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Indefinite detention: 'Architecture of fascist state'

Published: 15 December, 2011, 11:31
Edited: 15 December, 2011, 16:18

PAUL J. RICHARDS / AFP

Indefinite detention: 'Architecture of fascist state' — RT


Terror suspects in America could be held in prison indefinitely – without charge or trial. The military will be able to take custody of alleged terrorists virtually without question. Critics say this would be a stark violation of human rights.

*The controversial National Defense Authorization Act, which was met with criticism from human rights activists, faced a presidential veto, but since last month Obama has retracted his warning.

“The White House explained it would veto the bill because these provisions, mandating military custody amount to a restriction of president’s authority,” explains John Glaser, assistant editor at Antiwar.com.

“But in truth it’s reasonable to assume that a veto threat was a mere political theater, because Senator Carl Levin one of the provision’s primary authors revealed during senate debate that it was the Obama administration itself who requested the inclusion of language mandating military detentions, including US citizens. So you could say the administration never changed their minds, it was just a sort of doing it for public consumption,” he told RT.

Obama’s current position is in sharp contrast to the promises to shut down Guantanamo Bay he gave during the election campaign.

“I am skeptical it was ever Obama’s plan to actually do that. He faced some congressional backlash for wanting to close Guantanamo Bay so early, but he has already agreed to indefinite detention of people that are left into Guantanamo. And that bill has within it language that would prevent transfer from Guantanamo to US prisons and any sort of US trials for people, who are still at Guantanamo right now. I think people were just fooled by Obama’s promises, regarding Guantanamo,” the activists pointed out.

Radio host, Ralph Schoenman says that under the new law the US military will be entitled to “disappear” American citizens for offences that are never even made public – and not only that.


“If you look carefully at this legislation, if you have a family or a friend who publicizes that you’ve disappeared they too can be detained. If anybody helps you with a taxi ride or attempts to give assistance to your family in the circumstances of your disappearance, they too can be detained. This is the architecture of the fascist state,” he told RT.
 
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This forum is indeed quite strange.It is the only forum where I come across posts like:
1)US is a fascist state(It is the US which defeated Nazis & Fascists).
2)US is a terrorist state(US is engaged in War on terrorism & has sacrificed thousands of life)
3)US will soon collapse(Deserves nothing more than a :lol:)
 
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This forum is indeed quite strange.It is the only forum where I come across posts like:
1)US is a fascist state(It is the US which defeated Nazis & Fascists).

So you are saying that now US has cleansed itself from all sins by that single action alone?

FYI it was the Russians who broke the back of the Nazis.
 
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why these ****** indians are becoming puppet of usa? kitna hi samjha lo.........ye nHI manney waley......
 
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This forum is indeed quite strange.It is the only forum where I come across posts like:
1)US is a fascist state(It is the US which defeated Nazis & Fascists).
2)US is a terrorist state(US is engaged in War on terrorism & has sacrificed thousands of life)
3)US will soon collapse(Deserves nothing more than a :lol:)

This is merely a psychological defense mechanism on part of a certain section of ignorant and misguided zealots, since it is easier to divert blame to someone else, rather than looking inwards for the roots of their present suffering and problems.
 
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This is merely a psychological defense mechanism on part of a certain section of ignorant and misguided zealots, since it is easier to divert blame to someone else, rather than looking inwards for the roots of their present suffering and problems.

What about those not suffering or having problems? What if I have evidence of fascist U S behavior?
 
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This is merely a psychological defense mechanism on part of a certain section of ignorant and misguided zealots, since it is easier to divert blame to someone else, rather than looking inwards for the roots of their present suffering and problems.

So Mr attention seaker pakistani wannabe american we are hearing all over the place that lots of american public themselves are concerned about their govts policies

Yet you a supposed pakistani, a pakistani pseudo intellectual would deem them to be ignorant and misguided zealots?

There are lots of american people who think like me about american govt there are even movements in america critical of american govt but you no better

Don't Tread On Me- When You Are Aware You Can Prepare.

Why do you resort to insulting people with whom you have disagreements with ???

Occupy Oakland's Port Blockade Creates Rift with Working Americans - Forbes

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/08/occupy-america-protests-financial-crisis
 
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I think this new terror suspect law will make America even more of a police state than it's already become. If the Founding Fathers of this country were alive, they wouldn't be able to recognize it.
 
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This is merely a psychological defense mechanism on part of a certain section of ignorant and misguided zealots, since it is easier to divert blame to someone else, rather than looking inwards for the roots of their present suffering and problems.

WOrking really hard on PDF for a green card VCheng are you ?

US govt don't give anyone a green card unless you're from the west.
 
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This is merely a psychological defense mechanism on part of a certain section of ignorant and misguided zealots, since it is easier to divert blame to someone else, rather than looking inwards for the roots of their present suffering and problems.

So in other words, you are trying to justify fascism, just because it's coming from America?
 
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I think this new terror suspect law will make America even more of a police state than it's already become. If the Founding Fathers of this country were alive, they wouldn't be able to recognize it.

Major changes in such policies are cyclic; the pendulum will right itself in due course.

WOrking really hard on PDF for a green card VCheng are you ?

US govt don't give anyone a green card unless you're from the west.

Really? My passport says otherwise.
 
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................. the hypocritical policies of the US government..............

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...........are no different than all other hypocritical policies of all other governments, so I do not see any reason to single out USA for such criticism. That is all.
 
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