An Indo-Pak wrestling Final

[Indischer]

Why will we want to claim indian ancestory?Infact tribes close to Pakistani border on indian side are also Pakistani like the people of Indian punjab,rajasthan,Kashmiri,hell even modi is a Pakistani.

Pakistan will only claim Indus valley civilization and its people as there ancestor and IVC has nothing do to with india.It was a independent territory for centuries until merged with india because of foriegn invaders

Problem is, none of them identify themselves as Pakistani. Find me ONE text of Hinduism where they identify themselves as Pakistani. I can give you plenty of references where they call themselves Bharateeya. They called their land Bharatakhanda/Bharatvarsha. Their culture has long died out in Pakistan. Pakistanis can claim some good contributions to Islamic art and culture, but I'm afraid they cannot lay claim to Indian culture anymore, not when they aren't Indian in the first place.

 

[INDIC]

A few here like to have the cake and eat it too. Observe how some here claim to be the original inhabitants of IVC, eagerly pitch for an Aryan invasion, and yet also claim credit for the Vedic civilization.

Ancient Aryan has an airlift from Kabul to Delhi without disturbing the ancient Nordic settlement of the people of Indus valley civilization and the of ancient Nordic settlement of Indus valley between Radcliffe line and Durand line still carry the pure ancient genes .

 

[farhan_9909]

Our Indian culture until Indus river had nothing to do with Pashtuns and Baloch, even Afghans agree to this. Both Indians and Afghans believe Indus river was the border between India/Bharat and Afghanistan.

South asia to be precise.India and Pakistan both were carved out of British india."India"(Not to be confused with British India) is fairly a new name with no history at all.

What i don''t get is no Pakistani claim that they are related to the rest of the indian civilization than why indians are hell bent on proving that IVC was a indian civilization and not ancient Pakistani..Why do you people are only after our history?

 

[halupridol]

South asia to be precise.India and Pakistan both were carved out of British india."India"(Not to be confused with British India) is fairly a new name with no history at all.

What i don''t get is no Pakistani claim that they are related to the rest of the indian civilization than why indians are hell bent on proving that IVC was a indian civilization and not ancient Pakistani..Why do you people are only after our history?

there is nothing to prove,,,,,it is Indian...
btw your original map of Pakistan was epic

 

[Indischer]

Ancient Aryan has an airlift from Kabul to Delhi without disturbing the ancient Nordic settlement of the people of Indus valley civilization and the of ancient Nordic settlement of Indus valley between Radcliffe line and Durand line still carry the pure ancient genes .

Time to rename Snow White and the Seven dwarfs as Ek Pakistani kudi aur saath Dravidian launde.

 

[INDIC]

South asia to be precise.India and Pakistan both were carved out of British india."India"(Not to be confused with British India) is fairly a new name with no history at all.

What i don''t get is no Pakistani claim that they are related to the rest of the indian civilization than why indians are hell bent on proving that IVC was a indian civilization and not ancient Pakistani..Why do you people are only after our history?

The name India is being used since 500BC for the people for East of Indus river, same with Bharatavarsha the name for entire land East of Indus from Gandhara to Dravida in South India. All foreigners referred our land as India/Hind, I never heard any ancient name of 'South Asia'.

 

[farhan_9909]

Problem is, none of them identify themselves as Pakistani. Find me ONE text of Hinduism where they identify themselves as Pakistani. I can give you plenty of references where they call themselves Bharateeya. They called their land Bharatakhanda/Bharatvarsha. Their culture has long died out in Pakistan. Pakistanis can claim some good contributions to Islamic art and culture, but I'm afraid they cannot lay claim to Indian culture anymore, not when they aren't Indian in the first place.

What is Pakistan?A country created for Pakistanis?Right and what are Pakistani People?the indigenous people of Indus valley civilization.I might not be a Punjabi/Sindhi but no one can deny the fact that they are the indigenous people of Indus valley civilization,They might be muslim by now but Indus valley civilization,rigveda composition,Sanskrit and yoga origin were all done by there ancestors

And again sindhi/Punjabi are Pakistani today and Pakistani history is the history of its people.

NOTE:I repeat it again,India has nothing to do with Indus valley civilization as it was a independent territory far away from mainland india(Modern South india)

The name India is being used since 500BC for the people for East of Indus river, same with Bharatavarsha the name for entire land East of Indus from Gandhara to Dravida in South India. All foreigners referred our land as India/Hind, I never heard any ancient name of 'South Asia'.

Reading the ticker member post in the history forum.He claimed that mainland india always was south india as from there First human migrated to india from africa.Anything east of Central india was a independent territory having passed through many civilization which again by no mean were similar to any other civilization from the mainland india(South india) starting from mehrgarh to modern day Pakistan.

He has one hell of knowledge regarding Pakistan and South asian history

there is nothing to prove,,,,,it is Indian...
btw your original map of Pakistan was epic

Well be it after a decades or centuries one day we will again reclaim our territory.

 

[INDIC]

Time to rename Snow White and the Seven dwarfs as Ek Pakistani kudi aur saath Dravidian launde.

Ispe to ek LOLywood gandasa movie ban sakti hai. khoob maar dhar ke sath.

