What's new

AP IMPACT: Pakistan police losing terrorism fight

PeaceForAll

BANNED
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
246
Reaction score
0
AP IMPACT: Pakistan police losing terrorism fight


BADABER, Pakistan – Brothers Mushtaq and Ishaq Ali left the police force a month ago, terrified of dying as their colleagues had — beheaded by militants on a rutted village road before a shocked crowd.

They went straight to the local Urdu-language newspaper to announce their resignation. They were too poor to pay for a personal ad, so the editor of The Daily Moon, Rasheed Iqbal, published a news story instead. He has run dozens like it.

"They just want to get the word out to the Taliban that they are not with the police anymore so they won't kill them," said Iqbal. "They know that no one can protect them, and especially not their fellow policemen."

Outgunned and out-financed, police in volatile northwestern Pakistan are fighting a losing battle against insurgents, dozens of interviews by The Associated Press show. They are dying in large numbers, and many survivors are leaving the force.

The number of terrorist attacks against police has gone up from 113 in 2005 to 1,820 last year, according to National Police Bureau. The death toll for policemen in that time has increased from nine to 575. In the northwestern area alone, 127 policemen have died so far this year in suicide bombings and assassinations, and another 260 have been wounded.

The crisis means the police cannot do the nuts-and-bolts work needed to stave off an insurgency fueled by the Taliban and al-Qaida. While the military can pound mountain hideouts, analysts and local officials say it is the police who should hunt down insurgents, win over the people, and restore order.

"The only way to save Pakistan is to think of extremism and insurgency in North West Frontier Province as a law enforcement issue," said Hassan Abbas, a South Asia expert at Harvard University's Belfer Center Project for Science. "Rather than buying more F-16s, Pakistan should invest in modernizing its police."

In the Swat Valley, militants have turned a once-idyllic mountain getaway into a nightmare of bombings and beheadings despite a six-month military operation to root them out. About 300 policemen have fled the force already.

On a recent evening in Mardan, Akhtar Ali Shah had just slipped out of his deputy police inspector's uniform to head home. In an escort vehicle, a half-dozen of his guards had inched outside the giant white gates of the police station for a routine security check.

The bomb exploded minutes later. Through a cloud of dust and dirt, Shah saw five of his six guards lying dead near the blood-smeared gate. The head of the suicide bomber rested nearby.

"We are the ones who are getting killed by the terrorists that we are facing," Shah said later.

Al-Qaida-linked militants ferry truckloads of explosives from the tribal regions through Mardan to targets deep within Pakistan, often slipping past scores of police checkpoints. But Shah said his men lack the technical expertise, training or equipment to hunt down big-name terrorists or even identify would-be suicide bombers.

His voice laced with frustration, Shah held up his small black cell phone.

"These people are among us. Look here: Our technical capabilities are so weak that we don't even have the ability to listen or to trace these phone calls," he said. "How are we supposed to know who it is that is coming here to kill us and when?"

Most of Pakistan's 383,000 police are poorly paid constables. Malik Naveed Khan, who heads the force of 55,000 in the North West Frontier Province, said he has one policeman for every 364 miles of some of the most dangerous terrain in the world.

"Insurgents can see when I go someplace and wait for me to return and kill me," he said. "It isn't my own death that I fear, but every time there is an attack, it demoralizes the whole police force."

Khan said his men fight with World War II-vintage, single-shot weapons against the rapid-fire Kalashnikov rifles carried by the militants. The police go out on patrol without bulletproof vests or helmets. And of Khan's 18 armored personnel carriers, six are 1960s-era Soviet models that break down so often he now sends a mechanic along with the police.

A Pakistani constable makes about $80 a month, compared with about $170 for a Taliban foot soldier, Khan said.

Even in death, militants do better than the Pakistani police. Militant groups pay more than $20,000 to the families of suicide bombers, compared with $6,000 given to a policeman's survivor, Khan said.

"Where is their money coming from?" he asked.

He said he believes a lot of it comes from the flourishing opium trade next door in Afghanistan, donations from devout Muslims and extortion of wealthy Muslims in the Middle East.

