is an oxymoron because Zionism is not a religion. Since Wahhabism is just as decadent, I have my doubts it is much of a religion either.
The Wahhabi version of Islam hates all non-Wahhabis including Americans, Iraqis, Iranians, etc. It literally teaches hate and extremism for all non-Wahhabis. They even teach such in US schools they control and finance, while Washington DC pretends the Saudis are our good buddies and they teach in America hatred for Americans. That they seem to be tolerant of the Zionist Jew agenda in the Middle East tells me much about what they truly are. Know them by their deeds.
There is nothing devout or righteous about the moral decadence of Zionist Israel. There is nothing devout or righteous about the moral decadence of the Saudi Royal family. Know them by their deeds.
Maybe we need to all sit back, let Israel attack Iran and watch the entire area get turned into a sheet of glass as the sand turns into glass from the exchange of nuclear weapons.
Russia has already stated that any attack on Iran will be viewed as an attack on the vital and strategic interests of Russia. Vladimir Putin could not have stated it any clearer than he did. China has never stated it that clearly, but they too have considerable vital and strategic interests in Iran as does India.
Americans need to wake up and understand that Russia, China, and India all have vested financial and strategic energy interests in Iran and Iranian oil and natural gas. The US is not the only nation with strategic interests, regardless of the lies from DC claiming so and the endless propaganda and twisting of truth. They will not sit still for a Zionist Jew, US, Saudi takeover of that oil, especially based on the lies they are telling to repeat the total destruction of Iraq for no reason other than they were building serious state infrastructure and building their way out of the Saudi version of the Middle Ages for the Islamic peoples of that region.
Iran is guilty of nothing at this time except building a real nation and using their national resources to do so. It is their nation, their land, their oil and natural gas. That means the greedy thugs in Tel Aviv, London, Wall Street, DC and Riyadh are not profiting from those Iranian resources.
There are Western-style shopping malls in Tehran, but Americans will never hear about that on US television as they craft the lies to go steal the resources of yet another nation.
Yeah, that is why the Zionist Jews and Saudis are good buddies. They both like the Middle Ages status quo of the Middle East, inhumanity, poverty and all that comes with it.
The Saudi Royals Are Traitors To Islam
By Karl Schwarz
9-30-9
The Rense website posted an article that states that the Saudis are okay with Israel attacking Iran and even using their airspace to do so. How accommodating! Sort of reminds me of the Saudis agreeing to let the US and UK launch a war at Iraq based on Bush 41 lies, just like Bush 43 did when he got into the Oval Office.
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Saudis will let Israel bomb Iran nuclear site nuclear-site
It raises the obvious question as to why an Islamic nation would endorse or offer support for any of the anti-Islamic racist actions of Israel, or the UK or the US towards Afghanistan, Iraq, the Palestinians, Lebanon, Iran or any other Islamic nation. Are we left to presume the Saudis are ok with such just as long as we do not regime change them, too?
The answer is quite simple. The Saudi royal families like their status quo whereby oil wealth flows only to the Royal Family and they dole out what they wish to their peon Saudi citizens. They do not want democracy, truth or anything that disrupts the flows of billions each month to the Royal Family and their perverse deviant pursuits.
The US pretends to be so intent on 'regime change' in the Middle East but keeps overlooking the sins and moral decadence of their good buddies in the Saudi Royal family.
The Saudis had the same problem with Iraq and why they have sat idly by while the US and UK have slaughtered over 1 million Iraqis on the basis of nothing but lies from the US, UK and their respective 'intelligence sources'.
Of course, the Saudis are more than willing to be such 'intelligence sources' if that means they keep the billions in oil pelf they get every year for playing along.
There was apparently no one in the Saudi Royal family that had a problem at all with this quote from a known Zionist Jew Neocon Edward Luttwak about why Iraq had to be destroyed in 1991:
Iran Is Still NOT The Problem
"Saddam is not like the Saudi Princes who spend the bulk of their lives outside of their country, and who fritter away the Kingdom's oil profits on prostitutes and bottles of champagne in Paris. No, Saddam is building railways! Creating electrical networks! Highways and other important elements of a serious State infrastructure! After eights years of war against the Iranian regime of Khomeini, he desperately needs to demobilize his Republican Guard, which incorporates so many of this technical elite, in order to rebuild the war-devastated country. These people are his technicians, his engineers. If they are put to work in the way Saddam wishes, they will rapidly make Iraq the most advanced power in the region, and we cannot allow this to happen."
