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I believe that local person had told me that it was River Ravi(as I said I don't remember exact words). Besides there is no Ganga river in Pathankot or Kangda If I am correct. Your other details are correct though.

That river is visible from the Temple as it is very close.

I'm not talking about River Beas my friend..Alexander could easily cross that..but either he had to mount an Amphibious Assault or had to cross Thar Desert and had to fought in plains..now,in plains,Alexander was in disadvantage in front of such a massive force..and in Amphibious assault,it'd be suicidal..also,he didn't had any means to cross multiple rivers with such a huge force..
 
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Alexander lost to Porus and the analysis point to that fact.

Alexander was injured in Multan present day Pakistan and was hit by an arrow, this is mentioned in the history told by Greeks. This is the main reason for the death of Alexander.

I doubt he lost. The Greeks continued to subjugate that area until Chandragupta Maurya took over those puppets.

What is for sure is the battle blunted their idea of an continued Indian conquest.

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The Greeks heard of the massive army of Nandas and their allies. They(soldiers) pressured Alexander to leave, because the force they came to India with wouldn't be enough for a full on campaign against the Nandas.
 
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Most interesting is

They also had hordes of Tibetan Mastiff dogs who could kill leopards and whip up a booming barking frenzy which terrified men and horses.

where I can get this dog today ? :cheesy:
means 2 of them can easily kill a lion :omghaha:

Tibetan Mastiff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ask your chinese friends..they displayed this dog as Lion in Zoo and landed in trouble..New Height of Chinese Fake.. :omghaha: :rofl:
 
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I doubt he lost. The Greeks continued to subjugate that area until Chandragupta Maurya took over those puppets.

What is for sure is the battle blunted their idea of an continued Indian conquest.

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The Greeks heard of the massive army of Nandas and their allies. They(soldiers) pressured Alexander to leave, because the force they came to India with wouldn't be enough for a full on campaign against the Nandas.
There are articles and analysis which suggest that Alexander actually lost the war and returned.

Alexander vs Porus: Beyond the fog of war | Russia & India Report

Alexander vs Porus: Beyond the fog of war

Marshal Gregory Zhukov, the legendary Russian commander, said the Macedonians had suffered a catastrophic defeat in India. In the final part of this analysis, fact and fiction are separated.

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After defeating Persia in the year 334 BCE, Alexander of Macedon was irresistibly drawn towards the great Indian landmass. However, the Persians warned him the country was no easy target; that several famous conquerors had fallen at the gates of India.
The Persians told him how their greatest king, Cyrus, who had conquered much of the civilised world, had been killed in a battle with Indian soldiers exactly two centuries before Alexander.
And in an earlier antiquity, the Assyrian queen Semiramis, who had crossed the Indus with 400,000 highly trained troops, escaped with just 20 troops, the rest being slaughtered by the Indians.
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Marshal Zhukov on Alexander’s failed India invasion
In his book, Foreign Influence on Ancient India, Krishna Chandra Sagar says 150 years before Alexander, Indian archers and cavalry formed a significant component of the Persian army and played a key role in subduing Thebes in central Greece.
Alexander, however, knew no fear. More than anything else, he wanted to invade India. It would prove to be a strategic blunder.
Zhukov’s take
“Following Alexander’s failure to gain a position in India and the defeat of his successor Seleucus Nikator, relationships between the Indians and the Greeks and the Romans later, was mainly through trade and diplomacy. Also the Greeks and other ancient peoples did not see themselves as in any way superior, only different.”
This statement by Russia’s Marshal Gregory Zhukov on the Macedonian invasion of India in 326 BCE is significant because unlike the prejudiced colonial and Western historians, the Greeks and later Romans viewed Indians differently. For instance, Arrian writes in Alexander Anabasis that the Indians were the noblest among all Asians.
In fact, Arrian and other Greeks say the Indians were relentless in their attacks on the invaders. They say if the people of Punjab and Sindh were fierce, then in the eastern part of India “the men were superior in stature and courage”.
All this is glossed over by Western historians, in whose view the one victory over king Porus amounted to the “conquest of India”. But the Greeks made no such claim.
Battle of Hydaspes – Hardest ever
Greek contemporary writers describe the Battle of Hydaspes (Jhelum) as the hardest fought of all Alexander’s battles. Frank Lee Holt, a professor of ancient history at the University of Houston, writes in his book, Alexander the Great and the Mystery of the Elephant Medallions: “The only reference in Arrian's history to a victory celebration by Alexander's army was after the battle with Porus.”
Alexander’s army did not indulge in celebrations after the Battle of Gaugamela where they defeated 200,000 Persians. No wild festivities were announced after the Battle of Issus where they defeated a mixed force of Persian cavalry and Greek mercenaries.
The fact they celebrated after the Battle of Hydaspes suggests they considered themselves extremely lucky to survive after the clash with the Hindu army, with its elephant corps.
If Porus lost, why reward him?
According to the Greeks, Alexander was apparently so impressed by Porus he gave back his kingdom plus the territories of king Ambhi of Taxila who had fought alongside the Macedonians.
This is counterintuitive. Ambhi had become Alexander’s ally on the condition he would be given Porus’ kingdom. So why reward the enemy, whose army had just mauled the Macedonians?

