Are the Delhi Games doomed?
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The problem with firangs is this that they cannot tolerate the feeling if asians are doing better then them...all these noises will lay in rest...wait till the opening ceremony..they actually dont know by themselfs what poits they are saying...Earlier they said its the best games village ever seen till date now they have problems
so just wait and watch
Think you are being unfair in your criticism of the "firangs". The harshest criticism has come from fellow Indians & much of that is rightly deserved. Blaming "firang" mentality only serves to expose our own. Whether or not we can eventually pull off a houdini act is immaterial; this should never have been allowed to get to this point. Contrast this with London. The Olympics are still nearly two years away but most of the facilities are already ready. We could learn quite a lot from them or even the Chinese for that matter. They pulled off a great games with almost no hitches.
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If I was a foreigner participating in the Commonwealth Games - would I still be completely confident about going to Delhi? No. From bad toilets to terror attacks - I would rather be preparing for the next international event.
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"Delhi Games Doomed"? Na, i ain't fall for a trap like this again!
The way i look at," Indian's trick", "attract attention in the world with surprise"
An exact copy of the episode of India, the 3rd most powerful country in the world 2010, giving out fake data in 2009 like all those 1 out of 3 Indians live below poverty line, one of the lowest public health-care spending country ETC, and i fall for it and it caught me by surprise in 2010, not again please!!
Molawchal buddy, i have a feeling you are flowing with the tides? aren't you? how many times per day? "Grass on top of the wall"?
On topic: I still think the security of CWG might be an issue
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Don't judge a book by its cover....
C'mon give it a break... we are seeing a deluge of tirade criticizing India to the point of ridicule... no point starting a new thread everytime you come across a news article... just open one thread for the Indian Commonwealth Games and you can post everything on that thread... Moderators!
C'mon give it a break... we are seeing a deluge of tirade criticizing India to the point of ridicule... no point starting a new thread everytime you come across a news article... just open one thread for the Indian Commonwealth Games and you can post everything on that thread... Moderators!
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Salvage India's pride, postpone CWG to 2011
A Delhi-centric Games without regional involvement? At least 30% of tickets for the opening ceremony have been reserved for VIPs and VVIPs. Where is Bharat in this national pride? The format of the opening ceremony still not finalized? The signature tune has just been unveiled, but the Rs 70 crore floating aerostat is not certain and the central stage is yet to be built.
The Chinese were practicing the Olympics opening ceremony two years ahead. Nothing done to forestall the cyclical outbreak of dengue? It will peak in October. The Village on the Yamuna's floodplains will be vulnerable. Several participating countries have issued alerts. Outsourcing crucial aspects of the Games to foreigners at the expense of local talent including highly dubious sponsorship, baton relay deals?
Perhaps to keep crony kickbacks outside the purview of Indian taxmen? India Inc and MNCs shying from sponsorships; PSUs rethinking commitments? The failure to stem bad public manners spitting, littering and urinating?
Beijing's Spiritual Civilization Steering Committee successfully instilled civic sense in the city's inhabitants ahead of the 2008 Olympics. This is the state of affairs. Imagine where our much vaunted national pride would be if: once again, India wins only a handful of medals?
Potential home advantage does not exist because self-serving sports administrators have rarely nurtured India's sporting talent and infrastructure. In contrast, the Chinese withdrew from international competitions for more than a decade to develop home-grown sporting prowess, then modestly tested its mettle from the 1988 Seoul Olympics on. star (white) athletes continue to heed, lemming-like, the call of iconic Australian swimmer Dawn Fraser to pull out because of "lies" regarding the quality of venues and the possibility of another Munich?
A "world-class" venue structure collapses? Laggardly security arrangements allow a terrorist strike and inadequate quality control of catering forces embassies to import food for their athletes?
Empty grandstands flash up on worldwide TV? So far, just 20,000 of the overseas allocation of 1.7 lakh tickets have sold so far. And Delhi's residents display no visible interest in the event.
The 'worst ever' Games are in the offing. Matching Australia or South Africa is a pipe dream. Given the organizational disaster, a vortex of mishaps and glitches is inevitable. They will receive worldwide coverage. The objective of showcasing an emerging Asian power on the world stage is set to self-destruct.
Of late, the surreal optimism about hosting the "best ever" Games has given way to doing "our best". At last, there is implicit acknowledgement that an ignominious fortnight is on the cards. It is time to cut our losses.
