Anti-USA in Indonesia and China

[prima99]

not really, in facts so many lower class getting their first touch of political culture and western system education from them too, if not how can the so called "nobles" like Soekarno, Hatta, Muh Yamin and so on can share their idea of Revolution and Freedom to the lower class if the lower class (or the mass) doesn't know what happened around them. Education and information is the key, and it was the Western power (Dutch in Indonesia cases) who introduces modern society institution in to Nusantara sphere.

And i think, Soekarno is not anti Western Power per-se nor hate it so much, but the condition at the time forced him to make some decision, some for his own political gain at home and some for political show abroad

not really. to be enslaved for 350 years has cultivated the mentality of a servant in the minds of the commoners. that is why when Sukarno shouted the revolution, they follow suit (and also the fact that they indeed is fed up with the dutch and their Sultans/Kings/Nobles for SO LONG). the amount of Provincal Heroes killed by dutch lies isn't helping either. besides, the dutch plays Natives vs Natives strategy to further divided and backwarded the locals.


their systems are hardly of any worth. we Adopted the RT/RW from Japanese Tonarigumi

Tonarigumi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

apa yang dimaksud dengan tonarigumi sama heiho?... - Brainly.co.id

the very first Indonesian Identity Card is from Japan. also the very first time the commoners were Recognized as "Human" than slaves.

and the PETA, Keibodan, Seinendan, Kempetai, Heiho, Fujinkai, and many other things.

Sukarno isn't an avid Murican Haters. he gets his ire towards western world when Eisenhower backed the Permesta Separatist, then it branched off to other things. Kennedy was a good friend of Sukarno until the murican killed him.

 

[jhungary]

I noticed that the article was dated 1999.

Since then, George W Bush and Dick Cheney have superseded Bill Clinton as bigger war criminals, IMHO. There was no good reason to get rid of Saddam Hussein.

Sure, Saddam was a dictator but he held Iraq together. I hate to say it but that country needs a dictator.

Now Iraq is splintered into three regions where its people are killing each other. Hundreds of thousands have died and millions are displaced. And ISIS came into existence.

Looking back, Bill Clinton looks like an angel compared to Bush and Cheney.

2 things

1.)ISIS existed before US invaded Iraq.

2.) Iraq did have WMD chemical weapon, the Allies found it in 2008, most people don't really care because of the Anti-Iraq war movement sell more paper.