An Alternative comparative analysis : LCA VS JF-17

[Windjammer]

and pakistani's dont ? JF-17 cough cough

Tried, tested and above all INDUCTED !!!!
Does that rings any bells.

 

[desiman]

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FC -/JF 17 LCA -Tejas
Financials
R&D Cost USD 450m to 500m USD 480m to 700m
Unit Cost USD 15-20m USD 17m-26m

Dimensions
Wing span 9 m 8.2m
Height 5.10m 4.4m
length 14m 13.2m


Operational Figures
Speed 1.6Mach 1.7Mach
Ceiling 16,500m 16,400m
Range 3,000km 840km
Inflight refueling Under dev. Yes
G Limit 8.5 9 / -3.5
Weight(take off) 12,700kg 8500kg
Weapons load 3,900kg 4000kg

Engine/Arms
Engine RD -33 turbo Kaveri GTX-35VS
Fire Control Radar Grifo S-7 GE AN/APG 67C multi mode
BVR SD-10 Astra ,R-73RDM2
Short AAM AIM -9P/PL-9/Magic 2 Magic2/AA8

Important Dates
Project started on 1994 1985
First test flight Sep 3rd,2003 Jan 4th,2001
Serial Production January,2006 2010
Induction Nos 150 200+

 

[desiman]

Found this at another blog, makes sense when you read it

LCA
1. Better technology.(avionics airframe composites etc etc)
2. Better engine
3. not a main fighter but only for numbers.
4. Though astra is still in development but it shud be able to use a lot of missiles bombs etc etc.
5. Full digital FBW
6. more expensive than JF17 but offers higher end technology. Though it needs to be seen how much the technology transforms in gains.
7. Will help in dev of MCA IJT AJT etc etc.
8. Dev time is killing and preventing india from even purchasing foreign fighters and in a way weaking AF in the medium term.Thouhg might be benefitial at the long term.
9 Naval version and Trainer version too in the line.

JF17
1. Faster development time.
2. Essentially an extension of an already exsitent frame.
3. No composites.
4. Is if Full digital FBW( the current techonology demonstrators )??though final plans for full digital FBW.
5. Problem with the engine as russians are not intereseted in supplying RD33 ( due to indian pressure.
6. Missile to be used SD10 is stil under development.
7. It will form the main frontline fighter for Paksitan. and needs to compete with MKI and even PAK-FA in the future.
8. lower costs might force up compromising in better avionics etc.
9 good for developing countires .will help china make up numbers in export.
10. Budget prob will force paksitan compromise on numbers when J10 comes out or if F16 comes in.
11. The RCS comparison and radars used in the two will greatly determine who comes out. better or comparable.

 

[desiman]

Tejas : Debut flight on Jan 4, 2001.
JF-17 : Debut flight Aug 25, 2003.

Tejas : 7 prototypes in the air. 1000 test flights completed.
JF-17 : 8 prototypes in the air. Test-flights unknown.

Tejas : 8 weapon stations, 4 tons of load (max).
JF-17 : 7 weapon stations, 3.5 tons of load (max).

Tejas : 1 squadron + 20 trainers ordered.
JF-17 : PLAAF has rejected it. 2 squadrons ordered by PAF.

Tejas : Induction in 2011.
JF-17 : No firm date known.

Tejas : Need of changing the current GE-404 engine expressed.
JF-17 : Need of changing the current RD-93 engine expressed.

Tejas : Naval & trainer versions nearing completion.
JF-17 : No Naval version exists. Status of trainer unknown.

Tejas : Quad digital Fly-By-Wire.
JF-17 : FBW only in pitch axis.

Tejas : Achieved Mach 1.6, 15kms altitude and 6g.
JF-17 : Achieved figures unknown. Mach 1.6, 15 kms altitude and 8g targeted.

Tejas : Undergone weapons trials. Dumb bombs, drop tanks, missiles carried.
JF-17 : Status of weapons testing unknown.

Tejas : Elta radar.
JF-17 : Chinese KLJ-3 (?) radar.

 

[Windjammer]

JF-17, Less than a decade from drawing board to a Squadron being inducted and deployed.

LCA, 25 Years in making, half a dozen prototypes produced, Kaveri engine still a distant possibility. Every possibility of an Arjun type spectacular.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Desidog, can you shut this crap posting ??

What is the use of posting old or speculative specifications ??

Have you read the crap filled articles before you even posted them ???

Thread close as it is full of crap articles and information.

 

[Awesome]

JF-17

LCA

Seriously this topic has been done to death. With the result of Indians quoting a gazillion super cool Specs that the LCA has and Pakistanis shooting it all down by the simple argument that the LCA is still no where near completion.

So we'll talk about this when it comes to it. For now, let it go.