Arab, Muslim, Zionist and Proud

[al-Hasani]

I believe there are hundreds of thousands of Russian Christians in Israel right now who got citizenship based on being a quarter Jewish or being married to a Jew.

Correct. Even people married to Jews can do that. Many people from poorer countries that ONCE had a somewhat significant Jewish community often invent Jewish ancestry in order to start a better life in Israel. I have little doubt about this.

Israel can exist for all I care (it's a reality now) but they should recognize Palestine. Once they do that I have nothing against the Arab world and Israel normalizing relations.

Look at the user that quoted your post. He is flying a Ukrainian flag. That's where he belongs. Why are his likes (illegal settlers) allowed to steal the Palestinian lands in the West Bank based on dubious claims of ancestral kinship to long extinct Hebrews (who were not even the first people in what is now Palestine/Israel)? You tell me.

 

[Selous]

Yes yes we also like to use our pet dogs for hunting...no big deal really.

 

[500]

Those Palestinian Bedouins do probably not understand the word "Zionist" properly.

Merriam-Webster dictionary:

Zi·on·ism
noun \ˈzī-ə-ˌni-zəm\
: political support for the creation and development of a Jewish homeland in Israel

Quran:

5.21
Remember Moses said to his people... "O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you"

7:137
And We made a people, considered weak (and of no account), inheritors of lands in both east and west, - lands whereon We sent down Our blessings. The fair promise of thy Lord was fulfilled for the Children of Israel, because they had patience and constancy, and We levelled to the ground the great works and fine buildings which Pharaoh and his people erected (with such pride).

17:104
And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)": but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd.

 

[Selous]

Merriam-Webster dictionary:

Zi·on·ism
noun \ˈzī-ə-ˌni-zəm\
: political support for the creation and development of a Jewish homeland in Israel

Quran:

5.21
Remember Moses said to his people... "O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you"

7:137
And We made a people, considered weak (and of no account), inheritors of lands in both east and west, - lands whereon We sent down Our blessings. The fair promise of thy Lord was fulfilled for the Children of Israel, because they had patience and constancy, and We levelled to the ground the great works and fine buildings which Pharaoh and his people erected (with such pride).

17:104
And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)": but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd.

Quran 5:21 "O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin."
So what did your people do...they ran away, which was exactly what God told them not to do. Now after disobeying God's commands you want to return, not with humility as commanded by God but, with the pride and arrogance of the Pharaoh.

 

[al-Hasani]

@500

You must by now have realized that I am not against Jews as a people nor against the existence of a Jewish homeland. I am just against the current Israeli regime and their policies and large parts of the Zionist movement. I am against the killing of Palestinians, the oppression they face and your regime denying them a homeland.

As I have said dozens of times then recognize Palestine and work towards a two-state solution. Right now Israel is not doing that and have not for many, many years. But it seems that you like to live in a open prison were you always need to be on guard. In a paranoid state that many Israelis live in. Goes for both people.

 

[Archdemon]

Israel prides itself upon being a state based on Judaism yet they do not follow their own religious teachings.

Why Orthodox Jews are Opposed to the Zionist State

Fact of the matter is that there are millions of Jews across the world and even Israelis who are against their regimes policies that are detrimental to the peace process.

Zionism has hijacked the entire Israeli system. As long as you will have people like @Solomon2 (who do not even live in Israel) then there will be no peace. For there to be an everlasting peace (or something close) a two-state solution is a must.

This way this tiring conflict will end and that's probably what we all want. Is it not?

Actually, Israel was not founded based on Judaism, Israel is a Jewish national homeland, learn the difference.

 

[500]

Quran 5:21 "O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin."
So what did your people do...they ran away, which was exactly what God told them not to do. Now after disobeying God's commands you want to return, not with humility as commanded by God but, with the pride and arrogance of the Pharaoh.

Ran away? Ever heard about king David or Solomon? How could they exist if Jews ran away?

@500

You must by now have realized that I am not against Jews as a people nor against the existence of a Jewish homeland. I am just against the current Israeli regime and their policies and large parts of the Zionist movement. I am against the killing of Palestinians, the oppression they face and your regime denying them a homeland.

As I have said dozens of times then recognize Palestine and work towards a two-state solution. Right now Israel is not doing that and have not for many, many years. But it seems that you like to live in a open prison were you always need to be on guard. In a paranoid state that many Israelis live in. Goes for both people.

Many Zionists have similar views as u.

The standard-bearers of Judaism and Jewish culture, the Orthodox Jews, are very much against your nonsense.

Do the right thing and support a real two-state solution. This way the whole world will stop hearing about your nonsense once and for all (hopefully).

Hamas celebrates murder of 4 religious Jews during the prayer:

 

[Falcon29]

Hamas celebrates murder of 4 religious Jews during the prayer:

You mean father who taught terrorist son to force Mohammad Khdier to drink gasoline and burn him alive.

 

[Selous]

Ran away? Ever heard about king David or Solomon? How could they exist if Jews ran away?

I am talking about the diaspora that happened in the 6th century BC. You don't know your own history.