The bottom line is that a systemic, nationwide malaise has been exposed. It could be a catalyst for declaring independence from incompetence, corruption and the arrogance embedded in DNA of the ruling class. Postponing the Games will give unambiguous notice to the tainted to Quit India.
It would be a non-violent Dandi moment for the aam admi. It would be a fitting homage to Gandhi's birth anniversary is October 2. And in the spirit of his values, Delhi's citizens could be forgiven for hoisting the national flag and writing to their elected representatives to declare: "We will not take it any more."
Salvage India's pride, postpone CWG to 2011 - The Times of India
A Delhi-centric Games without regional involvement? At least 30% of tickets for the opening ceremony have been reserved for VIPs and VVIPs. Where is Bharat in this national pride? The format of the opening ceremony still not finalized? The signature tune has just been unveiled, but the Rs 70 crore floating aerostat is not certain and the central stage is yet to be built.
The Chinese were practicing the Olympics opening ceremony two years ahead. Nothing done to forestall the cyclical outbreak of dengue? It will peak in October. The Village on the Yamuna's floodplains will be vulnerable. Several participating countries have issued alerts. Outsourcing crucial aspects of the Games to foreigners at the expense of local talent including highly dubious sponsorship, baton relay deals?
Perhaps to keep crony kickbacks outside the purview of Indian taxmen? India Inc and MNCs shying from sponsorships; PSUs rethinking commitments? The failure to stem bad public manners spitting, littering and urinating?
Beijing's Spiritual Civilization Steering Committee successfully instilled civic sense in the city's inhabitants ahead of the 2008 Olympics. This is the state of affairs. Imagine where our much vaunted national pride would be if: once again, India wins only a handful of medals?
Potential home advantage does not exist because self-serving sports administrators have rarely nurtured India's sporting talent and infrastructure. In contrast, the Chinese withdrew from international competitions for more than a decade to develop home-grown sporting prowess, then modestly tested its mettle from the 1988 Seoul Olympics on. star (white) athletes continue to heed, lemming-like, the call of iconic Australian swimmer Dawn Fraser to pull out because of "lies" regarding the quality of venues and the possibility of another Munich?
A "world-class" venue structure collapses? Laggardly security arrangements allow a terrorist strike and inadequate quality control of catering forces embassies to import food for their athletes?
Empty grandstands flash up on worldwide TV? So far, just 20,000 of the overseas allocation of 1.7 lakh tickets have sold so far. And Delhi's residents display no visible interest in the event.
The 'worst ever' Games are in the offing. Matching Australia or South Africa is a pipe dream. Given the organizational disaster, a vortex of mishaps and glitches is inevitable. They will receive worldwide coverage. The objective of showcasing an emerging Asian power on the world stage is set to self-destruct.
Of late, the surreal optimism about hosting the "best ever" Games has given way to doing "our best". At last, there is implicit acknowledgement that an ignominious fortnight is on the cards. It is time to cut our losses.
The bottom line is that a systemic, nationwide malaise has been exposed. It could be a catalyst for declaring independence from incompetence, corruption and the arrogance embedded in DNA of the ruling class. Postponing the Games will give unambiguous notice to the tainted to Quit India.
It would be a non-violent Dandi moment for the aam admi. It would be a fitting homage to Gandhi's birth anniversary is October 2. And in the spirit of his values, Delhi's citizens could be forgiven for hoisting the national flag and writing to their elected representatives to declare: "We will not take it any more."
Salvage India's pride, postpone CWG to 2011 - The Times of India
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my bet is on its doom. already have money on it 
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my bet is on its doom. already have money on it
wish every one is as optimistic as you (i wish with my heart )
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Heads should roll - people should be held accountable - with such attitudes as those that led to this failure and embarrassment, it's as if Indian officials went out of their way to ensure that this effort would fail.
September 21, 2010
Hopes Fade for Success of Commonwealth Games in India
By HEATHER TIMMONS
NEW DELHI Skepticism about Indias preparedness for the Commonwealth Games deepened Tuesday after a partly constructed footbridge collapsed outside the main arena for competition, injuring dozens.
The collapse coincided with angry words from visiting officials who described the accommodations for athletes as uninhabitable. One visitor, the head of the New Zealand delegation, even raised the possibility that the games might be delayed or canceled.
Indias failure to complete the work for the games, which are to begin Oct. 3 and last for two weeks, has become a major embarrassment for the country instead of a showcase for its rising economic might. The unspoken comparison to Indias rival China, which won widespread acclaim from its preparations for the 2008 Summer Olympics, are a further source of humiliation.