Most police stations in Pakistan don't even have cameras to photograph the crime scene or criminals. There were two functioning forensic laboratories in Pakistan in 2001, and since then four more have been approved — a start, but far short of the 50 or so police say they need. Khan said Pakistani police also lack enough explosives-sniffing dogs to check the truckloads coming from the tribal region.

The Pakistani government recognizes the need to train, develop and equip local police, said Sherry Rahman, information minister. But she added that Pakistan has little money for such investment and needs help from the international community.

Most U.S. aid to Pakistan goes to the military, not the police. Washington gave $731 million for military spending last year and $862 million the year before, according to a September report issued by the Pakistan Policy Working Group, an independent, nonpartisan group. By contrast, the U.S. gave $4.9 million for law enforcement and the judicial system last year.

The crisis among the police is also hobbling the courts, said Imtiaz, a deputy jail superintendent who wanted to use only one name because he feared reprisals from militants and his bosses.

Interviewed at a central jail in northwest Pakistan, the jailer said he has been threatened repeatedly by militants who found his phone number. Late-night calls warn him to treat jailed insurgents with a kind hand.

He told of an insurgent caught by police and imprisoned for an attack on a girls' school. At the only anti-terrorist court in town, the judge — who had also been threatened — heard the case, listened to the militant's confession and then acquitted him, Imtiaz said.

"No one believes the police can protect them," Imtiaz said with a laugh. "I am part of the police, and I know they can't protect me."

The police are trying to fight back with citizen councils and the beginnings of an elite force of 7,500 men who will be given a good salary and trained in investigative skills, profiling and weaponry training, said Khan, the provincial police chief. The first 2,000 men are being trained.

About a half-dozen civilian forces, fashioned along the lines of Iraq's Awakening Councils, have also been enticed into taking up arms against the militants in return for more development. Some of the councils, which call themselves Peace Committees, number more than 300 villagers.

"The people of this area have learned as children how to fire a rifle, how to handle a gun," Khan said. "Everyone has a gun, whether licensed or unlicensed. They don't need to be shown how to use them."

In Badaber, a dusty village barely six miles from the provincial capital of Peshawar, a civilian force patrols the streets at night. Abdul Hafeez, who runs a gas station in Badaber, said even government or army trucks must now get permission from villagers blocking the road to pass at night.

The job of the patrols, he said, is to keep out the militants, the military — and the police.

Hafeez said he had told the police a day in advance about rumors that militants were planning to blow up an electrical tower in Badaber. The next day, they did. The police did nothing.

"No, no, no — no one will go to the police," he said. "The police can't do anything. They can't stop these Taliban even when they know they are going to attack."

___

Associated Press writer Riaz Khan in Peshawar contributed to this report.

is this true?? all the while I thought we were winning hands down!! :undecided:
 
At least Mumbai Police were better. They have fought and died, didn't go away like cowards.

Daredevil, you just can't resist bashing Pakistan and its people in whatever way possible. So lets get this straight, you think mumbai police stood and fought... think again and instead of wasting others time here in flame war, go and see your own media... your policemen in mumbai hid themselves from the attackers and didn't have the guts to chase them. Is it difficult for you to digest that 12 people taking the entire mumbai hostage and killing people at will is a testament to the pusillanimity of your "mighty" police force. If in doubt, see the CCTV footage released for CST shootings, your pipsqueak heroes were hiding behind the wall and shivering if at all they did not have their pants wet. Read articles and blogs where you will find stories of people present on the spot who kept begging the police to do something but they did not budge and try and find the story of policemen who told a woman not to worry as he would save her like a bollywood hero but sure enough when the bullets started flying, he fled the scene for his life probably to fight another day. So stop throwing stones..........:angry:
 
pls the pak police were never in a position to win the WoT. the army is doing it for them!
 
