Are The Arabs Finally Waking Up To The Atrocities In India!

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Take any Arab nation, at all levels there is an exceeding contribution of Indians.

Very soon you will claim the Silicon Valley,NASA,Amazon and other high tech all Indian made.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Silicon Valley shifted to India long time ago, take a look

All i can see is a call center, i get calls from them everyday.....

Silicon Valley shifted to India long time ago, take a look

Although Bangalore is doing quite good in IT sector, one must thank the efforts of Chander Babu Naidu(Telugu Desham).

 

[rishav]

Although Bangalore is doing quite good in IT sector, one must thank the efforts of Chander Babu Naidu(Telugu Desham)

CBN had a part to play in the rise of bengaluru ?

 

[AbuUmar]

I have zero expectations from them, Arabs have a very strong sense of nationalism, they couldn't do anything for their fellow Arab brethren in Palestine, why do you think they will help Indian Muslims or Kashmiri people. They are used to a life of comfort now, they will do some armchair activism but there will be no concrete action rest assured.

 

[PakFactor]

I have zero expectations from them, Arabs have a very strong sense of nationalism, they couldn't do anything for their fellow Arab brethren in Palestine, why do you think they will help Indian Muslims or Kashmiri people. They are used to a life of comfort now, they will do some armchair activism but there will be no concrete action rest assured.

I'm interested in knowing why you have both indian and Pakistani flag.

 

[AbuUmar]

I'm interesting in knowing why you have both indian and Pakistani flag.

Kashmiri trapped between 2

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Many argue that the Arab States are basically lethargic,docile,impotent and inefficient regarding their efforts to voice concerns on the atrocities been committed to their fellow Muslims in India. They may be right ,but some in their Elite power structure MAYBE just had enough. Recently i have witnessed a massive Social Media war going on between the Arabs and Indians regarding the plight of the Muslims there. Some have raised the slogan of kicking all the Indians out of the Gulf,to teach them a lesson!! Below are a few tweets on the social media ,raising voice on the atrocities in India.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1254042126070972422

https://twitter.com/x/status/1251770460460576768

https://twitter.com/x/status/1253772890736078849

https://twitter.com/x/status/1253737262568931332

https://twitter.com/x/status/1253642722633809921

https://twitter.com/x/status/1253732017751175169

There are hundreds of more tweets but mostly in Arabic. I do see some paradigm shift in the Arabian mood. If they take a firm stance billions of dollars of remittance can be halted to India.Had the King Faisal of Saudi Arab been alive ,he would have declared a war against India by now.Lets hope the Arabs stay awake and turn the tide for their fellow brothers.
https://twitter.com/Mohdalmulla67/status/1253379313526767616

dont keep expectations

 

[PakFactor]

Kashmiri trapped between 2

You a Pakistani in my eyes.

 

[Malik Alpha]

Kashmiri trapped between 2

I am a Kashmiri too but I don't feel trapped with Pakistan. We belong to Allah and then Pakistan where other Muslim ethnicities live in peace and harmony and Kashmiris are a part of it.

 

[AbuUmar]

I am a Kashmiri too but I don't feel trapped with Pakistan. We belong to Allah and then Pakistan where other Muslim ethnicities live in peace and harmony and Kashmiris are a part of it.

I assume you are from Azad Kashmir, otherwise you wouldn't have said something like this. Talk to any Kashmiri from IOK their first option will never be integration with Pakistan anymore, in the past there were many specially after 1990 even until Musharraf back stabbed the Kashmir cause, the fact that he was willing to compromise on all of IOK & accept LOC as permanent shows how dear Pakistan holds the Kashmir cause. Now most people on ground view Pakistan as the best of the worst options, whatever supporters Pakistan still had are gone after August 5 fiasco, most Pakistanis still believe there is a curfew here. Everything is back to normal, as normal as it can be under occupation, Pakistan has no intention to do something to change the ground situation nor is it in any position to do anything, they will keep shouting sheh rug sheh rug but that is about it, so it shows that they have gone back to Musharraf's plan & basically made LOC permanent.