 

[500]

You mean father who taught terrorist son to force Mohammad Khdier to drink gasoline and burn him alive.

That's retarded conspiracy theory you were told? Murdered Orthodox Jews have absolutely nothing to to with Khdeir.

I am talking about the diaspora that happened in the 6th century BC. You don't know your own history.

I know perfectly history. In 6th century BC Jewish state was destroyed by Babylonians and Jews were expelled. Later they returned and rebuilt their state. Whats ur point?

 

[Falcon29]

That conspiracy theory you were told? Murdered Orthodox Jews have absolutely nothing to to with Khdeir.

Terrorist settlers which incited murder of Khdeir and one of their sons was the one who forced gasoline into his body and burned him alive. All those 'orthodox' Jews are illegal terrorist settlers who live on occuipped land and that support all violence against Palestinians. There is no conspiracy about it, just because you're a liar doesn't make it a conspiracy.

 

[500]

Terrorist settlers which incited murder of Khdeir and one of their sons was the one who forced gasoline into his body and burned him alive. All those 'orthodox' Jews are illegal terrorist settlers who live on occuipped land and that support all violence against Palestinians. There is no conspiracy about it, just because you're a liar doesn't make it a conspiracy.

Just for your info retard. Those who murdered Khdeir were Sephards and not orthodox, those who were murdered in Synagogue were Ashkenazi Orthodox Jews. Its just dumbest conspiracy theory possible.

You see the difference. When Jews murdered a Palestinian, Israel arrested them and they will rot in jail. When Palestinian murder Jews you praise them and invent idiotic conspiracies. Thats why you are still stateless.

 

[Falcon29]

Just for your info retard. Those who murdered Khdeir were Sephards and not orthodox, those who were murdered in Synagogue were Ashkenazi Orthodox Jews. Its just dumbest conspiracy theory possible.

You see the difference. When Jews murdered a Palestinian, Israel arrested them and they will rot in jail. When Palestinian murder Jews you praise them and invent idiotic conspiracies. Thats why you are still stateless.

Are you dumb? Sephardic is about racial background and orthodox has to do with whatever school of thought they follow. There is no conspiracy here. Everyone in Israel knows the fact I stated.

Israel only arrested them because if the Palestinians responded to the murder moron. In the beginning you god damned Jews were trying to claim he was gay and killed by family. Nobody here forgot your nonsense. Israeli society is most hateful society on planet, all their leaders advocate mass murder/rape/illegal land confiscation/etc...just in hebrew. In english they try being professional.

So the difference here is that Palestinians are defending their selves from crazy psychotic lunatics and lunatics are killing Palestinians in order to steal their land.

 

[Selous]

I know perfectly history. In 6th century BC Jewish state was destroyed by Babylonians and Jews were expelled. Later they returned and rebuilt their state. Whats ur point?

Since the Babylonians expelled you from what was then know as Judea the majority of Jews have lived in the diaspora.Yes some Jews came back when Cyrus the Great pardoned them but most preferred to stay in Babylon. In fact since the 6th century BC it is only now that perhaps more Jews are living in the area that was known as Judea than in diaspora. What's my point...well I was just proving to you that you did run away, a fact that you refuted.
Another point of interest: Judea then went on to become a province/protectorate of Rome. Those few Jews that did return decided to rebel against the Romans (Bar Kokhba revolt). In 135 AD Hadrian (the Roman emperor) crushed the Jews and expelled them again. This time he forbade Jews from returning. He also renamed Judea to Syria Palaestina. Think of that next time you claim that there is or was no such thing as Palestine.

 

[500]

Are you dumb? Sephardic is about racial background and orthodox has to do with whatever school of thought they follow. There is no conspiracy here. Everyone in Israel knows the fact I stated.

Their racial background is different. Stop inventing and dont embarrass urself with retarded conspiracies. If you have any proofs post them otherwise get lost.

Since the Babylonians expelled you from what was then know as Judea the majority of Jews have lived in the diaspora.Yes some Jews came back when Cyrus the Great pardoned them but most preferred to stay in Babylon. In fact since the 6th century BC it is only now that perhaps more Jews are living in the area that was known as Judea than in diaspora. What's my point...well I was just proving to you that you did run away, a fact that you refuted.

Jews did not "run away" but were brutally expelled.

Another point of interest: Judea then went on to become a province/protectorate of Rome. Those few Jews that did return decided to rebel against the Romans (Bar Kokhba revolt).

"Few" Jews? There were some 2 million Jews (number of Arabs under the Arab rule never exceed 300 K). And there were two revolts against Romans.

In 135 AD Hadrian (the Roman emperor) crushed the Jews and expelled them again. This time he forbade Jews from returning. He also renamed Judea to Syria Palaestina. Think of that next time you claim that there is or was no such thing as Palestine.

Palestine is name of Pagan Greek nation given by Pagan Romans to region. Whats to be proud about it? Quran never even mentions that Pagan name at all (which derived from Hebrew "invaders"). I never denied that this name existed.

Ironically during the British Mandate Jews were called "Palestinians" while Arabs called themselves "South Syrians". Only in 1960-es 1970-es Arabs decided to adopt a name Palestinian.