Arabs prefer life in Israel

[Abu Zolfiqar]

i would be interested to know what the Israeli members here opine about anti-zionist Orthodox Jews --many of whom claim that the political ideology of zionism is in itself contrary to the peaceful and non-political teachings of the Jewish religion

 

[Archdemon]

Im an atheist, so i really don give a damn on their theological rational.

 

[LeGenD]

Our south is mostly uninhabited and we are constantly creating more and more new homes.
The goal is eventually bringing all Jews to Israel, but for now Europe and Russia are the most urgent since Anti-Semetism has always been stronger there than in other places. Iran too of course, there are about 25K Jews living there.

Suppose that Israeli population gets doubled in the near future. How will you accomodate those future generations in your country?

Or

Do you guys have plans for greater Israel? If yes, then who would you achieve this?

 

[iPakMan]

Would that really be "advantageous"? But I suppose it's a "Judaic" matter internally. To me this smacks of voluntary "re-ghettorization" and probably makes "Eretz Yisrael" the New Pale of Settlement ...

In my mind this is like doing anti-Semites' job for them. At least this is forgoing "leverage" and playing with lives of people ... for what? Temporary advantage in demographic engineering? I thought that's what American-Israeli dual Citizenship is for ... Well who am I to judge the method ... to each his own.

But as a mere earthling, one of the 6 billion that are breathing at the moment, the main lessons I would personally draw from some of the most tragic events of the 20th Century emphasize the importance of "options".

I take GWB at face value when he supposedly declared that "he was fighting 'them' there, so he won't have to fight 'them' here" (of course in his mind the veritable "them" might include "gog and magog" ...).

Old Europe today is batting pretty hard for Israel, too, as I believe they are fighting to keep them "there", as opposed to having them back to you-know-where ...

Let's not forget the shiny, new-fangled "R2P" Principle championed by UK and France. As long as Jews are in Europe, it is Europe's R2P.

I think it was Herzl (I could be wrong) who supposedly quipped that the Jews in fact landed in continental Europe en masse a good few hundred years before the standard bearers of the Frankish Kingdoms. This would be anthropologically sound given Roman history understood even at the elementary level ...

So I am baffled where this voluntary vacating of Europe came from.

Again, whatever floats one's boat at a given moment in time, I suppose. But exactly how "strategic" this is is debatable.

And I will add, here in Canada at least, I have met more Israelis who made "reverse Aliyah" than Jews who made permanent or semi-permanent "Aliyah". Now if they hold dual citizenship, I could see how it might be strategic, whereby they can vote in the Israeli elections while living in a way as "absentee landlords" (this analogy is not exact but holds some water as they could be seen as the current "landlord" of the Occupied Territories).

As far as this voting on both sides are concerned, Lebanese do it, Hong Kong Chinese do it, NRIs do it, and South Koreans do it ... I believe ... and these are just a few among many.

But not the Palestinians, I suppose ... as I understand many don't even have citizenship where they are actually living.

Well first off Jews in Europe and Russia is our main priority, when i say "eventually" i mean not in the near future. We cannot bring them all here just to destabilize the economy, we need to be a much richer country so that they feel it would be in their own interests to make aliyah. As far as North American Jews are concerned, i`m not worried about them, there is no reason for them to come and live in Israel other than for ideological reason and love for the land. For them Dual Citizenship is a much better option.
And of course you won`t find Zionist Jews from Iran, Iran is the worst Enemy that Israel has, what kind of a moron in Iran will support Israel? They are smart enough to know never to say a kind word for Israel in public.
The economy and the country itself needs to double everything to begin to take in all the Jews from Europe/Russia for them to have a high quality life and we are not there yet.
@Abu Zolfiqar
That Arab knesset member was disowned by her own Arab family after what she did on the Marmara, she is the epiphany of why there is so much hate between our races. She called those savages on Marmara "Freedom Fighters", called out soldiers Murderers and called the International community to sanction Israel the country she is obligated by oath to serve. She is the very worst kind of Arab, enjoying the freedoms of this country and attempting to destroy her at the same time.
About those Anti-Zionist Jews, this world isn`t short on self-loathing Jews and there are quite a few in Israel too.
@LeGenD
I`m not an expert in this but i can tell you what i do know. Much of the land of Israel is still uninhabited and we transformed this country from a desert to a metropolis, we`ll find a way.
About Greater Israel, that plan has been abandoned since it is very much unrealistic. For example though an Egyptian Presidential hopeful just said in an interview that if Israel attacks Hamas again they will wage war on Israel, which shows us what a peace accord is worth with Arabs. We gave up Sinai, land three times the size of Israel, filled with Natural resources and they still want to wage war with us, if they dare do that i`d imagine we`d take that land back.
So i don`t know what the future holds but currently there's enough room to accommodate all the Jews, though it will be quite dense.

 

[Tshering22]

Suppose that Israeli population gets doubled in the near future. How will you accomodate those future generations in your country?

Or

Do you guys have plans for greater Israel? If yes, then who would you achieve this?

If nearly 150 million+ people can stay in Bangladesh, then I guess 15-20 million Jews should be a problem, mate. Israel is small but they are still having enough land to create 305 more cities the size of Haifa. That can easily accommodate the population. I know both countries are different in geographical size but I am just giving a general statement.

 

[iPakMan]

If nearly 150 million+ people can stay in Bangladesh, then I guess 15-20 million Jews should be a problem, mate. Israel is small but they are still having enough land to create 305 more cities the size of Haifa. That can easily accommodate the population. I know both countries are different in geographical size but I am just giving a general statement.

Hopefully not as dense as Bangladesh but yeah.