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Europe is a vassal of USA. Germany is an occupied territory.Germany was occupied by USA & USSR after WW2. USSR left in 1989 but USA never left. So, current Germany is USA occupied, it constitution is written by USA and its deep state is USA intelligence. So, Germany and otehr EU states will follow USA dictats. But other than these white christian countries, none else will follow USA> EU is a worthless entity as they don't have much resources or technology of their own. The countries of Russia, China, India, Middle east, SE Asia (except for USA occupied Taiwan, Japan & S.Korea), Africa etc will not follow USA dictats against Huawei.

So, except for white Roman christians, none else will follow USA against China.
Europe is not worthless but an alternative source of innovation in the world. Huawei have immensely benefitted from its dealings with British ARM in the aspect of developing powerful microprocessors for instance. You cannot rule out significance of Europe in the capacity of being a tech provider and contributor in R&D programs.

Tell that to successful Chinese businessmen and they’ll look at you like you are an idiot.
Indeed.

Chinese Corporate Giants such as Huawei, Alibaba, Tencent, and Haier are all success stories of CAPITALISM in China.
 
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Indeed.

Chinese Corporate Giants such as Huawei, Alibaba, Tencent, and Haier are all success stories of CAPITALISM in China.

How about Japan, Korea, and a boatload of other countries in the world

This guy spews ridiculous nonsense.
 
Tell that to successful Chinese CEOs and they’ll look at you like you are an idiot.
Who said that one has to be capitalist to be successful? Secondly, CEOs are not capitalists. CEOs don't own the company but just head it. It is like calling Prime Minister as king. A big difference between capitalists and executives is that capitalists are dynasts who transfer the ownership of their empire to their children and hence create a generational monopoly. Executives are merit based and don't transfer ownership of assets. For example, Rockefeller family and Rothschild family owns most of the corporates in USA due to their century old monopoly of oil (Rockefeller) and banking empire (Rothschild). Rockefeller family controls most of the world's oil which is allied with USA. Exxon, Mobil, Conoco, Shell, Chevron etc are all owned by Rockefeller trusts. World Trade Centre which fell in 9-11 was also owned by Rockefeller family. Rothschild own the banking empire and control the dollar flow and benefit hugely from the financial transactions. This is capitalism- ownership is with dynasties. The CEOs are just dummies who are only faces to show on TV while the real capitalists lay low to avoid public scrutiny.

Europe is not worthless but an alternative source of innovation in the world. Huawei have immensely benefitted from its dealings with British ARM in the aspect of developing powerful microprocessors for instance. You cannot rule out significance of Europe in the capacity of being a tech provider and contributor in R&D programs.

Europe is worthless. british don't have much of ownership of semiconductor. Semiconductor is monopoly of USA> ARM is open source and is about universal design of chipsets. The real issue is in fabricating the chips. ARM only helps in common design to make things compatible universally. It is not really critical.What is critical is the technology to make 22nm and other nanometre level chipsets

Chinese Corporate Giants such as Huawei, Alibaba, Tencent, and Haier are all success stories of CAPITALISM in China.
It is state capitalism as the ownership is Chinese state. Unlike USA where the owner is some dynast. State capitalism is also called communism. Communism does not prevent state from being capitalist. It just tries to eliminate dynasties and nepotism.
 
It is state capitalism as the ownership is Chinese state. Unlike USA where the owner is some dynast. State capitalism is also called communism. .

My brain is hurting after reading this.

If the Chinese state owns everything why is there a stock exchange in Shanghai and why are some Chinese companies listed on the NYSE?

Why are some Chinese CEO’s billionaires if the state is the owner? Is the state just INCREDIBLY generous in their pay or something? The answer is some are owned by the state while others are not.

Some companies are private in the US (just like in pretty much every country in the world) and of course ownership of the company is handed down the family. If I own a restaurant why would I not hand it down to my children?

Other companies are public and part of the ownership is open to anybody who wants to buy into the ownership via stock exchanges while other parts are owned by early investors. So yes if the early investors own greater than 50% they certainly can keep whoever they want as the ones running the company. If less than 50% the CEO potentially can get voted out.
 
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My brain is hurting after reading this.

If the Chinese state owns everything why is there a stock exchange in Shanghai and why are some Chinese companies listed on the NYSE?
The companies still have accountability and hence need to maintain corporate structure. This does not mean capitalism as capitalism is about ownership, not about structure. Your brain is hurting because you are intentionally trying to hide things but I just made it difficult by telling things.

