Appeal to the Muslims around the globe

[fitpOsitive]

Assalamoalykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
As we witnessed New Zealand terror attack. And we are still in deep sorrow.
One thing that I felt was that had there a Muslim armed person in the Masjid, the Story would have been a little bit different. I know many countries don't allow even licenced arm, but if the govt doesn't fulfil her duties, then an unlicensed arm can be arranged to ensure safety. A pistol or an Uzi type sub.
It's my appeal to the Muslims around the globe, that there should be at least one armed person be present in everyplace where Muslims gather(masjids and community halls). This will ensure that if somebody wants to take lives, he must give his life too.
@MastanKhan @Hakikat ve Hikmet @Khafee @Ahmet Pasha @Mentee

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

So we need security guards for masjids. Count the numbers in Pakistan, Practically it seems impossible to guard one million mosques.
Only possibility is to give them under government control, demolish half of them or 2/3rd of them, and allocate same money for guard & renovation. There is no need of 3 masjid in one street , Why different fikah when you visit Allah mosque.

 

[jamahir]

Why not one or more licensed armed guards ??

This I am saying only for the West.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Assalamoalykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
As we witnessed New Zealand terror attack. And we are still in deep sorrow.
One thing that I felt was that had there a Muslim armed person in the Masjid, the Story would have been a little bit different. I know many countries don't allow even licenced arm, but if the govt doesn't fulfil her duties, then an unlicensed arm can be arranged to ensure safety. A pistol or an Uzi type sub.
It's my appeal to the Muslims around the globe, that there should be at least one armed person be present in everyplace where Muslims gather(masjids and community halls). This will ensure that if somebody wants to take lives, he must give his life too.
@MastanKhan @Hakikat ve Hikmet @Khafee @Ahmet Pasha @Mentee

we have Armed guards in sensitive Mosques in Pakistan. also Saudi Arabia so yea its upto the administration of those areas. and upto administration of the mosque to request such things.

All you need is one or two guards posted outside the mosque who check for Weapons or sharp objects.

 

[Mutakalim]

So we need security guards for masjids. Count the numbers in Pakistan, Practically it seems impossible to guard one million mosques.
Only possibility is to give them under government control, demolish half of them or 2/3rd of them, and allocate same money for guard & renovation. There is no need of 3 masjid in one street , Why different fikah when you visit Allah mosque.

This is secularism? Disgusting, pathetic, amateurish, extremist and narrow minded just like their counterparts in ISIS, KKK, Nazis and Fascist. You people are pathetic with just hatred of Islam, little knowledge and huge inferiority complex.

How can you stop anyone from building a worship place? Its a fundamental right mentioned in constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan. You want to destroy the whole fabric of this society by destroying mosques?

Where is your Madar Pidar Azad freedom of speech when you talk shamelessly about giving mosques under governmental control? You want a Saudi system where written sermon is handed over to Imam. It's a fundamental right of every human being to express and propagate his beliefs, subject to law and morality. Everyone should be free to express his views and beliefs in front of audience and to lead them in prayers, if they are not going against the law. 99% of mosques in Pakistan are following Pakistani laws.

Real face of secularism, liberalism and Mom bati Mafia is in front of us. And you are a poster child of this extremist mentality.

Why not one or more licensed armed guards ??

This I am saying only for the West.

Why dont you think about protecting Indian Muslim from lynching by Hindutva cow vigilantes.

 

[jamahir]

Why dont you think about protecting Indian Muslim from lynching by Hindutva cow vigilantes.

How do you want me to go about it ??

Also, Dalits are also being lynched and progressives are being shot dead.

So its a bit more extended and complex issue.

 

[Mutakalim]

How do you want me to go about it ??

Also, Dalits are also being lynched and progressives are being shot dead.

So its a bit more complex issue.

Let's see whether your secularism can save Indian Muslims from persecution or not.

 

[Hex0maniac]

This is secularism? Disgusting, pathetic, amateurish, extremist and narrow minded just like their counterparts in ISIS, KKK, Nazis and Fascist. You people are pathetic with just hatred of Islam, little knowledge and huge inferiority complex.

How can you stop anyone from building a worship place? Its a fundamental right mentioned in constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan. You want to destroy the whole fabric of this society by destroying mosques?

Where is your Madar Pidar Azad freedom of speech when you talk shamelessly about giving mosques under governmental control? You want a Saudi system where written sermon is handed over to Imam. It's a fundamental right of every human being to express and propagate his beliefs, subject to law and morality.

Real face of secularism, liberalism and Mom bati Mafia is in front of us. And you are a poster child of this extremist mentality.

In my area there are four (4) mosque(and thats "sunni" only) from every school of thought. Hardly any of them has major attendance, my question is whats the need ?, why cant we share 1 and show real brotherhood of Islam. For me if a mosque purpose is to break this bond then its no better than Masjid al-Dirar check it out .