They like to flaunt their billions in oil wealth while the Middle East world sinks lower into the pits and impoverishment just will not go away even with the tens of billions flowing in daily, weekly and monthly. They are quite OK in stomping on any Islamic nation that might show their citizens in Saudi Arabia that there is a different way to live without a bunch of decadent Royals running the show and squandering the wealth the oil brings in on prostitutes, living the Life of Riley, champagne, luxury personal jumbo jets, mansions, cars, etc.
Their political whore-ism to the US and Israel agendas in the Middle East is quite OK if some nation like Iraq or Iran tries to build a real nation and use the oil wealth for the benefit of their own citizens. That might show the Saudi citizens that it is time they get rid of the Royal Family and run a real democracy in Saudi Arabia.
I am not sure how many times I have to publicize that Edward Luttwak quote in 1991 before Americans wake up from their stupor and get it. Both Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom are because of that sort of policy development and asinine world view. That the US, UK, Saudis and Israelis can agree on such genocide of Islamic people should tell you all you need to know about what the true agenda is.
That centuries of impoverishment are not allowed to go away and people can have real lives, financial security, jobs, economic development, etc is all part of a joint Saudi, Israeli, UK and US agenda for the Middle East.
The agenda is oil, lining the right pockets and making sure that no nation in the Middle East develops as a serious contender to the Zionist Israel - Saudi - US - UK version of how things are to be.
The Iraq sin was they were using the oil wealth to build 'serious State infrastructure' and use that wealth for the benefit of Iraqis. Wow, that is evil, NOT! Iraq was building into a regional power and as a real European-style nation. That is what the 'serious State infrastructure' was all about. That just could not be allowed according to Israel and the Saudis, and their good buddies in Washington DC and London.
There was no WMD, no imminent threat to the US or any other nation and no connection to Al Qaeda and 9-11 whatsoever. Those US, UK and Israel assertions have all been emphatically proven to be premeditated lies.
The Iran sin is exactly the same in that the oil and natural gas wealth belongs to Iran, not the UK, US, Israel, or the Saudis.
As a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Iran has the absolute right to development of peaceful nuclear energy. As a non-signatory to that same treaty Israel does not have the international law right to possess its nuclear warhead stockpile or use it for blackmail, extortion and literal nuclear terrorism.
The IAEA says there is no Iran nuclear weapons program. Many inspections and surprise inspections have found no evidence of a nuclear weapons program. The CIA has admitted that Iran does not possess the capabilities and some who have left the CIA have gone public that there is absolutely no nuclear weapons program.
For the record, Israel does not allow the IAEA to inspect their Dimona nuclear weapons program, nuclear missiles, etc.
So, what is the problem with Iran?
The Iranians are setting a bad example that might wind up overthrowing the Saudis and their lock on the oil income of their nation that goes straight to the Royal Family. A national oil resource only belongs to the Royals, right? That is the Iranian sin, they are doing it for their people and that scares the Saudi Royals. They are afraid that the Saudi people might decide that 'regime change' is in their best interests.
I bet if one looks deep enough, the Saudis are all about controlling Iran oil wealth since theirs is depleting and the day is coming that they will be running out of cash flow for their perversions. They have probably cut themselves in on just about every planned deal after the US attacks Iran to steal those oil and natural gas assets. They are involved in the Caspian Basin and Afghanistan as Delta Oil and other Royal Family controlled companies that sound rather Western in name, not Islamic.
You can bet all you have that the Zionists Jews have already cut themselves into the Iranian oil, natural gas and uranium that they salivate like Pavlov dogs to control. They covet it just like their greedy elite friends in London, Wall Street and DC.
Anyone want to bet me on that? The Thomas Kean (9-11 Commission) led Amerada Hess is involved with Delta Oil (Saudi) in Azerbaijan and Caspian Sea. The Saudi controlled company was even involved in trying to get the Taliban to allow Delta Oil - Unocal to have the pipeline right of way across Afghanistan for $100 million a year. It is in the book I wrote, 'One-Way Ticket to Crawford Texas'.
My sources inform that the Saudis are also wedged into some of the Caspian Basin oil deals in Turkmenistan and now we are learning that Afghanistan and the Baluchistan area of Pakistan might be rich in oil and gas. That is the planned path of the IPI pipeline from Iran to Pakistan to India. It is also the planned path of the Afghanistan pipeline from Turkmenistan, if and when it ever happens.
Yeah, there are many in London, Tel Aviv, DC and even Riyadh salivating over being the sellers of that oil to Pakistan and India.
China has $400 billion in oil and gas deals with Iran and Iran is delivering. That money is not going to the greedy elite in London, Tel Aviv, DC and even Riyadh.
China has even built a port in the region and already the US is trying to figure out how they can take control of it, and Baluchistan, and Iran and still cannot get anything done in Iraq or Afghanistan.