Why are some Chinese CEO’s billionaires if the state is the owner? Is the state just INCREDIBLY generous in their pay or something? The answer is some are owned by the state while others are not.
It is just like Bill Gates became billionaire despite not owning Microsoft. In fact, Microsoft owners have 50% share even without Gates share and hence can overrule Gates. Similarly, Google's founders Larry Page & Sergei Brin were recently ousted from company due to difference in their political opinion. This shows how the founders and CEOs despite being rich don't own the company.

Secondly, the heads of any major mercantile establishment will have wealth in large quantity simply because of the structure in which they are made. Moreover, we can see how billionaires in China can get arrested for corruption and jailed for long duration when the government wants to do so. The government does offer partnership type share holding with some people but that is under terms of CPC. So, the billionaires are notional and only to project soft image in the world. The real authority and ownership is the state itself. For example, Jack Ma who allegedly owns Alibaba is actually CPC member and not the real brain. He is just a face to be shown in media while the real ownership and funding behind it is the CPC itself. Jack Ma was not from a rich family and there is no way Alibaba could grow that rapidly just by one man's leadership. If doing things were that easy, everyone would do it.

Some companies are private in the US (just like in pretty much every country in the world) and of course ownership of the company is handed down the family. If I own a restaurant why would I not hand it down to my children?
This is because the ownership of natural resource is unacceptable. Natural resource or technology is never the doing of one man and hence one man or one family can't own them. One can own units of trade like restaurant but owning things like mines & oil fields, banks (heavy influence of state policy and state funding) or technology assets manufacturing units etc which are developed by state funding R&D is unacceptable. Anything which has original source as "god" (natural resource) or "state" (banks & technology) can't be owned by any family. Almost all the families who own these assets do so because sometime in the past, the politicians/state favoured them and granted concessions to own them which technically is corruption. The state sometimes makes laws favouring certain industries, grants tax concessions, gives advances and loans etc and hence helps the capitalists. So,such kind of political patronage is where the problem comes. Since the origin of all capital intensive activity lies in state concessions, the ownership of all capital assets must be the state alone.
Other companies are public and part of the ownership is open to anybody who wants to buy into the ownership via stock exchanges while other parts are owned by early investors. So yes if the early investors own greater than 50% they certainly can keep whoever they want as the ones running the company. If less than 50% the CEO potentially can get voted out.
The question is about these early investors. How did they get funds to become early investors? What is the source of their funds? The answer is in the history where the family became rich due to state patronage. As a result, the funds which early investors have is actually state funds indirectly. No man is superman that he can do everything himself and become massively rich. It is simply the political connections, favours etc that are responsible for such wealth. That is the exact problem.
 
The companies still have accountability and hence need to maintain corporate structure. This does not mean capitalism as capitalism is about ownership, not about structure. Your brain is hurting because you are intentionally trying to hide things but I just made it difficult by telling things.


It is just like Bill Gates became billionaire despite not owning Microsoft. In fact, Microsoft owners have 50% share even without Gates share and hence can overrule Gates. Similarly, Google's founders Larry Page & Sergei Brin were recently ousted from company due to difference in their political opinion. This shows how the founders and CEOs despite being rich don't own the company.

Secondly, the heads of any major mercantile establishment will have wealth in large quantity simply because of the structure in which they are made. Moreover, we can see how billionaires in China can get arrested for corruption and jailed for long duration when the government wants to do so. The government does offer partnership type share holding with some people but that is under terms of CPC. So, the billionaires are notional and only to project soft image in the world. The real authority and ownership is the state itself. For example, Jack Ma who allegedly owns Alibaba is actually CPC member and not the real brain. He is just a face to be shown in media while the real ownership and funding behind it is the CPC itself. Jack Ma was not from a rich family and there is no way Alibaba could grow that rapidly just by one man's leadership. If doing things were that easy, everyone would do it.


This is because the ownership of natural resource is unacceptable. Natural resource or technology is never the doing of one man and hence one man or one family can't own them. One can own units of trade like restaurant but owning things like mines & oil fields, banks (heavy influence of state policy and state funding) or technology assets manufacturing units etc which are developed by state funding R&D is unacceptable. Anything which has original source as "god" (natural resource) or "state" (banks & technology) can't be owned by any family. Almost all the families who own these assets do so because sometime in the past, the politicians/state favoured them and granted concessions to own them which technically is corruption. The state sometimes makes laws favouring certain industries, grants tax concessions, gives advances and loans etc and hence helps the capitalists. So,such kind of political patronage is where the problem comes. Since the origin of all capital intensive activity lies in state concessions, the ownership of all capital assets must be the state alone.