Daredevil, you just can't resist bashing Pakistan and its people in whatever way possible. So lets get this straight, you think mumbai police stood and fought... think again and instead of wasting others time here in flame war, go and see your own media... your policemen in mumbai hid themselves from the attackers and didn't have the guts to chase them. Is it difficult for you to digest that 12 people taking the entire mumbai hostage and killing people at will is a testament to the pusillanimity of your "mighty" police force. If in doubt, see the CCTV footage released for CST shootings, your pipsqueak heroes were hiding behind the wall and shivering if at all they did not have their pants wet. Read articles and blogs where you will find stories of people present on the spot who kept begging the police to do something but they did not budge and try and find the story of policemen who told a woman not to worry as he would save her like a bollywood hero but sure enough when the bullets started flying, he fled the scene for his life probably to fight another day. So stop throwing stones..........:angry:


The point remains same. The mumbai attack terrorist were having Ak-47 while the poor policemen had vintage 0.303 rifle, so obviously he will hide for protection and try to shoot at them But they didn't run away, especially they didn't give personal ads to not kill them like the Pakistani police did. You should read how 'Kasav' the captured terrorist was actually captured. Four policemen died in catching that guy, they died but didn't run away. I'm not throwing stones at you but merely pointing out the difference.

I do sympathize with Pakistani policemen for not being supported by GoP.
 
The mumbai attack terrorist were having Ak-47 while the poor policemen had vintage 0.303 rifle, so obviously he will hide for protection and try to shoot at them But they didn't run away, especially they didn't give personal ads to not kill them like the Pakistani police did. You should read how 'Kasav' the captured terrorist was actually captured. Four policemen died in catching that guy, they died but didn't run away.

Are you trying to compare the odds that your mumbai police force faced in shape of mere "12" guys armed with AK-47 and our police force which faces "hordes" of well organized and well armed Taliban and foreign fighters who are equipped with much more sophisticated equipment. They always outnumber the police in such engagements by 2 or 3 times, now compare this with your whole mumbai police, ATS, NSG, quick reaction forces and what not and what not...........against 12 people. Your imbecile argument doesn't stand its ground. :lol: Read the article first:-

The number of terrorist attacks against police has gone up from 113 in 2005 to 1,820 last year, according to National Police Bureau. The death toll for policemen in that time has increased from nine to 575. In the northwestern area alone, 127 policemen have died so far this year in suicide bombings and assassinations, and another 260 have been wounded.

Try and compare the odds between your valiant force and ours to see the sacrifices rendered by our police force vis-a-vis yours. Whole mumbai police pouncing to capture one terrorist alive.... no mean feat indeed keeping in view their overall performance in just "one" incident. :lol: If God forbids there are few more, you have to wait and see whether your police publishes ads or not. And don't forget that not only our police have given extraordinary sacrifices but also have captured more number of terrorists than your mumbai police could manage on its own untill the whole special forces might was unleashed against the remaining terrorists... embarassing indeed... :tsk:
By the way, the veracity of report is doubtful and i would request Peace for all to show his true Indian color instead of trying to deceive us by putting Pakistani flags. :crazy:
 
At least Mumbai Police were better. They have fought and died, didn't go away like cowards.

Most of the desertions are taking place in the violence hit areas of FATA and Swat. They are also taking place in a region that has been hard hit by an extremely violent insurgency for over a year now, and will likely continue for a few more years, unlike the Mumbai attacks with ten men over a couple of days.

The comparison here by you is inapt.

As prodigy pointed out, dozens of Mumbai police were hiding from two gunmen. At the very least one would have expected them to fire of a few rounds with the .303's. A correct comparison would be to see how police in Karachi or Lahore handled an attack by gunmen. But that said, the police forces in neither country are very well equipped or funded, one major reason for the massive corruption that plagues law enforcement in both nations.

Please don't flame again. This is your last warning.
 
Last edited:
On the subject of the thread - some of us have been making this argument for over a year now that this threat cannot be eliminated without capacity building in local law enforcement.

The military cannot police every town and village. What they do best is what they have done so far, go in and rout out militants entrenched in their stronghold such as Bajaur. Quite frankly it was foolish of the militants to even attempt to set up a fortified stronghold such as they did. There was no doubt it would be destroyed by a disciplined and superior conventional army, and that they had the audacity to do so is perhaps testament to how badly the previous policies of 'deals' failed.

The insurgency will inevitably attempt to blend itself into the local populace, and attack from there. The only way to counter this is through effective local law enforcement and socio-economic development. We are lagging on both counts so far. None of the proposed plans, such as the Reconstruction Opportunity Zones (ROZ's) the US is funding or other projects seem to be going anywhere. The economic problems have exacerbated the funding situation both domestically and externally. Perhaps the wait now is also in part to allow the incoming US administration to make decisions on these issues.
 
Back
Top Bottom