All that what is happening in Europe

[CatSultan]

I disagree brother.

What are the sources to justify your analysis?

I also believe Biden will win today,

If Biden wins their will be many riots. If Trump wins their will also be riots but I don't think it will be that bad since Biden supporters don't have guns. Whoever wins, Americans will lose.

 

[313ghazi]

These things are often orchestrated to suit the needs of Western nations. Thier intelligence services use these extremist idiots as puppets. There is a long history of western intelligence acting as extremists to bait these people into training, equipping and ultimately doing what they could only dream of.

It is a matter of public record that they sell them arms and then arrest them for buying them. They will have agents acting as recruiters and groom extremists, until they're ready to do something - then they'll arrest them for plotting.

Take this Austrian. He tried to join ISIS less than a year ago. They caught him and then released him from prison stating he's not a threat. Within a year he's doing a lone wolf attack. Surprised? Not really.

I know a guy who tried to join ISIS. He tried to train at my barber for a while. Thick as sh1t, only ever talked about football, weed smoking, gold chain wearing sort. Scrawny build, guys taking the mick out of him in the barbers shop.

Suddenly out of nowhere he's maxed out some credit cards and is trying to go to Syria. Got caught because he rang his family to say goodbye and they alerted the police.

He did 2 years I think, back out now. There is no way that idea came to him. He was definitely groomed. He's a special needs donkey (points to whoever got the reference).

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

of course not.

I also am praying for Biden.

Pray to Allah swt for what is best. He alone can save our predicament.

Don't have faith in any of these politicians. They will stab you in the back in a second.

These things are often orchestrated to suit the needs of Western nations. Thier intelligence services use these extremist idiots as puppets. There is a long history of western intelligence acting as extremists to bait these people into training, equipping and ultimately doing what they could only dream of.

It is a matter of public record that they sell them arms and then arrest them for buying them. They will have agents acting as recruiters and groom extremists, until they're ready to do something - then they'll arrest them for plotting.

Take this Austrian. He tried to join ISIS less than a year ago. They caught him and then released him from prison stating he's not a threat. Within a year he's doing a lone wolf attack. Surprised? Not really.

I know a guy who tried to join ISIS. He tried to train at my barber for a while. Thick as sh1t, only ever talked about football, weed smoking, gold chain wearing sort. Scrawny build, guys taking the mick out of him in the barbers shop.

Suddenly out of nowhere he's maxed out some credit cards and is trying to go to Syria. Got caught because he rang his family to say goodbye and they alerted the police.

He did 2 years I think, back out now. There is no way that idea came to him. He was definitely groomed. He's a special needs donkey (points to whoever got the reference).

Jazak Allahu khair for your post. I wish we can talk about these things in further detail soon brother.

I am not on top of the news as much as I would like.

If Biden wins their will be many riots. If Trump wins their will also be riots but I don't think it will be that bad since Biden supporters don't have guns. Whoever wins, Americans will lose.

Yes brother, exactly my feeling.

That is the unfortunate result for us, we lose either way.

Allah swt promises to make a way out for believers from every difficulty in the Quran, that is what gives me solace.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

These things are often orchestrated to suit the needs of Western nations. Thier intelligence services use these extremist idiots as puppets. There is a long history of western intelligence acting as extremists to bait these people into training, equipping and ultimately doing what they could only dream of.

It is a matter of public record that they sell them arms and then arrest them for buying them. They will have agents acting as recruiters and groom extremists, until they're ready to do something - then they'll arrest them for plotting.

Take this Austrian. He tried to join ISIS less than a year ago. They caught him and then released him from prison stating he's not a threat. Within a year he's doing a lone wolf attack. Surprised? Not really.

I know a guy who tried to join ISIS. He tried to train at my barber for a while. Thick as sh1t, only ever talked about football, weed smoking, gold chain wearing sort. Scrawny build, guys taking the mick out of him in the barbers shop.

Suddenly out of nowhere he's maxed out some credit cards and is trying to go to Syria. Got caught because he rang his family to say goodbye and they alerted the police.

He did 2 years I think, back out now. There is no way that idea came to him. He was definitely groomed. He's a special needs donkey (points to whoever got the reference).

Exactly this.

There is always a "right time", a "right place" and a "right outcome" for these attacks. Someone's agenda is being served up on a plate.

I don't think the agenda is anything to do with Russia in this case. It's a simple slow squeeze on Muslims in Europe, intent on "reforming Islam". Macron's initial slip of the tongue "Islam is in crisis" comment revealed this quite plainly. The appropriate response from European muslims should simply be that of dissociation from whatever circus performance is currently underway. We should wash our hands of this completely.