The question is about these early investors. How did they get funds to become early investors? What is the source of their funds? The answer is in the history where the family became rich due to state patronage. As a result, the funds which early investors have is actually state funds indirectly. No man is superman that he can do everything himself and become massively rich. It is simply the political connections, favours etc that are responsible for such wealth. That is the exact problem.

I already stated that the CEO doesn’t necessarily own the company as per how I said they can be voted out.

Bill Gates and people like Jack Ma (although I agree with you Ma is just a CCP stooge otherwise they would never allow him to get so powerful) founded companies and needed capital to get them running. So they turned to people and companies (or in Jack’s case possibly the CCP) that agreed to offer capital to them in exchange for giving up a certain percentage ownership of the company. These are HIGH risk deals and happen WAY before companies are listed on stock exchanges.

The people with the money could be individual millionaires or companies like Venture capital firms which pool money from thousands of investors into high risk deals with potential high risk returns.

Gates currently owns about 5% of Microsoft. I believe at one point he had close to 50%. If he wasn’t the founder the chances of him owning close to 50% would probably be pretty slim.

Even the CEO of Disney doesn’t have anywhere close to 50% of the company. The Disney family hasn’t run the company since 1971 but still owns about 5%. That is far more than the current CEO owns (like 1M out of 1.5B shares).
 
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Bill Gates and people like Jack Ma (although I agree with you Ma is just a CCP stooge otherwise they would never allow him to get so powerful) founded companies and needed capital to get them running. So they turned to people and companies (or in Jack’s case possibly the CCP) that agreed to offer capital to them in exchange for giving up a certain percentage ownership of the company. These are HIGH risk deals and happen WAY before companies are listed on stock exchanges
No, when there is enough scope for some business, with enough funds and Monopoly political backing, it is a guarantee success. Microsoft was guaranteed to be successful as computers were just starting to be powerful and needed an OS. Google/Yahoo was guaranteed success as the semiconductor was getting miniature and hence server power was rapidly rising. Moreover, USA had Monopoly over semiconductor technology and hence USA companies were having the lead automatically. So, there is no risk of failure at all. Only thing to look was who was the better manager - Google founders, Yahoo founders, AOL founders etc. But at the end of the day, all of them were funded by same capitalist groups and hence they had guaranteed success in at least one of them and the failures could simply be absorbed by merger.

The companies were not founded due to charismatic founders but simply a face was brought who was interested. Nevertheless, the real reason for success of most of the big companies is heavy funding and government support in suppressing foreign competition by sanction and technology restrictions. The founders had very little role in success.
The people with the money could be individual millionaires or companies like Venture capital firms which pool money from thousands of investors into high risk deals with potential high risk returns.
These are the dynasty people. Money is not generated just like that. Secondly, there is also power politics involved. So, one wouldn't allow someone else like a stockbroker who became a millionaire to invest in strategic industry like intel or Boeing and gain major share. These are also political and restricted by deep connection with legislators.

Gates currently owns about 5% of Microsoft. I believe at one point he had close to 50%. If he wasn’t the founder the chances of him owning close to 50% would probably be pretty slim.
Gates never ad 50% of the ownership. Zuckerberg never had 50% ownership. These people are just loyal faces, not the real owners. Since the real capitalist bosses are hidden, they keep some faces like Gates or Zuckerberg to appear in public.

Even the CEO of Disney doesn’t have anywhere close to 50% of the company. The Disney family hasn’t run the company since 1971 but still owns about 5%. That is far more than the current CEO owns (like 1M out of 1.5B shares).
The disney family owns majority of Disney. It is owned by means like trusts, holding companies, hedge funds etc. USA laws are also biased towards capitalists and the trusts and other entities don't even need to disclose their real owners to public. Moreover, there are hundreds of holding companies, each owning some share of the main company and even each other to hide the real shareholders. That is why owners of companies like Google, Boeing, Intel, Facebook, ExxonMobil etc are hidden from scrutiny. We don't see these major capitalists in the world billionaire lists either as they keep their wealth highly secretive.
 
People are tired of war.

But if the war and conflicts suddenly stop...

It's a sign of the start of Armageddon.

It's a hard choice.
 

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