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Uhm, aren't we confusing program management (incl. dealings and haggling between DoD and the producer) and the capabilities of the fighter itself here?
Another F-35 fighter caught on fire
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Uhm, aren't we confusing program management (incl. dealings and haggling between DoD and the producer) and the capabilities of the fighter itself here?
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Sorry, but those are 'shopped pics. Each of those F-35s were on fire when they were flying.
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The actual and complete quote is " The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program is drawing sharp criticism from the Pentagon's top weapons tester, who warns the aircraft is "on a path of failing to deliver" its full combat capability."
It goes on:
" An Aug. 9th memo from Michael Gilmore, the Defense Department's director of operational testing, to defense officials details the tester's concerns... Gilmore wrote that the advanced aircraft continues to demonstrate limitations related to its software, data fusion, electronic warfare and weapons employment,..."Achieving full combat capability with the Joint Strike Fighter is at substantial risk" of not occurring before development is supposed to end and realistic combat testing begins, he wrote in the memo"
To me, that means ' not in time' rather than ' not at all' ... Note that after ' development' comes ' realistic combat testing' . So, he is referring to a future program phase, rather than the end-product that pilots will fly with..
And further:
Roger Cabiness, a Department of Defense spokesman for the Director of Operational Test and Evaluation, confirmed the contents of Gilmore's memo and told CNN it "provides details of significant performance problems that must be corrected for the Joint Strike Fighter to achieve full combat capability, as well as concerns that the program likely lacks the resources needed to correct those problems consistent with beginning operational testing in 2018."
I.E. are there enough FUNDS to fix problems as exist IN TIME for the schedule operational testing? There is no mention of some inherent TECHNICAL impossibility to fix these problems: rather, it is a matter of TIME and MONEY.
"The program has a proven track record of solving technical issues and we're confident we'll continue to do so," added Lt. Gen. Chris Bogdon, the F-35's chief executive officer
Despite Gilmore's warning that the program "is running out of time and money to complete the planned flight testing and implement the required fixes and modifications," the Joint Program Office remains optimistic that it will be able to complete the next-generation fighter in keeping with its latest schedule and within its most recent budget allocation.
The article ends on a positive note:
As a testament to the program's progress, Bogdon also noted that the F-35 has already been employed in multiple realistic, demanding deployments and exercises.
"The results of these operationally realistic events have been positive as the F-35 is proving to be a formidable weapons system that not only provides better capabilities when compared to legacy aircraft but also makes legacy aircraft more effective with its battlespace awareness, sensor fusion, and electronic attack & protective capabilities," he said in a statement.
In addition to the Air Force declaring its version of the F-35 ready for combat earlier this month, the DOD's Joint Program Office touted recent successes in testing the fighter's weapons firing system.
The Marines declared its version of the aircraft combat-ready in July 2015, while the Navy expects to reach that milestone in 2018.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/26/politics/f-35-fighter-jet-problems-gilmore-memo/
Meanwhile, in the Netherlands, some more F-35s 'that are on fire'
https://theaviationist.com/2016/05/...-of-the-first-dutch-f-35s-in-the-netherlands/
https://theaviationist.com/2016/06/...-of-shock-collars-forming-around-an-f-35-jsf/
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2016/05/23/watch-two-dutch-f-35s-land-netherlands/84802616/
It goes on:
" An Aug. 9th memo from Michael Gilmore, the Defense Department's director of operational testing, to defense officials details the tester's concerns... Gilmore wrote that the advanced aircraft continues to demonstrate limitations related to its software, data fusion, electronic warfare and weapons employment,..."Achieving full combat capability with the Joint Strike Fighter is at substantial risk" of not occurring before development is supposed to end and realistic combat testing begins, he wrote in the memo"
To me, that means ' not in time' rather than ' not at all' ... Note that after ' development' comes ' realistic combat testing' . So, he is referring to a future program phase, rather than the end-product that pilots will fly with..
And further:
Roger Cabiness, a Department of Defense spokesman for the Director of Operational Test and Evaluation, confirmed the contents of Gilmore's memo and told CNN it "provides details of significant performance problems that must be corrected for the Joint Strike Fighter to achieve full combat capability, as well as concerns that the program likely lacks the resources needed to correct those problems consistent with beginning operational testing in 2018."
I.E. are there enough FUNDS to fix problems as exist IN TIME for the schedule operational testing? There is no mention of some inherent TECHNICAL impossibility to fix these problems: rather, it is a matter of TIME and MONEY.
"The program has a proven track record of solving technical issues and we're confident we'll continue to do so," added Lt. Gen. Chris Bogdon, the F-35's chief executive officer
Despite Gilmore's warning that the program "is running out of time and money to complete the planned flight testing and implement the required fixes and modifications," the Joint Program Office remains optimistic that it will be able to complete the next-generation fighter in keeping with its latest schedule and within its most recent budget allocation.
The article ends on a positive note:
As a testament to the program's progress, Bogdon also noted that the F-35 has already been employed in multiple realistic, demanding deployments and exercises.
"The results of these operationally realistic events have been positive as the F-35 is proving to be a formidable weapons system that not only provides better capabilities when compared to legacy aircraft but also makes legacy aircraft more effective with its battlespace awareness, sensor fusion, and electronic attack & protective capabilities," he said in a statement.
In addition to the Air Force declaring its version of the F-35 ready for combat earlier this month, the DOD's Joint Program Office touted recent successes in testing the fighter's weapons firing system.
The Marines declared its version of the aircraft combat-ready in July 2015, while the Navy expects to reach that milestone in 2018.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/26/politics/f-35-fighter-jet-problems-gilmore-memo/
Meanwhile, in the Netherlands, some more F-35s 'that are on fire'
https://theaviationist.com/2016/05/...-of-the-first-dutch-f-35s-in-the-netherlands/
https://theaviationist.com/2016/06/...-of-shock-collars-forming-around-an-f-35-jsf/
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2016/05/23/watch-two-dutch-f-35s-land-netherlands/84802616/
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http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=45577&start=90
Nope, no actual fires....
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...-f-35s-arriving-at-leeuwarden-air-bas-425648/
Should you have 2.5 hrs to kill....
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