Analysis: Is Russia Relevant for India?

[kaku1]

See thats the problem,,they have awarded all those p17a to mazgaon and gsre.
Piparav itself has no competing design to this frigate which i believe is easily one of the best in the world.

Give me one answer, how can one shipyard design a top notch ship, without any experience. Even MDL dont design the ship.

 

[he-man]

Give me one answer, how can one shipyard design a top notch ship, without any experience. Even MDL dont design the ship.

I know,,government should have awarded at least 1 frigate to piparav too,,,,7 of them are to be made.

 

[Hareeshu IA MBT]

For sure

well we have a history of surprising people

 

[kaku1]

shut up!

didi aap rehne do, aap sai na ho payega.

 

[he-man]

didi aap rehne do, aap sai na ho payega.

@levina

sorry if u took that seriously.

 

[gau8av]

support from india on ukraine issue to russia would be openly claimed by modi

maaza aa jayega, lets see how it goes..

 

[Hareeshu IA MBT]

Both have valid points which cannot be addressed by either side .
Today's equations :

Russians : Whom India will support . Russia or America ? India will say both for its own reason .

India : whom will you support India or china ? Russians will say both

wtf ?

What is good for both the countries ? Support each other and trade weapons . India and Russians have one of the most weird friendship of the 21st century . But what USA will say if asked whom will you support Russia India or china ? US will say Yes India . But will you sanction Ban on India in the future ? Ans ?

Let's put this same question to China
Whom will you support US India Pakistan . China: Pakistan . Out Best friends . Twist in question 2) Whom will you support Russia or Pakistan ... Ans ?

Pakistan turn :Whom will you support India or China ? Ans: Hell with India . Will be China's best friend . Twist whom will you support US or China ... Ans: Bhai leave us alone

What the hell are we even doing in this world .

Confused chemistry between friends and foes

Did you see the problem ? Yes everything . So shut up and do what we are doing . Pay buy make in India

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

maaza aa jayega, lets see how it goes..

That guy looks like a hard boiled egg.

 

[gau8av]

That guy looks like a hard boiled egg.

he does

anyway, that translates roughly to "now we're talking"

my point was that it'd be great if India did something ballsy like that, unlikely though, its a delicate situation and the best policy is to ignore any calls for sanctions and not say anything about a situation which is not in our neighborhood and which we have nothing to do with.

China hasn't "openly supported" the Russian position on Ukraine either, right ?

 

[Mike_Brando]

We need to

1)Sign pakfa contract asap
2)Sign mlu deal for mki's with special focus on engines,radar,irst and jammers.Include maws and rwr's too
3)Get 2-3 gorkshov class frigates to plug shortages before p-17a starts

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4)Make progress on gas pipeline if feasable
5)Make progress on MTA.

6)Award them project p75i for submarines to compensate for other projects they have lost but only if they agree to install spherical sonar in it like the yasen class submarines.

"This class is the first Russian submarine to be equipped with a spherical sonar, designated as Irtysh-Amfora. The device (allegedly the Irtysh/Amfora sonar system) was tested on a modified Yankee class submarine.[40] The sonar system consists of a spherical bow array, flank arrays and a towed array. Due to the large size of this spherical array, the torpedo tubes are slanted"
Yasen / Graney Class Submarine - Naval Technology
Yasen-class submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

@DrSomnath999

Is the point number 6 feasable??

We need to

1)Sign pakfa contract asap
2)Sign mlu deal for mki's with special focus on engines,radar,irst and jammers.Include maws and rwr's too
3)Get 2-3 gorkshov class frigates to plug shortages before p-17a starts

View attachment 162911 View attachment 162912
4)Make progress on gas pipeline if feasable
5)Make progress on MTA.

6)Award them project p75i for submarines to compensate for other projects they have lost but only if they agree to install spherical sonar in it like the yasen class submarines.

"This class is the first Russian submarine to be equipped with a spherical sonar, designated as Irtysh-Amfora. The device (allegedly the Irtysh/Amfora sonar system) was tested on a modified Yankee class submarine.[40] The sonar system consists of a spherical bow array, flank arrays and a towed array. Due to the large size of this spherical array, the torpedo tubes are slanted"
Yasen / Graney Class Submarine - Naval Technology
Yasen-class submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

@DrSomnath999

Is the point number 6 feasable??

Paa ji personally i feel that the I.N. should go ahead and order at least 3 or possibly Gorskov Class frigates to immediately replace the 3 obsolete Godavari class ones.These frigates will definitely be oost to the I.N. offensive capabilities and will also add a lot operational flexibility to the I.N. because of their ASW weaponry.What's your opinion???

 

[kaku1]

Paa ji personally i feel that the I.N. should go ahead and order at least 3 or possibly Gorskov Class frigates to immediately replace the 3 obsolete Godavari class ones.These frigates will definitely be oost to the I.N. offensive capabilities and will also add a lot operational flexibility to the I.N. because of their ASW weaponry.What's your opinion???

I again ask, why Groshkov. When you have easy access to BrahMos, Barak-8 and MF-STAR or 2238 STAR. And a shipyard called Pipavav.

 

[Bang Galore]

For New Delhi only a blockbuster deal i.e., for laying the proposed $40 billion long-distance oil and gas pipeline from Russia to India can turn around the trade prospect to touch over $100 billion. Energy diplomacy can replace the waning defence business and bring rationality to Indo-Russian relations.

This is pretty much garbage, no one should be wasting time & money on a pipeline to nowhere. At present costs, gas in liquid form (LNG) is far more cost effective. Time to stop wasting time thinking of pipelines & instead get the best deals on LNG.

 

[he-man]

I again ask, why Groshkov. When you have easy access to BrahMos, Barak-8 and MF-STAR or 2238 STAR. And a shipyard called Pipavav.

Because piparav cannot design such a frigate.

 

[greatone]

This is pretty much garbage, no one should be wasting time & money on a pipeline to nowhere. At present costs, gas in liquid form (LNG) is far more cost effective. Time to stop wasting time thinking of pipelines & instead get the best deals on LNG.

How much cheaper would a theoretical pipeline from Russia to India be as compared to LNG?

 

[punit]

well we have a history of surprising people

Your best surprise are reserved for ur own citizens: east pakistani , balochi, hazaras, ahmadis etc etc are victim of great surprises.