Apple CEO Tim Cook on "low manufacturing wage" in China

[Song Hong]

You didn't listen to Tim Cook's message, or you don't understand, or you don't care to understand. It's SKILLS, not the length of time working. BTW, the number of hours you spat out was false also. In very rare cases, you could see some work 16 hours a day, but that's just temporary emergencies. Most work to maybe 10. Some go to 12. But over 12 and for a consistent period of time? No.. this only happens in the US because it's not uncommon to see health care workers working 12 hours a day. Some may go over 12 in emergency situations. BUT they are well paid 2x in OT.

You just made up lies about China because you've lost to the Chinese: "Oh they're not better or smarter, they just work like slaves." You're patheticly Anglo-Saxon in the inside.

It is politically incorrect to say that East Asian has the highest discipline to pull of low defects at lowest possible lead time (this is fact). US wanted to give business to Hindus. Hindus are so irresponsible and selfish that they cant make it.

You cant produce Iphone in India even though wage level is just 20% of China when defect rate is 50%.

 

[Bilal9]

It is politically incorrect to say that East Asian has the highest discipline to pull of low defects at lowest possible lead time (this is fact). US wanted to give business to Hindus. Hindus are so irresponsible and selfish that they cant make it.

You cant produce Iphone in India even though wage level is just 20% of China when defect rate is 50%.

I can honestly say that the work ethic in India is seriously lacking.

Been to Indian factories many, many times.

They don't recognize QC at all. Ironically I was teaching fishbone (Ishikawa) diagram to Indian factory managers which deals with root cause of defects in factory production.

They nodded their heads a lot but I don't think most of them got even 10% of what I was aiming to convey.

They will always look to cheat or have some shortcut.

And like we saw at Wistron and other factories, are prone to rioting at the slimmest excuse.

Indian industrialists have figured this out, they don't want to invest in low-wage manufacturing.

I am glad that it is mostly women working in apparel and electronics sectors in Bangladesh.

They do work quite hard (and quietly) and sometimes don't even get paid properly, poor things.

 

[Song Hong]

I can honestly say that the work ethic in India is seriously lacking.

Been to Indian factories many, many times.

They don't recognize QC at all. Ironically I was teaching fishbone (Ishikawa) diagram to Indian factory managers which deals with root cause of defects in factory production.

They nodded their heads a lot but I don't think most of them got even 10% of what I was aiming to convey.

They will always look to cheat or have some shortcut.

And like we saw at Wistron and other factories, are prone to rioting at the slimmest excuse.

Indian industrialists have figured this out, they don't want to invest in low-wage manufacturing.

I am glad that it is mostly women working in apparel and electronics sectors in Bangladesh.

They do work quite hard (and quietly) and sometimes don't even get paid properly, poor things.

Unlike Chinese elites Brahmins hate handson. Handson is only for dalits and its an insult to Brahmin. Brahmin like to talk and give instruction.

So Indians cannot handson.

And since you cannot get higher standing by working hard and meritocracy, (and in fact if you handson more, people think you low class), every Indians tries to sabotage work progress.

 

[nahtanbob]

It is politically incorrect to say that East Asian has the highest discipline to pull of low defects at lowest possible lead time (this is fact). US wanted to give business to Hindus. Hindus are so irresponsible and selfish that they cant make it.

You cant produce Iphone in India even though wage level is just 20% of China when defect rate is 50%.

Apple invented the iPhone. Not China. USA has produced electronics without China in the past. They can do so in the future.

 

[Song Hong]

Apple invented the iPhone. Not China. USA has produced electronics without China in the past. They can do so in the future.

USA indeed produced the best electronics in the past and maybe on par with China today.

But these days, production cost in US is likely 4-10x compared to East Asia.

And these days, US lag behind in IC production technologies even though Intel has far more prestigious PHD than TSMC.

 

[nahtanbob]

USA indeed produced the best electronics in the past and maybe on par with China today.

But these days, production cost in US is likely 4-10x compared to East Asia.

And these days, US lag behind in IC production technologies even though Intel has far more prestigious PHD than TSMC.

US chip companies are still the best on the planet. USA owns 60% of the world's semiconductor manufacturing equipment companies. China could not hold our jock strap.
USA can use other places on earth to match China's low cost assembly.