Pakistan has no identity of its own, it has lost its purpose. If you look at most countries they are almost always defined by race or language, Pakistans's founders rejected both & was formed only & only the basis of religion, but the modern nation state of Pakistan has become almost same as India, the same laws, same economic system, same corrupt media, same corrupt rulers, same governance system, same racist culture there is no difference, if you had to do all this why did you struggle for independence in the first place. Then comes India, don't even get me started on them, they are the most uncultured & deluded bunch ever, even the educated class having doctorates from Harvard, Oxbridge etc won't stop with their Bharat Mata BS. In short, at STATE level there is zero difference between India & Pakistan, therefore most Kashmiri feel indifferent especially at the present time. Why else do you thing there were no protests after India scrapped autonomy last year? People see it as a pointless exercise to resist Indian occupation as Pakistan has completely stopped supporting the armed struggle & without help it is impossible & pointless to do anything.

 

[Malik Alpha]

I assume you are from Azad Kashmir, otherwise you wouldn't have said something like this. Talk to any Kashmiri from IOK their first option will never be integration with Pakistan anymore, in the past there were many specially after 1990 even until Musharraf back stabbed the Kashmir cause, the fact that he was willing to compromise on all of IOK & accept LOC as permanent shows how dear Pakistan holds the Kashmir cause. Now most people on ground view Pakistan as the best of the worst options, whatever supporters Pakistan still had are gone after August 5 fiasco, most Pakistanis still believe there is a curfew here. Everything is back to normal, as normal as it can be under occupation, Pakistan has no intention to do something to change the ground situation nor is it in any position to do anything, they will keep shouting sheh rug sheh rug but that is about it, so it shows that they have gone back to Musharraf's plan & basically made LOC permanent.

Pakistan has no identity of its own, it has lost its purpose. If you look at most countries they are almost always defined by race or language, Pakistans's founders rejected both & was formed only & only the basis of religion, but the modern nation state of Pakistan has become almost same as India, the same laws, same economic system, same corrupt media, same corrupt rulers, same governance system, same racist culture there is no difference, if you had to do all this why did you struggle for independence in the first place. Then comes India, don't even get me started on them, they are the most uncultured & deluded bunch ever, even the educated class having doctorates from Harvard, Oxbridge etc won't stop with their Bharat Mata BS. In short, at STATE level there is zero difference between India & Pakistan, therefore most Kashmiri feel indifferent especially at the present time. Why else do you thing there were no protests after India scrapped autonomy last year? People see it as a pointless exercise to resist Indian occupation as Pakistan has completely stopped supporting the armed struggle & without help it is impossible & pointless to do anything.

Brother I agree with most of the things you said in your post but in your previous post you criticised Arabs for nationalism and living in the comfort zone and then you wish nationalism for Kashmir. Yes Pakistan is not founded on race or language which itself is a great example of unity of Ummah. Even if we had corrupt leaders, our people always wanted the best for Kashmiris. I bet if there is a plebiscite and Kashmiris decide to be an independent state, majority of Pakistanis would support this decision. You are turning blind eye to thousands of martyred Pakistanis and wars against India for Kashmir just because of one dictator who damaged the cause. He is gone and never coming back.

 

[AbuUmar]

Brother I agree with most of the things you said in your post but in your previous post you criticised Arabs for nationalism and living in the comfort zone and then you wish nationalism for Kashmir. Yes Pakistan is not founded on race or language which itself is a great example of unity of Ummah. Even if we had corrupt leaders, our people always wanted the best for Kashmiris. I bet if there is a plebiscite and Kashmiris decide to be an independent state, majority of Pakistanis would support this decision. You are turning blind eye to thousands of martyred Pakistanis and wars against India for Kashmir just because of one dictator who damaged the cause. He is gone and never coming back.