 

[Indischer]

What is Pakistan?A country created for Pakistanis?Right and what are Pakistani People?the indigenous people of Indus valley civilization.I might not be a Punjabi/Sindhi but no one can deny the fact that they are the indigenous people of Indus valley civilization,They might be muslim by now but Indus valley civilization,rigveda composition,Sanskrit and yoga origin were all done by there ancestors

And again sindhi/Punjabi are Pakistani today and Pakistani history is the history of its people.

NOTE:I repeat it again,India has nothing to do with Indus valley civilization as it was a independent territory far away from mainland india(Modern South india)

Answer this simple question and you shall know where you are wrong. Pakistan ka matlab kya?

Rome controlled the northern coast of Africa for over a millenium. But no Tunisian or Algerian is called a Roman/Italian today, are they? They're culturally Arabs today, and even though it was their ancestors who built the ancient Roman cities that today lie in ruins there, they are considered part of classical Roman civilization, not Arab.

Similarly, it was Indians who built those civilizations, at a time when India extended right upto Kabul in the Northwest. Has nothing to do with the culture and civilization found in Pakistan today. Besides, who says mainland India is synonymous with South India? You?

 

[INDIC]

Reading the ticker member post in the history forum.He claimed that mainland india always was south india as from there First human migrated to india from africa.Anything east of Central india was a independent territory having passed through many civilization which again by no mean were similar to any other civilization from the mainland india(South india) starting from mehrgarh to modern day Pakistan.

He has one hell of knowledge regarding Pakistan and South asian history

That's the fakest history. Everything East of Indus was India.

 

[halupridol]

Time to rename Snow White and the Seven dwarfs as Ek Pakistani kudi aur saath Dravidian launde.

Well be it after a decades or centuries one day we will again reclaim our territory.

 

[farhan_9909]

Answer this simple question and you shall know where you are wrong. Pakistan ka matlab kya?

Rome controlled the northern coast of Africa for over a millenium. But no Tunisian or Algerian is called a Roman/Italian today, are they? They're culturally Arabs today, and even though it was their ancestors who built the ancient Roman cities that today lie in ruins there, they are considered part of classical Roman civilization, not Arab.

Similarly, it was Indians who built those civilizations, at a time when India extended right upto Kabul in the Northwest. Has nothing to do with the culture and civilization found in Pakistan today. Besides, who says mainland India is synonymous with South India? You?

You never controlled present day Pakistan because all of the states were independent(Now don't post me the map of Ashoka empire as he again was a Pakistani)

Name me any single Indian from IVC?

That's the fakest history. Everything East of Indus was India.

If Pakistani doesn't identify themselves as indian but rather the people of IVC than they are under identity crisis

lol

 

[INDIC]

If Pakistani doesn't identify themselves as indian but rather the people of IVC than they are under identity crisis

lol

Then you try to fake the ancient history. Here is the proof from ancient books of Indians, Greek, Arabs, Persians, Chinese to tell what was India.

uttaraṃ yatsamudrasya himādreścaiva dakṣiṇam
varṣaṃ tadbhārataṃ nāma bhāratī yatra santatiḥ
उत्तरं यत्समुद्रस्य हिमाद्रेश्चैव दक्षिणम् ।
वर्षं तद् भारतं नाम भारती यत्र संततिः ।।
"The country (varṣam) that lies north of the ocean and south of the snowy mountains is called Bhāratam; there dwell the descendants of Bharata."

Here the things Greek wrote

"India then being four-sided in plan, the side which looks to the Orient and that to the South, the Great Sea compasseth; that towards the Arctic is divided by the mountain chain of Hēmōdus from Scythia, inhabited by that tribe of Scythians who are called Sakai; and on the fourth side, turned towards the West, the Indus marks the boundary, the biggest or nearly so of all rivers after the Nile."

Names of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Dem!god]

You never controlled present day Pakistan because all of the states were independent(Now don't post me the map of Ashoka empire as he again was a Pakistani)

Name me any single Indian from IVC?



If Pakistani doesn't identify themselves as indian but rather the people of IVC than they are under identity crisis

lol

ashoka was pakistanii...

u tell me name of any person from IVC and prove it...

 

[halupridol]

Then you try to fake the ancient history. Here is the proof from ancient books of Indians, Greek, Arabs, Persians, Chinese to tell what was India.
uttaraṃ yatsamudrasya himādreścaiva dakṣiṇam
varṣaṃ tadbhārataṃ nāma bhāratī yatra santatiḥ
उत्तरं यत्समुद्रस्य हिमाद्रेश्चैव दक्षिणम् ।
वर्षं तद् भारतं नाम भारती यत्र संततिः ।।
"The country (varṣam) that lies north of the ocean and south of the snowy mountains is called Bhāratam; there dwell the descendants of Bharata."

Here the things Greek wrote

"India then being four-sided in plan, the side which looks to the Orient and that to the South, the Great Sea compasseth; that towards the Arctic is divided by the mountain chain of Hēmōdus from Scythia, inhabited by that tribe of Scythians who are called Sakai; and on the fourth side, turned towards the West, the Indus marks the boundary, the biggest or nearly so of all rivers after the Nile."

Names of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

itni jaldi kyun post kiya yeh?
abhi ek do "original maps" aur aa jane dete,,,maza aa raha tha..