Representatives of the dozens of countries participating in the Commonwealth Games, a quadrennial competition among the nations of the former British Empire, started arriving here in recent days to inspect facilities and conduct security checks. The athletes village, built for the games, is not ready, they say, and questions linger about security after an attack on tourists in Delhi on Sunday.
On Tuesday afternoon, a bridge next to Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium, the main venue, fell apart. The footbridge collapsed into three pieces, taking several workers with it and uprooting one side of the arch that supported it.
A police officer at the scene said that 27 people had been injured, 4 seriously.
This will not affect the games, said Raj Kumar Chauhan, a Delhi minister for development, who spoke at the scene. We can put the bridge up again, or make a new one.
The accident occurred when workers were trying to pour concrete into a clip at the base of the bridge, he said, and the clip was loosened.
Games officials had lodged formal complaints about the preparations with Indias government even before the accident. The condition of the residential zone has shocked the majority, the Commonwealth Games Federation president, Michael Fennel, said in a statement Monday evening. Mr. Fennel said he had sent a letter to Indias union cabinet secretary. The athletes village is seriously compromised, he said.
The problems are arising because deadlines for the completion of the village have been consistently pushed out, Mr. Fennell said.
The village is uninhabitable, the Commonwealth Games Federation chief executive, Mike Hooper, told the local television channel CNN-IBN on Tuesday. There is dust everywhere, he said. The flats are dirty and ******. Toilets are unclean.
Construction of the village, built alongside the Yamuna River on Delhis eastern border, is severely behind schedule. Delhi built a series of apartment towers to house about 7,000 athletes and their families, a 2,300-seat cafeteria, and practice areas on land that was originally an empty plain.
Officials from the Ministry of Sports promised last year that the village would be ready in March 2010, but finishing touches were still being done outside buildings during a media tour last week. And the interiors of the buildings are still not completed, some say.
Dave Currie, the head of New Zealands Commonwealth Games team, said Tuesday in an interview with Newstalk ZB, a New Zealand radio station, that the condition of the athletes village was pretty grim.
Showers and toilets in the accommodations the New Zealand team was given are not working, and post-construction cleanup has not been done, he said. It is certainly disappointing considering the amount of time they have had, he said.
Athletes are scheduled to start arriving in Delhi on Thursday, but that date may need to be pushed back, Mr. Currie said, which could ultimately result in the competition being canceled. If the village is not ready, the athletes cannot arrive, he said.
There is a real mountain to climb before the village can be completed, Mr. Currie said. It will be a real challenge at this point to make it happen, he said.
Security at the games has also become a major concern after two tourists were shot outside the Jama Masjid, a mosque that is one of Delhis major attractions, on Sunday. Neither tourist was fatally injured, and the mosque is far from the venues or the athletes village, but the attack prompted new fears about Delhis ability to keep athletes and visitors safe during the games.
An e-mail sent to news outlets soon after the attack said the Indian Mujahedeen, a group the Indian government considers a terrorist organization, would single out the games.
Had it not happened against the almost complete disarray of the Commonwealth Games preparations, it would not have raised much excitement, said Ajai Sahni, the executive director of the Institute for Conflict Management, a group that studies terrorist activity. Athletes are worried that if construction and planning are in disarray, security may be too, he said.
Most venues were supposed to be completed in 2007, but workers were still putting finishing touches on many of them as well.
September 21, 2010
Hopes Fade for Success of Commonwealth Games in India
By HEATHER TIMMONS
NEW DELHI Skepticism about Indias preparedness for the Commonwealth Games deepened Tuesday after a partly constructed footbridge collapsed outside the main arena for competition, injuring dozens.
The collapse coincided with angry words from visiting officials who described the accommodations for athletes as uninhabitable. One visitor, the head of the New Zealand delegation, even raised the possibility that the games might be delayed or canceled.
Indias failure to complete the work for the games, which are to begin Oct. 3 and last for two weeks, has become a major embarrassment for the country instead of a showcase for its rising economic might. The unspoken comparison to Indias rival China, which won widespread acclaim from its preparations for the 2008 Summer Olympics, are a further source of humiliation.
Representatives of the dozens of countries participating in the Commonwealth Games, a quadrennial competition among the nations of the former British Empire, started arriving here in recent days to inspect facilities and conduct security checks. The athletes village, built for the games, is not ready, they say, and questions linger about security after an attack on tourists in Delhi on Sunday.