I don't wish nationalism for Kashmir, you missed the point i am trying to make, when Kashmiri people fight against India we say "Pakistan se rishta kya, la illa ha ilallah", the thing i am trying to say is that why should Kashmiri people die for independence when we will just be under the same British colonial system as we are under now in India, realistically speaking the only thing that will change is the flow of people, everything else will remain same, same justice system, same laws etc, only instead of bihari and haryanvi people we will have sindhi or baloch people as visitors, that's it, i would hardly call that independence or Azadi. Had India respected the autonomy of Kashmir nobody would have fought against them & things would have been similar to before 1990, but due to their hatred of Muslims they have self sabotaged themselves, they could have competed with China in development but they are busy with 100 mujahideen in Kashmir from last 30 years, nothing will change on ground, Kashmiri people won't accept India ever that is given but majority also have no appetite to fight, now with the change in laws they will move slowly to Kashmir & the whole Kashmir issue will be forgotten within next 3 decades, of course they can't settle in Kashmir immediately because they will be slaughtered by the mujahideen but eventually they will simply because of their numbers.

It is not about one dictator, ever since general zia was assassinated no other leader be it a dictator or an elected one has done anything for Kashmir, Nawaz Sharif, Zaradari, Musharaf, Imran Khan? UN will give you nothing, IK is not stupid to not know this, but he has given up and that is the reality of it, of course he can't say that openly because he will lose the next election, no Pakistani politician can say openly that we give up Kashmir what will bilawal do for Kashmir, he was shouting "Kashmir baech diya niyazi nein" or what will Nawaz sharif do, he can't even speak without a parchi.

People have to introspect, Arabs won't boycott Indians they don't have the balls to do that, they have to sell oil otherwise they will starve, India cannot integrate Kashmir fully by force so it will settle its own people there and finish the whole issue, it will never catch up with China because it has a very narrow window to do this due to its youth bulge, modi has made India focused on Hindu-Muslim hatred which will ensure that India can't utilize its demographic advantages, Indians like to brag a lot but reality is they are a 3rd world shithole of a country with most people having no access to toilets or running water(on paper India is open defecation free, reality is however very different), their weapons which they keep bragging about are all Russian copies Brahmos, Aircraft Carrier, Submarines etc everything is Russian licensed locally assembled renamed copy which they brag as indigenous & Russia gives them these weapons because it needs India's money as can be seen from Russian-India SU-57 partnership, after India withdrew Russia can't buy SU 57 in numbers even for themselves because without India subsidizing it the aircraft is too expensive, India likes to think of itself as a huge world economic power but the thing it is only due to its population that it has any importance at world stage, its GDP is half that of Japan which is 10 times smaller in population, they have an inferiority complex because Muslims ruled over them for a 1000 years so they now try to overcompensate, coming to Pakistan, it can't support Kashmir cause because it is weak internally on the verge of break up & externally due to its economic problems & image as a terrorist country has no say on world stage, Kashmiri mujahideen can only keep India busy & prevent it from becoming an economic powerhouse because Kashmir has become an ego thing for Indians now, even if half of their population sleeps empty stomach they will not accept kashmir freedom so this will work against them in long run when coupled with modi's Muslim hatred, they will continue to spend billions without anything to show for it buying foreign weapons knowing fully well they can't go to full scale war (small scale skirmishes will continue) with either Pakistan or China due to both of them having nukes & in the end they will have to negotiate some settlement & stop it from having a free hand & delay the settlement of street shitting Indians in the valley. Better everyone accept the reality of drop down their expectations.

Arabs won't & can't help Indian Muslims.
India is not a superpower, can't compete with China as long as there is hatred in the society, which is there to stay because 200 million Muslims won't vanish overnight.
Pakistan won't & can't help Kashmiris.
There will be no exchange of territories neither can India take Azad Kashmir nor can Pakistan take India occupied Kashmir.

