All Pakistani F-16s are accounted for: US Govt buries Indian propaganda.

[Oruc]

Am I the only one here noticing that its been 5 Pages and there hasn't been any Indian Poster Posted some BS here ? Where are all the Indians ? cooking up some story ?

Indians have gone fifth generation stealth mode.

 

[Mutakalim]

It's a conspiracy against Maha supa pawa Bharat.

 

[ziaulislam]

to summarize
1. india stroke 50km inside Pakistan via israeil based spike guided SOW with range of 100 km
2. india missed (proven via satellite imaging)either willingly or through miscalculation, seeing it was systematic error it looks it was a mistake
3. one mi17 was shot down likley by IAF itself
4. one mig 21 shot down by pakistan with captured pilot paraded infront of the world and than released for deescalation
5. pakistan achieved it deescalation and deterrence objective by replying to a strike
6. IAF was unable to punish Pakistan aggression
7. only PAF loss the f16 was proven to be false, IAF thus lied on two occations, serious creating doubts on india denial whther indeed a second plan was shot down by pakistan or was it just 1

 

[valkyr_96]

Strawman argument, the crux of the issue here is that both pakistan & US authorities were covering something up and the former changed statements multiple times just like now.

Also, the wreckage was found in Afghanistan as well, making it nigh impossible for pakistan to deny the downing of the F-16, in this case however the entirety of the F-16 was shot down in pakistani side.

Either way, we are still engulfed in the fog of war & the events won't be clear until after a few months or even years.

There was no cover up the pilot's son is on this very forum and has posted about this.

 

[Shane]

but but but but indian MiG 21 shot down F16 but we don't evidence but but but but but butt butt butt

And now many Indians are asking questions

https://twitter.com/x/status/1113983260282040321

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So the nose stands not just bloodied but is proven to have been altogether obliterated by PAF.

 

[war&peace]

I Wonder What Endians Have To Say Now????

They will try to divert the discussion to economy, FATF or ASAT test

 

[crankthatskunk]

The Indian's reputation is in tatters, the reputed Foreign Policy magazine has reported that all Pakistan's F16 are counted for. PAF presented the entire stock of its F16 to the Americans and all of them are in fine conditions.

New Delhi and Islamabad had conflicting accounts of a February dogfight.
BY LARA SELIGMAN | APRIL 4, 2019, 7:50 PM

India’s claim that one of its fighter pilots shot down a Pakistani F-16 fighter jet in an aerial battle between the two nuclear powers in February appears to be wrong. Two senior U.S. defense officials with direct knowledge of the situation told Foreign Policy that U.S. personnel recently counted Islamabad’s F-16s and found none missing.

The findings directly contradict the account of Indian Air Force officials, who said that Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman managed to shoot down a Pakistani F-16 before his own plane was downed by a Pakistani missile.

It is possible that in the heat of combat, Varthaman, flying a vintage MiG-21 Bison, got a lock on the Pakistani F-16, fired, and genuinely believed he scored a hit. But the count, conducted by U.S. authorities on the ground in Pakistan, sheds doubt on New Delhi’s version of events, suggesting that Indian authorities may have misled the international community about what happened that day.

The news comes just days before the start of India’s general elections, in which Prime Minister Narendra Modi is seeking another term in office. In the weeks leading up to the election, tensions between India and Pakistan escalated to levels not seen in decades after a Pakistan-based militant group killed more than 40 Indian security officers in a Feb. 14 suicide bombing in India-controlled Kashmir. Both sides have been accused of spreading disinformation and fanning nationalistic flames.

Although the news likely won’t sway Indian voters, Vipin Narang, an associate professor of political science at MIT, said the way the events have unfolded may affect India’s efforts to deter Pakistan in the future.

“As details come out, it looks worse and worse for the Indians,” Narang said. “It looks increasingly like India failed to impose significant costs on Pakistan, but lost a plane and a helicopter of its own in the process.”

The dogfight between the two nations occurred on Feb. 27, when India says a group of Pakistani jets entered its airspace in response to the first Indian air raid on Pakistani territory since a 1971 war. India scrambled its own jets and gave chase. During the aerial battle that ensued, Varthaman took a missile hit and ejected safely into Pakistani territory.

He was captured by the Pakistani army and released days later in an effort to de-escalate the crisis.

One of the senior U.S. defense officials with direct knowledge of the count said that Pakistan invited the United States to physically count its F-16 planes after the incident as part of an end-user agreement signed when the foreign military sale was finalized. Generally in such agreements, the United States requires the receiving country to allow U.S. officials to inspect the equipment regularly to ensure it is accounted for and protected.

Some of the aircraft were not immediately available for inspection due to the conflict, so it took U.S. personnel several weeks to account for all of the jets, the official said.

But now the count has been completed, and “all aircraft were present and accounted for,” the official said.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/04/did-india-shoot-down-a-pakistani-jet-u-s-count-says-no/

 

[Ultima Thule]

I am running short of time ,can some one tell the name of the source or the name of the official .

get some shame and stop lie @Rollno21

 

[crankthatskunk]

It is utter shame for the Indian media, all its politicians and the Indian idiots who were asking the proofs of F16 shooting down by IAF on this forum.

How can we forget day long transmissions of Indian TV Channels that how great a hero AbhiNonedone is that he shot down a F 16 with a Mig 21.

#FakeIndia

 

[Areesh]

Strawman argument, the crux of the issue here is that both pakistan & US authorities were covering something up and the former changed statements multiple times just like now.

Also, the wreckage was found in Afghanistan as well, making it nigh impossible for pakistan to deny the downing of the F-16, in this case however the entirety of the F-16 was shot down in pakistani side.

Either way, we are still engulfed in the fog of war & the events won't be clear until after a few months or even years.

The crux of the matter is you have ZERO proof of your claim

Suck it or show the proof

 

[Smarana Mitra]

There were already images of F16 given. The F16 is from Jordan 2nd hand. All USA supplied F16 are intact

 

[ziaulislam]

seems india media is accepting what daddy is saying
https://www.thequint.com/news/india/india-might-not-have-shot-paks-f-16-us-after-counting-pak-jets

 

[Amaa'n]

Lets ask IAF, where is the Warhead , unlike in our case R73 archer motor control was still attached to the Pylon of Mig21....whats for IAF to show?

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

Lets ask IAF, where is the Warhead , unlike in our case R73 archer motor control was still attached to the Pylon of Mig21....whats for IAF to show?
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Warhead exploded after hitting chaff

 

[war&peace]

Wonder how the BJP will spin this story now. I am sure they will find a way of making the BJP Bakhts happy. If logic fails they usually resort to vedic science!

Let's see how much mileage they can get out of ASAT ... or try some escalation again with Pakistan because Bhangis are already at the lowest of happiness index of 140 (prev. year 134)