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NEW DELHI: India is set to deliver more arms to Afghanistan to help it fight Islamist militants, Kabul's envoy to New Delhi said, even if Pakistan is wary of closer military cooperation between countries lying to its east and west.

India has provided a little over $2 billion in economic assistance to Afghanistan in the last 15 years, but has been more measured in providing weapons in order to avoid a backlash from Pakistan, which sees Afghanistan as its area of influence.

Last December, New Delhi announced the supply of four attack helicopters in India's first transfer of lethal equipment to the government in Kabul since the hardline Islamist Taliban movement was toppled.

Shaida Mohammad Abdali, the Afghan ambassador to India, said regional security was deteriorating and Afghan national forces were in dire need of military supplies to tackle the Taliban, Islamic State and other militant groups.

"We are grateful for the four helicopters. But we need more, we need much more. Today we are heading into a situation that is worrisome for everyone in the region including India," he told news agency Reuters in an interview.

On Aug. 29, the head of the Afghan army, General Qadam Shah Shahim, is expected in New Delhi to submit a list of military equipment drawn up in consultation with the U.S. military, Indian defence officials said.


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It is not yet clear how much would be paid for and how much would be handed over for free.

The equipment includes more Mi-25s, smaller helicopters used for transporting troops and medical emergencies, and spares for existing Russian-origin aircraft in the Afghan air force fleet.

But the move to increase cooperation with Afghanistan is likely to aggravate fears in Pakistan of being wedged between two hostile neighbours.

Relations with both countries have cooled lately.

Afghanistan says Pakistan must do more to stop militants operating on its territory, while India has blamed Pakistan for unrest in Kashmir.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi turned up the dial a notch by making a rare reference to Pakistan's restive Baluchistan province in his speech on Independence Day.

Asked about the prospect of closer military ties between Afghanistan and India, a Pakistan foreign ministry spokesman said the government did not comment on bilateral ties between two countries.

But he warned against attempts to destabilise Pakistan, which, like its arch-rival India, has a nuclear arsenal.

"Our expectation is that India should not be allowed to use Afghan soil to create instability in Pakistan."

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/amid...an-more-arms-1448964?pfrom=home-lateststories
 
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Lol...What America and its Allies couldn't do it with their Latest Tech...A Third World Country with its Imported Arms is gonna do it...! I salute the Confidence though...!
 
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@That Guy

I was just saying about this to you this morning.
My point still stands, and the article doesn't really negate what I said. Intent and practicality are two different things; for example, Modi's intent was to suppress the protests in Kashmir as quickly as possible, practically they've gotten worse.

I'm not mentioning Kashmir out of spite or to troll, it was the first example I could think of. Even if you disagree with the example, I hope you understood my actual point.
 
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Lol...What America and its Allies couldn't do it with their Latest Tech...A Third World Country with its Imported Arms is gonna do it...! I salute the Confidence though...!

So what shall be done?

Leave Afghanistan for Taliban and you and rest of the world enjoy sariah and jihad factory there?
 
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So what shall be done?

Leave Afghanistan for Taliban and you and rest of the world enjoy sariah and jihad factory there?

No, the afghan govt. doesn't have be exclusively Taliban but bringing them inside political fold is irrefutably critical to ensuring Afghanistan's long term stability.

It's pivotal to recognize the fact that they represent the aspirations and grievances of Pashtuns of Afghanistan which make up about half of country's population. The Taliban are merely a violent manifestation of deep-rooted, victim-hood of local Pashtuns who've historically been targeted and marginalized by more assertive (often foreign backed) ethnic groups from the north.

So as long as Taliban are humiliated and dismissed as mere blood-thirsty barbaric savages and treated as such, the Pashtuns, by extension, will continue to feel alienated and remain sympathetic to Taliban. From the context of perpetual local support, it's quite easy to see why Taliban movement is unexpected to fizzle out any time soon (unless off-course serious efforts are made to address the concerns of Pashtuns).
 
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No, the afghan govt. doesn't have be exclusively Taliban but bringing them inside political fold is irrefutably critical to ensuring Afghanistan's long term stability.

It's pivotal to recognize the fact that they represent the aspirations and grievances of Pashtuns of Afghanistan which make up about half of country's population. The Taliban are merely a violent manifestation of deep-rooted, victim-hood of local Pashtuns who've historically been targeted and marginalized by more assertive (often foreign backed) ethnic groups from the north.

So as long as Taliban are humiliated and dismissed as mere blood-thirsty barbaric savages and treated as such, the Pashtuns, by extension, will continue to feel alienated and remain sympathetic to Taliban. From the context of perpetual local support, it's quite easy to see why Taliban movement is unexpected to fizzle out any time soon (unless off-course serious efforts are made to address the concerns of Pashtuns).

Whatever reasons aside, I do not aspire to see an outfit like Taliban to come to any sort of power. They are regressive and inhumane.

Personally for me, its sickening to imagine them ruling afghans again. Afghans need better lives.

Your argument could well be more realistic than mine, but I would love to see any alternative to keep those savage aside.
 
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Whatever reasons aside, I do not aspire to see an outfit like Taliban to come to any sort of power. They are regressive and inhumane.

Personally for me, its sickening to imagine them ruling afghans again. Afghans need better lives.

Your argument could well be more realistic than mine, but I would love to see any alternative to keep those savage aside.

Taliban rule in the 90s was very hard-handed, and their ways harsh - agreed.

But equally harsh (if not more) were the battle tactics employed by Northern Alliance during the Afghan Civil War. In that war, no participating group can be said to be innocent of human rights violations and brutal suppression of members from rival factions, even non-combatants. Abdul Rasheed Dostum, a prominent anti-Taliban figure from Northern Alliance has had a history that would put even the most fierce Talibs to shame.

Afghanistan's modern history is riddled with wars and ruthless fighting groups that have all been equally guilty of gross human rights violation. The Taliban got the most bad-rep as they fell "out of favor" of the world opinion post 9/11.
 
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I would like to know what exactly are we supplying them with other than Mis.

Cheetahs? Dhruvs? MPVs (they could do with some there)?

ANA is a capable fighting force but their terrain and limited transport logistics are a challenge.

They need a good transportation logistics masterplan.

If only we were manufacturing transport aircraft.

MRTA is still stuck in a limbo...
 
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ANA is a capable fighting force but their terrain and limited transport logistics are a challenge.
They need a good transportation logistics masterplan.
If only we were manufacturing transport aircraft.

And a vision to fight for.
 
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Let Indians waste their money on ANA after america and allied countries.
 
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