 

[Malik Alpha]

I don't wish nationalism for Kashmir, you missed the point i am trying to make, when Kashmiri people fight against India we say "Pakistan se rishta kya, la illa ha ilallah", the thing i am trying to say is that why should Kashmiri people die for independence when we will just be under the same British colonial system as we are under now in India, realistically speaking the only thing that will change is the flow of people, everything else will remain same, same justice system, same laws etc, only instead of bihari and haryanvi people we will have sindhi or baloch people as visitors, that's it, i would hardly call that independence or Azadi. Had India respected the autonomy of Kashmir nobody would have fought against them & things would have been similar to before 1990, but due to their hatred of Muslims they have self sabotaged themselves, they could have competed with China in development but they are busy with 100 mujahideen in Kashmir from last 30 years, nothing will change on ground, Kashmiri people won't accept India ever that is given but majority also have no appetite to fight, now with the change in laws they will move slowly to Kashmir & the whole Kashmir issue will be forgotten within next 3 decades, of course they can't settle in Kashmir immediately because they will be slaughtered by the mujahideen but eventually they will simply because of their numbers.

It is not about one dictator, ever since general zia was assassinated no other leader be it a dictator or an elected one has done anything for Kashmir, Nawaz Sharif, Zaradari, Musharaf, Imran Khan? UN will give you nothing, IK is not stupid to not know this, but he has given up and that is the reality of it, of course he can't say that openly because he will lose the next election, no Pakistani politician can say openly that we give up Kashmir what will bilawal do for Kashmir, he was shouting "Kashmir baech diya niyazi nein" or what will Nawaz sharif do, he can't even speak without a parchi.

People have to introspect, Arabs won't boycott Indians they don't have the balls to do that, they have to sell oil otherwise they will starve, India cannot integrate Kashmir fully by force so it will settle its own people there and finish the whole issue, it will never catch up with China because it has a very narrow window to do this due to its youth bulge, modi has made India focused on Hindu-Muslim hatred which will ensure that India can't utilize its demographic advantages, Indians like to brag a lot but reality is they are a 3rd world shithole of a country with most people having no access to toilets or running water(on paper India is open defecation free, reality is however very different), their weapons which they keep bragging about are all Russian copies Brahmos, Aircraft Carrier, Submarines etc everything is Russian licensed locally assembled renamed copy which they brag as indigenous & Russia gives them these weapons because it needs India's money as can be seen from Russian-India SU-57 partnership, after India withdrew Russia can't buy SU 57 in numbers even for themselves because without India subsidizing it the aircraft is too expensive, India likes to think of itself as a huge world economic power but the thing it is only due to its population that it has any importance at world stage, its GDP is half that of Japan which is 10 times smaller in population, they have an inferiority complex because Muslims ruled over them for a 1000 years so they now try to overcompensate, coming to Pakistan, it can't support Kashmir cause because it is weak internally on the verge of break up & externally due to its economic problems & image as a terrorist country has no say on world stage, Kashmiri mujahideen can only keep India busy & prevent it from becoming an economic powerhouse because Kashmir has become an ego thing for Indians now, even if half of their population sleeps empty stomach they will not accept kashmir freedom so this will work against them in long run when coupled with modi's Muslim hatred, they will continue to spend billions without anything to show for it buying foreign weapons knowing fully well they can't go to full scale war (small scale skirmishes will continue) with either Pakistan or China due to both of them having nukes & in the end they will have to negotiate some settlement & stop it from having a free hand & delay the settlement of street shitting Indians in the valley. Better everyone accept the reality of drop down their expectations.

Arabs won't & can't help Indian Muslims.
India is not a superpower, can't compete with China as long as there is hatred in the society, which is there to stay because 200 million Muslims won't vanish overnight.
Pakistan won't & can't help Kashmiris.
There will be no exchange of territories neither can India take Azad Kashmir nor can Pakistan take India occupied Kashmir.