On Tuesday afternoon, a bridge next to Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium, the main venue, fell apart. The footbridge collapsed into three pieces, taking several workers with it and uprooting one side of the arch that supported it.
A police officer at the scene said that 27 people had been injured, 4 seriously.
This will not affect the games, said Raj Kumar Chauhan, a Delhi minister for development, who spoke at the scene. We can put the bridge up again, or make a new one.
The accident occurred when workers were trying to pour concrete into a clip at the base of the bridge, he said, and the clip was loosened.
Games officials had lodged formal complaints about the preparations with Indias government even before the accident. The condition of the residential zone has shocked the majority, the Commonwealth Games Federation president, Michael Fennel, said in a statement Monday evening. Mr. Fennel said he had sent a letter to Indias union cabinet secretary. The athletes village is seriously compromised, he said.
The problems are arising because deadlines for the completion of the village have been consistently pushed out, Mr. Fennell said.
The village is uninhabitable, the Commonwealth Games Federation chief executive, Mike Hooper, told the local television channel CNN-IBN on Tuesday. There is dust everywhere, he said. The flats are dirty and ******. Toilets are unclean.
Construction of the village, built alongside the Yamuna River on Delhis eastern border, is severely behind schedule. Delhi built a series of apartment towers to house about 7,000 athletes and their families, a 2,300-seat cafeteria, and practice areas on land that was originally an empty plain.
Officials from the Ministry of Sports promised last year that the village would be ready in March 2010, but finishing touches were still being done outside buildings during a media tour last week. And the interiors of the buildings are still not completed, some say.
Dave Currie, the head of New Zealands Commonwealth Games team, said Tuesday in an interview with Newstalk ZB, a New Zealand radio station, that the condition of the athletes village was pretty grim.
Showers and toilets in the accommodations the New Zealand team was given are not working, and post-construction cleanup has not been done, he said. It is certainly disappointing considering the amount of time they have had, he said.
Athletes are scheduled to start arriving in Delhi on Thursday, but that date may need to be pushed back, Mr. Currie said, which could ultimately result in the competition being canceled. If the village is not ready, the athletes cannot arrive, he said.
There is a real mountain to climb before the village can be completed, Mr. Currie said. It will be a real challenge at this point to make it happen, he said.
Security at the games has also become a major concern after two tourists were shot outside the Jama Masjid, a mosque that is one of Delhis major attractions, on Sunday. Neither tourist was fatally injured, and the mosque is far from the venues or the athletes village, but the attack prompted new fears about Delhis ability to keep athletes and visitors safe during the games.
An e-mail sent to news outlets soon after the attack said the Indian Mujahedeen, a group the Indian government considers a terrorist organization, would single out the games.
Had it not happened against the almost complete disarray of the Commonwealth Games preparations, it would not have raised much excitement, said Ajai Sahni, the executive director of the Institute for Conflict Management, a group that studies terrorist activity. Athletes are worried that if construction and planning are in disarray, security may be too, he said.
Most venues were supposed to be completed in 2007, but workers were still putting finishing touches on many of them as well.
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doomed dont know but for time being CWGs are gloomed for Indians
Please merge these thread
the following has detailed posts and reports on the gloom doom
http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/73446-currie-cwg-could-called-off-11.html#post1150858
Please merge these thread
the following has detailed posts and reports on the gloom doom
http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/73446-currie-cwg-could-called-off-11.html#post1150858
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England 'could pull out of Games'
(UKPA) 32 minutes ago
England's participation in the Commonwealth Games has been thrown into doubt after a stadium bridge collapsed, two top athletes withdrew from the competition and a third threatened to pull out.
With just 11 days until the start of the Delhi Games, the head of England's team demanded guarantees of safety for competitors after 27 workers were injured, five of them seriously, when a major walkway connecting a stadium to a car park in New Delhi collapsed on Tuesday.
The departure of Scotland's athletes to the Commonwealth Games has been delayed after fears over the readiness of the accommodation. Team Scotland's first party of 41 athletes and staff, including boxing, rugby 7s and wrestling, were due to fly out on Thursday but the travel plans have been postponed.
Olympic 400 metres champion Christine Ohuruogu announced she would not be competing for England after suffering from cramp at a training session last weekend. Lisa Dobriskey, who won the 1,500m title at the Commonwealth Games in Melbourne, also chose to quit the Games after suffering from injuries throughout the season.
