An Era of Darkness: The British Empire in India’

[lonelyman]

So? Other parts of China such as the Yangze Delta region didn't have industrialization at the same time?




Modern Indian logic has been a laughing stock in the world.



What a stupid argument. We are grateful for the Soviets who got us rid of Nazis, but that doesn't mean that we can't address the atrocities they have committed.

And it's just disgusting of you to mix the Soviet with the Japanese together as the Japanese were the Nazis in the East and the Chinese have every right to condemn them for not apologising for their atrocities.

You are stupid and disgusting as neither we blame the Soviets for whatever goes wrong right now in Germany, nor do the Chinese blame the Japanese for what goes wrong in China. You many Indians on the other hand blame democracy for whatever goes wrong in your country and the next minute you mock others for the lack of democracy.

Well said, without British, current India wouldn't exist. It's British raj merged these hundreds of small states together, and stole other people's land. For example, India northeastern 7 sisters, the people there do not look like subcontinent, before British, India never ruled or have any influence there.

 

[Indiran Chandiran]

What for when the chinese won the war against the japs in the end, while subordinated indian soldiers were polishing their british master's boots, while desi women were offering up themselves to colonial governors in teturn for a better life?


Hahahaha thats the difference. Some ppl have no fight in them, they were n still are the enslaved up to the modern day.

Of course the Chinese won against the Japenese.The Americans & the allies were bystanders . It was the bravery of Chairman Mao, Lin Biao & all the other grandees of the CCP who won the day while Chiang Kai Shek & the Kuomintang were busy playing pocket table tennis .

The rape of Nanjing never happened .Pu Yi was never re instated as Emperor .

Btw - the last part of your lost was eerily prescient about yourself & your countrymen .Don't you swear allegiance to the CCP before the country. This certainly wouldn't be De meaning to you or your ancestors .After all it started in the 16 th century when your ancestors started kowtowing to Manchus & sporting queues.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

@Indiran Chandiran sir

Of course the Chinese won against the Japs.

The bolded part is a racial slur for Japanese, would be good if you can edit it out.given we are more civilized than these.

 

[Indiran Chandiran]

Well said, without British, current India wouldn't exist. It's British raj merged these hundreds of small states together, and stole other people's land. For example, India northeastern 7 sisters, the people there do not look like subcontinent, before British, India never ruled or have any influence there.

Without the British , the US would still be populated by the local Indian tribes , my dear chopsuey with Szechuan sauce.So would Australia.And speaking of the PRC ,where would you be without the Mongols ?After all Yunan , Xinjiang & Tibet were first brought under Dadu under Kubhilai Khan only to lose these provinces with the exception of Yunan under the Ming , brought under Beijing once again under the Manchus who also brought Manchuria under Sinic rule .

Where would you be without these people whom you still see as foreign barbarians ?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Well said, without British, current India wouldn't exist. It's British raj merged these hundreds of small states together, and stole other people's land. For example, India northeastern 7 sisters, the people there do not look like subcontinent, before British, India never ruled or have any influence there.

Acutally not just without the British, without the generosity of other members of the 8-nation alliance India would have never overthrown Qings and become a nation

 

[Indiran Chandiran]

@Indiran Chandiran sir


The bolded part is a racial slur for Japanese, would be good if you can edit it out.given we are more civilized than these.

Done. Please don't address me as Sir.Besides the Wumao first referred to the Japanese as Japs.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Done. Please don't address me as Sir.Besides the Wumao first referred to the Japanese as Japs.

Already reported that

 

[lonelyman]

Without the British , the US would still be populated by the local Indian tribes , my dear chopsuey with Szechuan sauce.So would Australia.And speaking of the PRC ,where would you be without the Mongols ?After all Yunan , Xinjiang & Tibet were first brought under Dadu under Kubhilai Khan only to lose these provinces with the exception of Yunan under the Ming , brought under Beijing once again under the Manchus who also brought Manchuria under Sinic rule .

Where would you be without these people whom you still see as foreign barbarians ?