This is truly a sad situation but I believe in Modi's stupidity. He will do something stupid which will lead to an all out war and then we can free the rest of Kashmir. Dialogues happen with civilized people, Indians are far from that.

 

[Kaniska]

What is happening in India is definitely reprehensible.

But for Arabs to interfere is a different thing. Arabs haven't yet solved the Israel-Palestine problem. Also, everyone knows what is happening in Arabian Iraq and Syria so for them pointing fingers to India is odd.

Enjoy the thread...It is just point scoring by Pakistani twitterrati foe India here...
India should take care of its people irrespective of other nations..

I don't wish nationalism for Kashmir, you missed the point i am trying to make, when Kashmiri people fight against India we say "Pakistan se rishta kya, la illa ha ilallah", the thing i am trying to say is that why should Kashmiri people die for independence when we will just be under the same British colonial system as we are under now in India, realistically speaking the only thing that will change is the flow of people, everything else will remain same, same justice system, same laws etc, only instead of bihari and haryanvi people we will have sindhi or baloch people as visitors, that's it, i would hardly call that independence or Azadi. Had India respected the autonomy of Kashmir nobody would have fought against them & things would have been similar to before 1990, but due to their hatred of Muslims they have self sabotaged themselves, they could have competed with China in development but they are busy with 100 mujahideen in Kashmir from last 30 years, nothing will change on ground, Kashmiri people won't accept India ever that is given but majority also have no appetite to fight, now with the change in laws they will move slowly to Kashmir & the whole Kashmir issue will be forgotten within next 3 decades, of course they can't settle in Kashmir immediately because they will be slaughtered by the mujahideen but eventually they will simply because of their numbers.

It is not about one dictator, ever since general zia was assassinated no other leader be it a dictator or an elected one has done anything for Kashmir, Nawaz Sharif, Zaradari, Musharaf, Imran Khan? UN will give you nothing, IK is not stupid to not know this, but he has given up and that is the reality of it, of course he can't say that openly because he will lose the next election, no Pakistani politician can say openly that we give up Kashmir what will bilawal do for Kashmir, he was shouting "Kashmir baech diya niyazi nein" or what will Nawaz sharif do, he can't even speak without a parchi.

People have to introspect, Arabs won't boycott Indians they don't have the balls to do that, they have to sell oil otherwise they will starve, India cannot integrate Kashmir fully by force so it will settle its own people there and finish the whole issue, it will never catch up with China because it has a very narrow window to do this due to its youth bulge, modi has made India focused on Hindu-Muslim hatred which will ensure that India can't utilize its demographic advantages, Indians like to brag a lot but reality is they are a 3rd world shithole of a country with most people having no access to toilets or running water(on paper India is open defecation free, reality is however very different), their weapons which they keep bragging about are all Russian copies Brahmos, Aircraft Carrier, Submarines etc everything is Russian licensed locally assembled renamed copy which they brag as indigenous & Russia gives them these weapons because it needs India's money as can be seen from Russian-India SU-57 partnership, after India withdrew Russia can't buy SU 57 in numbers even for themselves because without India subsidizing it the aircraft is too expensive, India likes to think of itself as a huge world economic power but the thing it is only due to its population that it has any importance at world stage, its GDP is half that of Japan which is 10 times smaller in population, they have an inferiority complex because Muslims ruled over them for a 1000 years so they now try to overcompensate, coming to Pakistan, it can't support Kashmir cause because it is weak internally on the verge of break up & externally due to its economic problems & image as a terrorist country has no say on world stage, Kashmiri mujahideen can only keep India busy & prevent it from becoming an economic powerhouse because Kashmir has become an ego thing for Indians now, even if half of their population sleeps empty stomach they will not accept kashmir freedom so this will work against them in long run when coupled with modi's Muslim hatred, they will continue to spend billions without anything to show for it buying foreign weapons knowing fully well they can't go to full scale war (small scale skirmishes will continue) with either Pakistan or China due to both of them having nukes & in the end they will have to negotiate some settlement & stop it from having a free hand & delay the settlement of street shitting Indians in the valley. Better everyone accept the reality of drop down their expectations.