Meanwhile, Phillips Idowu looked set to become the third high-profile English athlete to pull out. The world triple jump champion wrote on his Twitter account that he was too concerned about safety at the site to take part. However, his agent Ricky Simms said on Tuesday night that a firm decision had not yet been made and that he advised his client to sleep on it.
Head of the England team Craig Hunter, who has also highlighted concerns about the athletes' village, is demanding reassurances from organisers and warned that "time is beginning to run out" before the Games begin.
There are fears some teams could pull out of the Indian Games due to substandard accommodation, with 60 of the 260 rooms set aside for English athletes not watertight, and a major cleaning programme needed throughout.
Mr Hunter said the team remains "committed to participating", but added: "It's hard to cancel an event of this magnitude but we are close to the wire, and teams may start to take things into their own hands. Athletes will start getting on planes soon and decisions will have to be made. We need new levels of reassurance."
Sir Andrew Foster, chairman of Commonwealth Games England, said he is "very concerned" about the preparations being made for the event.
A decision about England's participation will be made on Wednesday or Thursday as the safety and security of the site is assessed.
Copyright © 2010 The Press Association. All rights reserved.
The Press Association: England 'could pull out of Games'
(UKPA) 32 minutes ago
England's participation in the Commonwealth Games has been thrown into doubt after a stadium bridge collapsed, two top athletes withdrew from the competition and a third threatened to pull out.
With just 11 days until the start of the Delhi Games, the head of England's team demanded guarantees of safety for competitors after 27 workers were injured, five of them seriously, when a major walkway connecting a stadium to a car park in New Delhi collapsed on Tuesday.
The departure of Scotland's athletes to the Commonwealth Games has been delayed after fears over the readiness of the accommodation. Team Scotland's first party of 41 athletes and staff, including boxing, rugby 7s and wrestling, were due to fly out on Thursday but the travel plans have been postponed.
Olympic 400 metres champion Christine Ohuruogu announced she would not be competing for England after suffering from cramp at a training session last weekend. Lisa Dobriskey, who won the 1,500m title at the Commonwealth Games in Melbourne, also chose to quit the Games after suffering from injuries throughout the season.
Meanwhile, Phillips Idowu looked set to become the third high-profile English athlete to pull out. The world triple jump champion wrote on his Twitter account that he was too concerned about safety at the site to take part. However, his agent Ricky Simms said on Tuesday night that a firm decision had not yet been made and that he advised his client to sleep on it.
Head of the England team Craig Hunter, who has also highlighted concerns about the athletes' village, is demanding reassurances from organisers and warned that "time is beginning to run out" before the Games begin.
There are fears some teams could pull out of the Indian Games due to substandard accommodation, with 60 of the 260 rooms set aside for English athletes not watertight, and a major cleaning programme needed throughout.
Mr Hunter said the team remains "committed to participating", but added: "It's hard to cancel an event of this magnitude but we are close to the wire, and teams may start to take things into their own hands. Athletes will start getting on planes soon and decisions will have to be made. We need new levels of reassurance."
Sir Andrew Foster, chairman of Commonwealth Games England, said he is "very concerned" about the preparations being made for the event.
A decision about England's participation will be made on Wednesday or Thursday as the safety and security of the site is assessed.
Copyright © 2010 The Press Association. All rights reserved.
The Press Association: England 'could pull out of Games'
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"Delhi Games Doomed"? Na, i ain't fall for a trap like this again!
The way i look at," Indian's trick", "attract attention in the world with surprise"
An exact copy of the episode of India, the 3rd most powerful country in the world 2010, giving out fake data in 2009 like all those 1 out of 3 Indians live below poverty line, one of the lowest public health-care spending country ETC, and i fall for it and it caught me by surprise in 2010, not again please!!
I know. India always have lots of surprises for us.
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wish every one is as optimistic as you (i wish with my heart )
this article is meant for u
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...enjoys-veto-power-over-pakistans-progress-580
With eye on global role, India moving beyond Pakistan - Arab News
It is unfitting, improper, and probably wrong to parallel Westerners reaction to Chinas Olympics with that to Indias CWG.
Western media criticism of Chinas Olympics are basically ideological crusade.
Western media criticism of Indias CWG preparation is questioning Indias capability of organizational and engineering.
Those are two different things.
I have posted the similar in another thread.
BTW, "doomed" seems too strong a word.
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