Not saying British are saints, your argument is flawed.
Did Americans publish book an era of darkness under British, did we do the same darkness under Qing, as a matter of fact, Mongos and Manchu are both considered an ethnic group on equal standing with Han, we are all Chinese

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Not saying British are saints, your argument is flawed.
Did Americans publish book an era of darkness under British, did we do the same darkness under Qing, as a matter of fact, Mongos and Manchu are both considered an ethnic group on equal standing with Han

Not only that, you Chinese do not even complain about Japanese atrocities, since you guys quintessence of pragmatism.

Guess you Chinese are too mature people and nation to complaining and seem weak about something so horrific as comfort women atrocities

 

[lonelyman]

Not only that, you Chinese do not even complain about Japanese atrocities, since you guys quintessence of pragmatism.

Guess you Chinese are too mature people and nation to complaining and seem weak about something so horrific as comfort women atrocities

Total bullshit, why do u think we have the lowest rating on Japan while u guys are kissing their ***. Old Chinese saying, 100 years is not late to seek revenge, just a matter of time.

You guys bitching about formal colonial master, but the elites proud speaking their language, send children to have education, have bank account and busy buying real estate there, no wonder our German friend call you Indians joke

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Total bullshit, why do u think we have the lowest rating on Japan while u guys are kissing their ***

You have eternal love for the Japanese, no wonder some Chinese even consider Japanese ODA as war reparations.

Its only us Indians who hate British and blame them for colonization.

 

[Spring Onion]

Era of Darkness?

Hmmm and I was under the impression that the British Empire did take some GOOD steps to mitigate era of Darkness in India. For example (quoting few bellow)


"
"1. Social Reforms

The Religious and Social Reform of India started with the influence of Western culture and education. British supported Indian reformers in eradication of evil practices.
They introduced
1. Widows' Remarriage Act, 1856
2. Abolition of Sati : 1829
3. child marriage restraint act
4. Act against child labour ( This was not so effective)

2. English Education


3. Transportation and communication
They improved transportation and communication for ease of administration
a. Indian railway
b. Posts and telegraph services.

Ref: Wikipedia

4. India Census ( Started 1871 , frequency once in 10 years )
British started the census to get the statistical data of the age, caste, religion, occupation, education, and infirmities of the population in the year 1871.

Ref: Wikipedia

5. Geological survey of India (1851)

It was established in 1861, by the much revered Alexander Cunningham known as the "Father of Indian Archaeology".

This institution made maps of India .Many places & villages of India still uses the maps made during British time!!.

6. Asiatic society of Bengal
Objective of this society is to preserve Indian monuments, literary scripts etc.

7. Democratic system ."


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[Indiran Chandiran]

Not saying British are saints, your argument is flawed.
Did Americans publish book an era of darkness under British, did we do the same darkness under Qing, as a matter of fact, Mongos and Manchu are both considered an ethnic group on equal standing with Han, we are all Chinese

Not saying the British are saints?? From questioning the sovereign status of my country , you suddenly soften your views to asking whether it's right on our part to label British rule over us as a period of darkness ?

Well , let us debate & decide what it was !! You can restrict yourself to matters concerning your nation.


I'm weepinng tears of joy at your reconciliation with the Manchus & Mongolians of Inner Mongolia .While you're in the throes of such brotherly passion , May I suggest you start recognising Kubhilai Khan's contribution to Sinic history as well .

Opening up & publicising the ruins of Shantung to the general populace would be a good start.

Another point - the Caucasians would never see British rule over them as a period of darkness .You'd have to lose that question to the American Indians or the Aborigines in Australia for that .

Era of Darkness?

Hmmm and I was under the impression that the British Empire did take some GOOD steps to mitigate era of Darkness in India. For example (quoting few bellow)


"
"1. Social Reforms

The Religious and Social Reform of India started with the influence of Western culture and education. British supported Indian reformers in eradication of evil practices.
They introduced
1. Widows' Remarriage Act, 1856
2. Abolition of Sati : 1829
3. child marriage restraint act
4. Act against child labour ( This was not so effective)

2. English Education


3. Transportation and communication
They improved transportation and communication for ease of administration
a. Indian railway
b. Posts and telegraph services.