I was curious why US oil companies were so in bed with the Saudis since it was supposedly a group of Saudi radicals that 'allegedly' attacked the United States on 9-11-2001. Seems oil makes for strange bedfellows.
The Saudis are very much like the Israelis in that they like the current status quo in the Middle East where the Israelis think they are top nuclear dog, with US bully backing, and the Saudi royals get to squander billions on any idiot idea or perversion they wish. The overall oil revenues in the Middle East could have eliminated poverty decades ago but there are some that prefer they have the wealth and the poverty remains and even the reasons that poverty causes terrorism as a means and strategy to make change happen.
In many ways, the Saudis are just as despicable as the Zionist Israelis in their wanton disregard for the human and humane rights of others in that entire region. With the oil wealth, the Middle East could be booming but certain parties want that wealth and their people get to eat cake, what little of it there is handed down from their not so benevolent Royal leaders.
When you extend that thought further that the Israelis specialize in about every form of human perversion and the Saudi Royal family is an endless series of human perversions on display, they are kin in more ways than just being Semites. They are both decadent and morally bankrupt.
Sort of like this Saudi Prince Alaweed bin Talal, who thinks he deserves an Airbus A380 jumbo jet as his private palace jet. The 747 evidently was not big enough. Does anyone deserve or need an Airbus A380 jumbo jet whore house as a private jet? If I were worth $500 billion a Falcon Jet would be sufficient.
They like that, hedonists that they are while pretending to be the strictest of the various Islamic factions as Wahhabis. They are very strict and even behead people for minor offenses yet never manage to fall on their own sword to punish their despicable conduct. They are just as morally corrupt as the Zionists that pretend to be devout Jews or the nitwits in the US that pretend to be good warmongering Christians.
Part of the problem lies in the fact that the Saudis deem their Wahhabi version of Islam to be 'more perfect' than that of Sunnis or Shiites. They do not like the Shiites, they do not like the Sunnis. That smacks to me of the same lunacy of some of the Christian Dominionistas that think they found citations in the Bible that justify the US wars to conquer the entire world for Jesus Christ by military force.
I cannot wait to see the looks on their face when those Christians try to quitclaim their blood soaked deeds to Jesus Christ.
That oil is more important to DC than Saudi Wahhabi hatred for Americans and all other Westerners is something that Westerners need to educate themselves on. They even hate other brands of Islam and they really hate Christians and Orthodox Jews. I guess they like the Zionist Jews because they both want the same status quo in the Middle East and both are as morally corrupt.
I have to smile when the Saudis declare the West decadent, from the mouths of the world-class decadent.
They seem to love Zionist Jews, which is an oxymoron because Zionism is not a religion. Since Wahhabism is just as decadent, I have my doubts it is much of a religion either.
The Wahhabi version of Islam hates all non-Wahhabis including Americans, Iraqis, Iranians, etc. It literally teaches hate and extremism for all non-Wahhabis. They even teach such in US schools they control and finance, while Washington DC pretends the Saudis are our good buddies and they teach in America hatred for Americans. That they seem to be tolerant of the Zionist Jew agenda in the Middle East tells me much about what they truly are. Know them by their deeds.
There is nothing devout or righteous about the moral decadence of Zionist Israel. There is nothing devout or righteous about the moral decadence of the Saudi Royal family. Know them by their deeds.
Maybe we need to all sit back, let Israel attack Iran and watch the entire area get turned into a sheet of glass as the sand turns into glass from the exchange of nuclear weapons.
Russia has already stated that any attack on Iran will be viewed as an attack on the vital and strategic interests of Russia. Vladimir Putin could not have stated it any clearer than he did. China has never stated it that clearly, but they too have considerable vital and strategic interests in Iran as does India.
Americans need to wake up and understand that Russia, China, and India all have vested financial and strategic energy interests in Iran and Iranian oil and natural gas. The US is not the only nation with strategic interests, regardless of the lies from DC claiming so and the endless propaganda and twisting of truth. They will not sit still for a Zionist Jew, US, Saudi takeover of that oil, especially based on the lies they are telling to repeat the total destruction of Iraq for no reason other than they were building serious state infrastructure and building their way out of the Saudi version of the Middle Ages for the Islamic peoples of that region.
Iran is guilty of nothing at this time except building a real nation and using their national resources to do so. It is their nation, their land, their oil and natural gas. That means the greedy thugs in Tel Aviv, London, Wall Street, DC and Riyadh are not profiting from those Iranian resources.
There are Western-style shopping malls in Tehran, but Americans will never hear about that on US television as they craft the lies to go steal the resources of yet another nation.
Yeah, that is why the Zionist Jews and Saudis are good buddies. They both like the Middle Ages status quo of the Middle East, inhumanity, poverty and all that comes with it.