Arabs won't & can't help Indian Muslims.
India is not a superpower, can't compete with China as long as there is hatred in the society, which is there to stay because 200 million Muslims won't vanish overnight.
Pakistan won't & can't help Kashmiris.
There will be no exchange of territories neither can India take Azad Kashmir nor can Pakistan take India occupied Kashmir.

India will never trade Kashmir for sake of development...There may be a day where Indian people might trade off land for China but never any Indian leader will trade of Kashmir for development...

 

[masterchief_mirza]

I assume you are from Azad Kashmir, otherwise you wouldn't have said something like this. Talk to any Kashmiri from IOK their first option will never be integration with Pakistan anymore, in the past there were many specially after 1990 even until Musharraf back stabbed the Kashmir cause, the fact that he was willing to compromise on all of IOK & accept LOC as permanent shows how dear Pakistan holds the Kashmir cause. Now most people on ground view Pakistan as the best of the worst options, whatever supporters Pakistan still had are gone after August 5 fiasco, most Pakistanis still believe there is a curfew here. Everything is back to normal, as normal as it can be under occupation, Pakistan has no intention to do something to change the ground situation nor is it in any position to do anything, they will keep shouting sheh rug sheh rug but that is about it, so it shows that they have gone back to Musharraf's plan & basically made LOC permanent.

Pakistan has no identity of its own, it has lost its purpose. If you look at most countries they are almost always defined by race or language, Pakistans's founders rejected both & was formed only & only the basis of religion, but the modern nation state of Pakistan has become almost same as India, the same laws, same economic system, same corrupt media, same corrupt rulers, same governance system, same racist culture there is no difference, if you had to do all this why did you struggle for independence in the first place. Then comes India, don't even get me started on them, they are the most uncultured & deluded bunch ever, even the educated class having doctorates from Harvard, Oxbridge etc won't stop with their Bharat Mata BS. In short, at STATE level there is zero difference between India & Pakistan, therefore most Kashmiri feel indifferent especially at the present time. Why else do you thing there were no protests after India scrapped autonomy last year? People see it as a pointless exercise to resist Indian occupation as Pakistan has completely stopped supporting the armed struggle & without help it is impossible & pointless to do anything.

Firstly Pakistan was intended as a safe haven for Muslims of the subcontinent, not as an Islamic state. Jinnah did not envision a theocratic state upon partition. This is a common fallacy among Indian-educated individuals to assume that Pakistan was always intended to be an Islamic state. Pakistan may not even have been necessary if Indian hindutva types had not become so incorrigible with hatred stemming from the inferiority complex you yourself discussed later.

Secondly, your assumption that all Pakistani leaders want to sell out IoK based on the actions of just one dictator is an odd assumption to make and is more a case of someone who has already made his mind up that "Pakistanis are untrustworthy and don't genuinely want freedom for Kashmiris" because of some Indian state level brainwashing of the same myth.

It is simply not the case that Pakistanis have sold out or intend to sell out the kashmiri cause. It remains a primal injustice and a cardinal sin committed in 1947 for motives most malevolent and by actors most conspiratorial. Let us not dwell for now on those details. Suffice to say that Pakistanis stand with Kashmiris on both sides of the ceasefire line, and our leaders are not all the same as one another - some have acted in good faith, others not so much, and that is inevitably the case in any long and protracted conflict, hence the generalisations you have made would seem inconsistent to me.

Pakistan - with an integrated Kashmir or trading with a fully independent Kashmir - would become very prosperous if peace were attainable and sustainable on our eastern borders. You'd be surprised at the determination of many to make good on the Quaid's vision.