Ref: Wikipedia

4. India Census ( Started 1871 , frequency once in 10 years )
British started the census to get the statistical data of the age, caste, religion, occupation, education, and infirmities of the population in the year 1871.

Ref: Wikipedia

5. Geological survey of India (1851)

It was established in 1861, by the much revered Alexander Cunningham known as the "Father of Indian Archaeology".

This institution made maps of India .Many places & villages of India still uses the maps made during British time!!.

6. Asiatic society of Bengal
Objective of this society is to preserve Indian monuments, literary scripts etc.

7. Democratic system ."


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You could add the vast irrigation canals in your part of the Punjab , the formation of Waqf board , the recognition of the Aligarh Muslim University as an independent university , the separate electorates , the kid gloves treatment to the Muslim League also to that list.

Btw - not a single Muslim League leader spent a single night in jail in the cause of Indian independence .

One can see why you feel so grateful to the British .

 

[lonelyman]

You have eternal love for the Japanese, no wonder some Chinese even consider Japanese ODA as war reparations.

Its only us Indians who hate British and blame them for colonization.

Yeah, like mocking other people for not speaking your master's language well, please we Chinese as oldest continuous civilization, are proud of our own language and culture, we can achieve modernization and return to number one without being like you guys - adopting your masters tongue as a national language

Or like your elites busing taking bribes and sending money to British bank account, like sending children to school there, like busy buying real estate and immigrate there?

Save your stupidity for your own internal consumption

Not saying the British are saints?? From questioning the sovereign status of my country , you suddenly soften your views to asking whether it's right on our part to label British rule over us as a period of darkness ?

Well , let us debate & decide what it was !! You can restrict yourself to matters concerning your nation.


I'm weepinng tears of joy at your reconciliation with the Manchus & Mongolians of Inner Mongolia .While you're in the throes of such brotherly passion , May I suggest you start recognising Kubhilai Khan's contribution to Sinic history as well .

Opening up & publicising the ruins of Shantung to the general populace would be a good start.

Another point - the Caucasians would never see British rule over them as a period of darkness .You'd have to lose that question to the American Indians or the Aborigines in Australia for that .




You could add the vast irrigation canals in your part of the Punjab , the formation of Waqf board , the recognition of the Aligarh Muslim University as an independent university , the separate electorates , the kid gloves treatment to the Muslim League also to that list.

Btw - not a single Muslim League leader spent a single night in jail in the cause of Indian independence .

One can see why you feel so grateful to the British .

 

[Indiran Chandiran]

Total bullshit, why do u think we have the lowest rating on Japan while u guys are kissing their ***. 100 years not late to seek avenge, just a matter of time.

You guys bitching about formal colonial master, but the elites proud speaking their language, send children to have education, have bank account and busy buying real estate there, no wonder our German friend call you Indians joke

If you hate the Japanese so.much , why did you accept their investment 30 years ago? Why is Japan still the biggest investor in PRC ? Aren't you sucking up to the Japanese ?

We speak their language , play their game , have taken the best that their culture & society has to offer coz we don't hate the British .We have our grudges against them but hatred isn't part of it.

You & your people are a different species in that respect .But you know your lot better.

Yeah, like mocking other people for not speaking your master's language well, please we Chinese as oldest continuous civilization, are proud of our own language and culture, we can achieve modernization and return to number one without being like you guys - adopting your masters tongue as a national language

Or like your elites busing taking bribes and sending money to British bank account, like sending children to school there, like busy buying real estate and immigrate there?

Save your stupidity for your own internal consumption

Nobody's interested in learning Mandarin , you Wumao .Offer any non Mandarin , non Engish speaking commoner in any part of the world the opportunity to learn Mandarin & English & see what his reaction would be .

Your place in the world is East Asia & that's where you will be .One way or another .Surrounded on all sides by hostile nations .All of your own making .The US , Japan , Australia & India will ensure that .

You will have splendid company though with your iron brothers though.Pakistan , DPRK & South Sudan .

Meanwhile you can read about the splendid exploits of your paramount leader & his extended family . Remember you read it first here .Since this may come as a shock to you .


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...amily-has-wealth-of-hundreds-of-millions.html


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