Austria, France, some nutcases with knives and guns....nothing to do with me or my religion whatsoever. Not my problem in the slightest other than my own safety may be at risk, and I fully expect security agencies to deal directly with any threats to my security. There is no wider war between Islam and Europe. Indeed, Muslim Europeans are as much at risk as non-Muslim Europeans from terrorism like this. Hope Mr Macron is reading.

 

[jamahir]

Why are Indian Muslims attacking Kashmiris?

What did Kashmiris do to them?

What gives you the idea that I ( or other Indian Muslims ) was attacking Kashmiris ? I was just putting out a technical fact about suicide bombing here.

Some years ago I had an acquaintance who was part-Kashmiri ( father ) and part-Filipino. We lost touch.

I desire peace for Kashmir. You may know this thread of mine about that topic.

 

[313ghazi]

Pray to Allah swt for what is best. He alone can save our predicament.

Don't have faith in any of these politicians. They will stab you in the back in a second.



Jazak Allahu khair for your post. I wish we can talk about these things in further detail soon brother.

I am not on top of the news as much as I would like.


Yes brother, exactly my feeling.

That is the unfortunate result for us, we lose either way.

Allah swt promises to make a way out for believers from every difficulty in the Quran, that is what gives me solace.

Post 911 there were several sting operations including on US territory where intelligence services pretended to be arms dealers, or jihadist recruiters and caught people. There was some controversy around if they coerced people into it. One can have hateful dangerous thoughts and not act upon them, but give a sudden opportunity and maybe encouragement - that same person could be a terrorist.

I remember back in the old PDF days hearing a story from another UK based brother who said he knew of drug addicts who had been groomed online into wannabe jihadists. Question is who groomed them? There is no doubt that extremists operate these networks, but they've also been infiltrated by intelligence agencies who are using the same tactics to catch idiots.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

What gives you the idea that I ( or other Indian Muslims ) was attacking Kashmiris ? I was just putting out a technical fact about suicide bombing here.

Some years ago I had an acquaintance who was part-Kashmiri ( father ) and part-Filipino. We lost touch.

I desire peace for Kashmir. You may know this thread of mine about that topic.

You said Indian Muslims are being recruited for terrorism in Kashmir. What are they doing in Kashmir?

Post 911 there were several sting operations including on US territory where intelligence services pretended to be arms dealers, or jihadist recruiters and caught people. There was some controversy around if they coerced people into it. One can have hateful dangerous thoughts and not act upon them, but give a sudden opportunity and maybe encouragement - that same person could be a terrorist.

I remember back in the old PDF days hearing a story from another UK based brother who said he knew of drug addicts who had been groomed online into wannabe jihadists. Question is who groomed them? There is no doubt that extremists operate these networks, but they've also been infiltrated by intelligence agencies who are using the same tactics to catch idiots.

Yes, we have many cases of entrapment here in the US too. They tend to target our mosques, and usually the masjid committees find them, but not always.

 

[jamahir]

You said Indian Muslims are being recruited for terrorism in Kashmir. What are they doing in Kashmir?

You misunderstood. I meant that some native Kashmiris have, in at least two cases, taken to suicide bombing within Kashmir. One was Pulwama in 2019 and in the other the bomber car, again in the Pulwama area, was stopped and destroyed by the military before it could target whatever the target was.

I did not at all mean that Indian Muslims from outside Kashmir were doing militant activity in Kashmir. I have never heard of even one case.

 

[achhu]

These attackers are Muslims, yes no doubt, but who are the motivators, we don't know, no one knows.
I can hire a suicide attacker in Pakistan, Afghanistan and India. I need to pay 200000 pkr, and tell the target and time. Soon a boy, around 14 to 19 years old will reach the target and blow himself.
The thing is, this terror attack thing is a business, a well organized one. It includes, trainers, customers, facilitators and vendors.

So yes, attackers might be Muslims, but not so Muslims. So again, France will achieve it, whether Europe likes it, or not.

Mousad is not involved in it.

for terrorists operating in Europe ,
motivation is the education he gets from his family ,mulla , and his society.

You misunderstood. I meant that some native Kashmiris have, in at least two cases, taken to suicide bombing within Kashmir. One was Pulwama in 2019 and in the other the bomber car, again in the Pulwama area, was stopped and destroyed by the military before it could target whatever the target was.

I did not at all mean that Indian Muslims from outside Kashmir were doing militant activity in Kashmir. I have never heard of even one case.

indian muslims don't follow terrorists cult .