I went to canada few years back and every school of thought was standing shoulder to shoulder. That Salah was the best.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

In Chicago suburbs many towns have hired security and many have volunteered for guard duties.

Many mosques also held active shooter drills.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ch...-muslims-talk-religion-st-0322-story,amp.html

Assalamoalykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
As we witnessed New Zealand terror attack. And we are still in deep sorrow.
One thing that I felt was that had there a Muslim armed person in the Masjid, the Story would have been a little bit different. I know many countries don't allow even licenced arm, but if the govt doesn't fulfil her duties, then an unlicensed arm can be arranged to ensure safety. A pistol or an Uzi type sub.
It's my appeal to the Muslims around the globe, that there should be at least one armed person be present in everyplace where Muslims gather(masjids and community halls). This will ensure that if somebody wants to take lives, he must give his life too.
@MastanKhan @Hakikat ve Hikmet @Khafee @Ahmet Pasha @Mentee

 

[fitpOsitive]

we have Armed guards in sensitive Mosques in Pakistan. also Saudi Arabia so yea its upto the administration of those areas. and upto administration of the mosque to request such things.

All you need is one or two guards posted outside the mosque who check for Weapons or sharp objects.

I think they should be inside, invisible, standing in between people, at a spot is rarely visible.

 

[Hex0maniac]

In Chicago suburbs many towns have hired security and many have volunteered for guard duties.

Many mosques also held active shooter drills.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ch...-muslims-talk-religion-st-0322-story,amp.html

these are truly troubling days for muslim may ALLAH help and secure them from any harm. amen

 

[fitpOsitive]

In Chicago suburbs many towns have hired security and many have volunteered for guard duties.

Many mosques also held active shooter drills.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ch...-muslims-talk-religion-st-0322-story,amp.html

Guards should be invisible and in daily routine clothes.

these are truly troubling days for muslim may ALLAH help and secure them from any harm. amen

These days are blessings in disguise of Allah, specially for Pakistan.

 

[Mutakalim]

In my area there are four (4) mosque(and thats "sunni" only) from every school of thought. Hardly any of them has major attendance, my question is whats the need ?, why cant we share 1 and show real brotherhood of Islam. For me if a mosque purpose is to break this bond then its no better than Masjid al-Dirar check it out .

You are right, this is a problem which is effecting unity of Muslims. However, we should be practical in our approach. The question is, how are you planing to implement this? By unilateral destruction of 2/3rd of Mosques. Or by imposing restriction on construction of new mosques? I will not comment on first scenario, as it is childish. If a restriction is imposed on construction of new mosques, then people will start gathering in their homes for prayers. You cant change the behaviour of people in a night. Only solution of this problem is education, educate the masses so that they can get rid of this mentality. Any other attempt would be futile and will only result in a civil war.

You are talking about Muslim brotherhood and here on this forum majority of people are not willing to except this idea. For them Islam is a religion, not a deen. They believe that religion is a personal, private issue which has no concern with state and its functions. For them, best solution is destruction of Mosques which is of course not acceptable to ordinary Muslim.

 

[Hex0maniac]

You are right, this is a problem which is effecting unity of Muslims. However, we should be practical in our approach. The question is, how are you planing to implement this? By unilateral destruction of 2/3rd of Mosques. Or by imposing restriction on construction of new mosques? I will not comment on first scenario, as it is childish. If a restriction is imposed on construction of new mosques, then people will start gathering in their homes for prayers. You cant change the behaviour of people in a night. Only solution of this problem is education, educate the masses so that they can get rid of this mentality. Any other attempt would be futile and will only result in a civil war.

You are talking about Muslim brotherhood and here on this forum majority of people are not willing to except this idea. For them Islam is a religion, not a deen. They believe that religion is a personal, private issue which has no concern with state and its functions. For them, best solution is destruction of Mosques which is of course not acceptable to ordinary Muslim.

Obviously like any two country relation, this must be explored and inter faith convention should be started immediately. This unspoken hate must me extinguish before it consumes us.rather then finding difference, we must find common ground Insh-Allah we will rise and see better and heed from our past mistakes.Amen

 

[Mentee]

Assalamoalykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
As we witnessed New Zealand terror attack. And we are still in deep sorrow.
One thing that I felt was that had there a Muslim armed person in the Masjid, the Story would have been a little bit different. I know many countries don't allow even licenced arm, but if the govt doesn't fulfil her duties, then an unlicensed arm can be arranged to ensure safety. A pistol or an Uzi type sub.
It's my appeal to the Muslims around the globe, that there should be at least one armed person be present in everyplace where Muslims gather(masjids and community halls). This will ensure that if somebody wants to take lives, he must give his life too.
@MastanKhan @Hakikat ve Hikmet @Khafee @Ahmet Pasha @Mentee

No need to!

They may just move an application to the police department to send cops for any event