 

[CallSignMaverick]

may they got confused with india...

india probably advertised... cheap cheap like china

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Not possible. US workers are too lazy and raise Union blackmail stakes.

Indians are - well, Indians.

This is iPhone (Wistron) in Bengaluru, India. Yes that is a woman in the first picture.

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Yet they're investing tens of billions of dollars in India and elude your stinking shithole swamp far away .

I can honestly say that the work ethic in India is seriously lacking.

Been to Indian factories many, many times.

They don't recognize QC at all. Ironically I was teaching fishbone (Ishikawa) diagram to Indian factory managers which deals with root cause of defects in factory production.

They nodded their heads a lot but I don't think most of them got even 10% of what I was aiming to convey.

They will always look to cheat or have some shortcut.

And like we saw at Wistron and other factories, are prone to rioting at the slimmest excuse.

Indian industrialists have figured this out, they don't want to invest in low-wage manufacturing.

I am glad that it is mostly women working in apparel and electronics sectors in Bangladesh.

They do work quite hard (and quietly) and sometimes don't even get paid properly, poor things.

 

[Bilal9]

Unlike Chinese elites Brahmins hate handson. Handson is only for dalits and its an insult to Brahmin. Brahmin like to talk and give instruction.

So Indians cannot handson.

And since you cannot get higher standing by working hard and meritocracy, (and in fact if you handson more, people think you low class), every Indians tries to sabotage work progress.

You are quite right, no Indian person above lower middle class goes to work in a factory, doing hands on work.

It is considered underclass job for them. They like paper pushing job and administrative work, that is considered far more honorable.

 

[Song Hong]

You are quite right, no Indian person above lower middle class goes to work in a factory, doing hands on work.

It is considered underclass job for them. They like paper pushing job and administrative work, that is considered far more honorable.

The Brahmins like to talk and give instructions. They are MBA style culture. These are toxic people. This is the outcome of Brahmins being 2000 years ruling class.

Brahmins culture align to modern capitalism. so they climb corporate ladder fast.

Modern capiltalism corporate managers hate talent and prefer talk cokers, toxic personalities, bully, gangsterism.

But when entire nations are under such culture, this nation is hopeless.

 

[nahtanbob]

The Brahmins like to talk and give instructions. They are MBA style culture. These are toxic people. This is the outcome of Brahmins being 2000 years ruling class.

Brahmins culture align to modern capitalism. so they climb corporate ladder fast.

Modern capiltalism corporate managers hate talent and prefer talk cokers, toxic personalities, bully, gangsterism.

But when entire nations are under such culture, this nation is hopeless.

you are obviously clueless about economic history. without corporations you will be stuck in family run feudal economic system

 

[Bilal9]

US chip companies are still the best on the planet. USA owns 60% of the world's semiconductor manufacturing equipment companies. China could not hold our jock strap.
USA can use other places on earth to match China's low cost assembly.

All in your glorious mind Nathuram Baboo. Change your flag to Indian tricolor, stop living a lie.

 

[etylo]

USA can use other places on earth to match China's low cost assembly.

You idiot still think China's advantage is its low cost assembly, you really didn't watch Tim Cook has been saying in the video, or you Indians are just living in your delusional world. By the way, US companies such as Apple can move their manufacturing to India if they ever want to, that is.

 

[nahtanbob]

You idiot still think China's advantage is its low cost assembly, you really didn't watch Tim Cook has been saying in the video, or you Indians are just living in your delusional world. By the way, US companies such as Apple can move their manufacturing to India if they ever want to, that is.

Most of Apple's engineering talents is in Cupertino not in China

 

[etylo]

Most of Apple's engineering talents is in Cupertino not in China

You don't have to talk nonsense, Apple research is mainly done in US.

 

[Song Hong]

Most of Apple's engineering talents is in Cupertino not in China

US indeed have genius, but in terms of production, you need millions of discipline workers.

You need to reward discipline and hardwork.

US lacks this culture and this workers.

These days US has destroyed her workers by sanctifying childhood happiness and pushing opoids and cannabis.

You cannot have good manufacturing industries when large number of your lower middle class hook on cannibis.