Charles Le Brun Alexander and Porus (1673). Source: wikipedia.org
The only possible answer is at the Battle of Hydaspes, the Macedonians realised they were dealing with an enemy of uncommon valour. Sensing defeat they called for a truce, which Porus accepted. The Indian king struck a bargain – in return for Ambhi’s territories, which would secure his frontiers, Porus would assist the Macedonians in leaving India safely.
Alexander’s post-Hydaspes charitable behaviour, as per Greek accounts, is uncharacteristic and unlikely. For, in battles before and after, he massacred everyone in the cities he subdued.
Why pay off a vassal?
Before the battle, Alexander gave king Ambhi 1000 talents (25,000 kilos) of gold for fighting alongside the Macedonians. The only explanation is Ambhi was driving a hard bargain. He knew the rattled Macedonian army was seeking to quickly exit India. He thought he could use the Macedonians to remove his rival Porus. However, Porus’ decision to offer Alexander combat checkmated those plans.
Tired of fighting: Lame excuse
Greek sources say Alexander retreated from India because his soldiers were weary, homesick and close to mutiny. Imagine if German soldiers had told Hitler they were tired of fighting? They would have been summarily shot. In Alexander’s time, the punishment was crucifixion.
The Macedonian army had a system of rotation where large batches of veteran soldiers were released to return home (with sufficient gold and slaves). In their place, fresh troops eager poured in from Europe.
If they were weary of constant warring, it is inexplicable why these soldiers chose to fight their way through obstinately hostile Indian territories. The homesick soldiers would have preferred the garrisoned northwestern route they took while coming in. Why would a brilliant commander subject himself and his troops to further violence when all they wanted was a peaceful passage home?
Clearly, the Macedonians were in a mess and not thinking straight. Not the sign of a victorious army.
Need for glory
David J. Lonsdale, a lecturer in Strategic Studies at the University of Hull, writes: “Alexander’s invasion of India and Napoleon’s invasion of Russia in 1812 both appear reckless and unnecessary from a strategic perspective. Therefore, perhaps they can both be explained by the sheer naked ambition of the two commanders.”
Alexander’s tragedy was he was in a Catch-22 situation. The Macedonians and Greeks welcomed the wealth from the conquered lands, but the man who ensured this flow was persona non grata.
In Greek eyes a Macedonian was hardly an equal. The Greeks hated Alexander for sacking their cities and enslaving their people. In his own country, he was an outsider for being half-Albanian, from his mother’s side. The common people suspected him of murdering his father.
History
So in order to retain the loyalty of his troops, Alexander had to wage constant war while also taking great personal risks in battle. For, he could not be seen as weak, let alone beaten.
A few years before the Indian campaign, a large part of the Macedonian army was massacred by the Scythians (Hindu Shakas, the Buddha’s clansmen) at Polytimetus, present day Tajikistan. Alexander warned his surviving troops not to discuss the massacre with other soldiers.
Strabo, the Greek historian wrote: “Generally speaking, the men who have written on the affairs of India were a set of liars…Of this we became the more convinced whilst writing the history of Alexander.”
If you go through the history of alexander, the return journey is the most torturous for them local people attacked through out their journey, they choose the path of coastal way since they want it more easy for them, even though they have to travel through deserts of Balouchistan.

