America First? USA spends $60 billion to counter China's Belt & Road

[Offshore]

Well you are free to check out HDI and Social Indicators for Both Malaysia and China but you guys are used to Government propaganda like North Korea so talking to you guys is like teaching physics to cows.



Majority of The Visa's in US are taken up by rich Chinese.

you???? this is coming from pakistani????????? dafuq!!!!
lol
you wanna talked about physics????????? with Chinese??????
for a country who can even build basic infrastructure.. that's fu cking rich

 

[Khan_21]

me? why would i go to US?
the best for me is where i can make the most money

What is the Minimum wage for Chinese worker vs US worker Again? What is the average annual income for both Countries? Or the Median Income?

you???? this is coming from pakistani????????? dafuq!!!!
lol
you wanna talked about physics????????? with Chinese??????
for a country who can even build basic infrastructure.. that's fu cking rich

Well I ain't misrepresenting my country and trying to compare it to UK or France. You have a per capita of $8000 and trying to compare yourself to a country with $60000.

you???? this is coming from pakistani????????? dafuq!!!!
lol
you wanna talked about physics????????? with Chinese??????
for a country who can even build basic infrastructure.. that's fu cking rich

And yet here you are on A Pakistani forum . Don't you have a Chinese forum? or like everything is that too censored by the government

 

[Offshore]

What is the Minimum wage for Chinese worker vs US worker Again? What is the average annual income for both Countries? Or the Median Income?

what's the saving rate between Chinese and US? what's cost living between two country?

What is the Minimum wage for Chinese worker vs US worker Again? What is the average annual income for both Countries? Or the Median Income?



Well I ain't misrepresenting my country and trying to compare it to UK or France. You have a per capita of $8000 and trying to compare yourself to a country with $60000.



And yet here you are on A Pakistani forum . Don't you have a Chinese forum? or like everything is that too censored by the government

i don't care whether this is pakistani forum, taliban forum or isis forum, i'm here for fun

 

[Khan_21]

i don't care whether this is pakistani forum, taliban forum or isis forum, i'm for fun

You are here because you can't post your thoughts on a Chinese forum. . Like everything what you post will be seen and controlled by your government.

 

[SorryNotSorry]

what's the saving rate between Chinese and US? what's cost living between two country?



i don't care whether this is pakistani forum, taliban forum or isis forum, i'm here for fun

Take a hike dude. Enough trolling for today.

 

[moweike]

What is the Minimum wage for Chinese worker vs US worker Again? What is the average annual income for both Countries? Or the Median Income?



Well I ain't misrepresenting my country and trying to compare it to UK or France. You have a per capita of $8000 and trying to compare yourself to a country with $60000.



And yet here you are on A Pakistani forum . Don't you have a Chinese forum? or like everything is that too censored by the government

Are you just shifting focus? Why don't you criticize the Chinese for eating dogs?

 

[Nilgiri]

Dollar based GDP only inflates US economy, US now only consumes and doesn't make much besides printing US dollars.

The very fact that US can do that (print money that you are then forced to use as the reference, going so far as to peg CNY to it) shows exactly the level of inherent seignioriage inside the USD that China can only dream of.

US total wealth is around 100 - 120 trillion USD. Tell me what is China's? Once you answer that, anyone can see exactly why China's GDP figures enjoy a pretty large inflated effect....given its export based and thus export sensitive (and not really all that correlated to its internal consumption patterns).

@LeGenD @Desert Fox @Psychic @Vergennes @AUSTERLITZ

 

[moweike]

The very fact that US can do that (print money that you are then forced to use as the reference, going so far as to peg CNY to it) shows exactly the level of inherent seignioriage inside the USD that China can only dream of.

US total wealth is around 100 - 120 trillion USD. Tell me what is China's? Once you answer that, anyone can see exactly why China's GDP figures enjoy a pretty large inflated effect....given its export based and thus export sensitive (and not really all that correlated to its internal consumption patterns).

@LeGenD @Desert Fox @Psychic @Vergennes @AUSTERLITZ

China's real economy is larger than the US,The US is financially stronger

 

[Nilgiri]

China's real economy is larger than the US,The US is financially stronger

Real economy (GDP wise, PPP is one measure of this) of China is larger yup, but still long way to go per capita (both real production wise and wealth wise). This is very intrinsically linked to total energy consumption per capita.

 

[MastanKhan]

Refuting that China was like US in the 50's is not nitpicking.

Obviously you are---

 

[haidian]

Obviously you are---

OK, then China is like US in the 50's , now everyone is happy. lol

 

[moweike]

OK, then China is like US in the 50's , now everyone is happy. lol

No, I have opinions, China is like US in the 20's

 

[Nilgiri]

No, I have opinions, China is like US in the 20's

It sort of is, the early 20th century in broad terms is when US was going through its major physical economic expansion (based on good old school equity accumulation + expansion) much like China is going through now.

I don't think Chinese should take comments of (China is like US in 50s, 20's etc) too negatively. To me its quite a compliment if you know what was happening in US (and the west more generally) at these time periods....and where China is coming from and where its heading to overall....you should not lose perspective of the vast size and bulk of China....there is much that has been done, but much remains to be done....especially if you look at not too long ago where China is coming from (state of China's economy before the Deng reforms and policies).

@Chinese-Dragon @rott @Cybernetics @Two @TaiShang

 

[Offshore]

It sort of is, the early 20th century in broad terms is when US was going through its major physical economic expansion (based on good old school equity accumulation + expansion) much like China is going through now.

I don't think Chinese should take comments of (China is like US in 50s, 20's etc) too negatively. To me its quite a compliment if you know what was happening in US (and the west more generally) at these time periods....and where China is coming from and where its heading to overall....you should not lose perspective of the vast size and bulk of China....there is much that has been done, but much remains to be done....especially if you look at not too long ago where China is coming from (state of China's economy before the Deng reforms and policies).

@Chinese-Dragon @rott @Cybernetics @Two @TaiShang

indeed, China is like america in the 50's.. it's good thing, america during their prime!
and we will learn from america mistake.
however some indian refuse to believe america infra is third world, like it or not it's a facts!
america has stop building infras, they shift their capability to build war machine and industrial complex.
they have different concept of infrastructure.
for China, infrastructure can reshape country became more competitive, efficient and greater mobility. that's why China have tier system

 

[Nilgiri]

however some indian refuse to believe america infra is third world, like it or not it's a facts!

Yes a lot of it is...because of extent of it (when it was put in time wise ans scale of it too), bad govt handling on fiscal terms (esp since massive welfare state policy increase by LBJ).

I myself have seen some of the worst examples, even back in the 90s when I first saw parts of US firsthand (and that was supposed to be US after cold war victory etc...but places like San Francisco public transport facilities was just yucky atrocious...given I was used to Hong Kong where I lived then)

But there is also lot of good/reasonable infra too in US....it just depends a lot what it is, where it is, and the specific history of the federal and local govt + business imprint there.

China can definitely like you say learn from what went good and what went bad in the US both in the prime periods and the post-prime periods.....infrastructure these days (per input cost/efficiency) is also lot better overall than before given how much more time/Rnd has elapsed now....so developing countries definitely can benefit much more readily from these newer realised economies of scale in a more globalised supply chain too.