All that remains for Pakistan now is to hope Gen. Bajwa doesn’t turn out to be Gen. Ayub Khan

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Like you said, India will likely not face China like that, but it can.

It can’t, it simply can’t. India simply does not have the numbers in terms of equipment to throw at China, even if it has the boots on the ground, and it’s not likely to for at least several more decades given the current Chinese vs Indian military status and Chinese vs Indian military acquisitions pace. Add in the Pakistan variable on the Western front and it’ll be a blood bath for India.

India, at the moment, can barely squeeze out a win in a limited conflict with Pakistan, there would be no contest with China in a full fledged conflict.

You’re mistaking China’s desire to avoid a needless escalation of a standoff into a conflict (that would damage its development plans) with a lack of capability to crush India in a military conflict.

 

[Minho]

It can’t, it simply can’t. India simply does not have the numbers in terms of equipment to throw at China, even if it has the boots on the ground, and it’s not likely to for at least several more decades given the current Chinese vs Indian military status and Chinese vs Indian military acquisitions pace. Add in the Pakistan variable on the Western front and it’ll be a blood bath for India.

India, at the moment, can barely squeeze out a win in a limited conflict with Pakistan, there would be no contest with China in a full fledged conflict.

You’re mistaking China’s desire to avoid a needless escalation of a standoff into a conflict (that would damage its development plans) with a lack of capability to crush India in a military conflict.

i was talking about a limited border skirmish like Doklam. Obviously a bigger millitary conflict would be very different. But the fact is, although India will likely suffer a major defeat in a millitary engagement, India still has the capability to hurt China, both millitaily and economically. The reality is, China simply does not see its issues with India as worthy of starting a war, so the worst that could happen are incidents like Doklam. And that is all part of the calculus.

I actually agree with most of what you said. My point is that recent events have shown that in the region, India is the only country that can even come close to facing off against China. Which is why India is still a major part of the US's Indo-Pacific strategy, despite the fact that there are very noticeable issues between the US and India on trade, and that India has conveyed to the US that it does have some different goals than the US's, even though it for the most part has common ground with the US on the Indo-Pacific.

That is why in the grand scheme of things, the US has mostly been supportive on things India cares about(Chabahar, Kashmir, etc.) even though it has its own goals.

 

[420canada]

Pakistani politics are just a joke. The Pakistani military is just trying to put in check state actors who are funded by foreign elements with a policy to destabilize the country. Bajwa to me looks like want more time because of current key back door dealings and policy and understanding with intelligence and governance from multiple countries and agencies. That how the cookie crumbles to me

 

[Krptonite]

It can’t, it simply can’t. India simply does not have the numbers in terms of equipment to throw at China, even if it has the boots on the ground, and it’s not likely to for at least several more decades given the current Chinese vs Indian military status and Chinese vs Indian military acquisitions pace. Add in the Pakistan variable on the Western front and it’ll be a blood bath for India.

India, at the moment, can barely squeeze out a win in a limited conflict with Pakistan, there would be no contest with China in a full fledged conflict.

You’re mistaking China’s desire to avoid a needless escalation of a standoff into a conflict (that would damage its development plans) with a lack of capability to crush India in a military conflict.

I agree with many of points you've put forth, currently in a direct, all out scenario, India is more favourable to defend it's borders than undertake offensive operations. As you've rightly pointed out, if you add PA as a variable, the odds worsen for IA.

If you look at it from GoC's perspective, the issues it has with India do not justify allocating immense resources towards fighting us. We might not be able to outright win, but a protracted slog fest aimed at attrition is well within our means.

A much better strategy would be to help Pakistan prop up against India in the same vein as the US is trying to do against China. The PA enjoys inherent advantages in defense, the same as anyone defending their own territory.

For India it means trying to make best of a situation between two polarizing attractive camps, something that we have experience dealing in.

Work together where interests converge without antagonizing any party. Whether it turns out to be beneficial for us, remains to be seen.

 

[Minho]

I agree with many of points you've put forth, currently in a direct, all out scenario, India is more favourable to defend it's borders than undertake offensive operations. As you've rightly pointed out, if you add PA as a variable, the odds worsen for IA.

If you look at it from GoC's perspective, the issues it has with India do not justify allocating immense resources towards fighting us. We might not be able to outright win, but a protracted slog fest aimed at attrition is well within our means.

A much better strategy would be to help Pakistan prop up against India in the same vein as the US is trying to do against China. The PA enjoys inherent advantages in defense, the same as anyone defending their own territory.

For India it means trying to make best of a situation between two polarizing attractive camps, something that we have experience dealing in.

Work together where interests converge without antagonizing any party. Whether it turns out to be beneficial for us, remains to be seen.

Also important to consider that Indo-sino border disputes are just over land. Whereas there is an idealogical aspect to Indo-Pak border disputes. Pakistanis aren't exaggerating when they say Kashmir is their juggular vain. There is a reason why most nuclear conflict scholars and the US gov. itself has determined there is no chance of a large-scale conflict between India and China, whereas there is a tiny chance of Kashmir causing a nuclear conflict.

 

[newb3e]

Pakistani politics are just a joke. The Pakistani military is just trying to put in check state actors who are funded by foreign elements with a policy to destabilize the country. Bajwa to me looks like want more time because of current key back door dealings and policy and understanding with intelligence and governance from multiple countries and agencies. That how the cookie crumbles to me

name one politician or political leader who came tobpower without ghqs blessing?

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

So PM Imran Khan / Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has finally fulfilled their part of the deal with the "Umpire".

No one likes PM Khan and his incompetent political party. This is the only way Imran Khan could ever become the Prime Minister of Pakistan. Pathetic.

Sad. Shame.