Multan people never accepted Alexander as a king and they attacked them through skirmishes, it is in one of those skirmishes Alexander got injured.
 
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What a piece of amazingly crap article :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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I never met a single Indian till today, who is ashamed of our past instead we are proud of our past. But I am not moron, blinded by nationalism or religious fundamentalism propagted by some thugs. Nationalism is good till it did not impaired your logical thinking ability. Now some bhagwa morons trying to distort, Indianized and rewrite the history on the similar lines of Arabized Pak history. You are making fool of yourself and other fellow countrymen. Pakistan is paying the price for their self distorted history today and we will pay tommorow if we did not learned from their mistakes. Which historical writings of Greek & Indian historian you are talking about?? Show us and the world original records of these historians.

What advance Indian science you are talking about?? Science which till today is unable give two times roti to 30% of our fellow countrymen or science which is unable to reduce the no. of 40% new born malnourshid Indian children. Till yesterday we were dying with curable diseases like malaria, plague etc. And where was Indian advance science then. With so called Indian advance science, we are nowhere near US, Russia, Europe, Japan and even China in defense and space technologies. This list is too Long.

We need reality check. Self confidence is a good thing but becoming delusional is foolishness. You are so called communist angle is just a deception to fool common Indian people. Does historians of Alex-Porus era were also communist?? Stop creating these top of moronic threads based on your cooked version of stories and constructed version of history. Purshotam!!! Have you gone nutts. I did not want to write strong words, buts its totally unacceptable that you make us a laughing stock of outsiders too. Most probably the force and brain behind this project of rewriting history is RSS and Janta Party leader 'Swamy' somthing. RSS is also trying since long to re-construct Indian freedom struggle around Jan Sangh.
 
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And then pigs started flying with the help of King Porus.:lol:

noman , u got it wronmg... they flew at the sight of Md. bin qasim.
get ur facts right mate.

Glad to hear Indians finally have some history to be proud of. Even if it happened 2000 years ago in modern-day Pakistan.
U know who pakistanis were at that time though right?
 
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that the the Nandas of the Magadha Kingdom had 6000 war elephants ( count by Plutarch ) and the Emperor Chandragupta Maurya of the Mauryan Empire had 9000 war elephants.
Really ??? :undecided:
And I though Chandragupta become the King of Magadh - the most powerful Janpad - after killing last Nang king - Dhananad :undecided:

And where was this Mauryan Empire located if not magadh itself.


My whole History education was a lie :rofl:
 
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Greeks were full of homosexuals in their ranks and were actively encouraged to practice it. Taking on captured slave girls/boys and trannies were all part and parcel, hence Alexander could have quite easily died from an S.T.D. Quite believable considering his nature and the age at which he died.

Regarding the giant war mastiffs, I've not seen any evidence of the indian kings having them in their ranks. The greeks had many. It's believed by many that the mighty bully ***** in pakistan today tracing it's lineage back to greek war dogs.
 
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How idiotic you are ! Stop ridiculing yourself comrade. Don't comment on something which you do not even understand.

That happened in age old India and there were no Muslims in those days !

Where did he mention islam or pakistan?:what:
 
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Where did he mention islam or pakistan?:what:

Refer his post #4 on this thread :devil:

Let me quote his comments from post #4

Glad to hear Indians finally have some history to be proud of. Even if it happened 2000 years ago in modern-day Pakistan.
 
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