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Alarming Evidence Suggests ISIS is Now a US-Israel Proxy Army
November 6, 2015 |by Associated News|
Eva_Bee_illustration_007.jpg


For the past year, US, British and other western forces have been back in Iraq, supposedly in the cause of destroying the hyper-sectarian terror group Islamic State (formerly known as al-Qaida in Iraq). This was after Isis overran huge chunks of Iraqi and Syrian territory and proclaimed a self-styled Islamic caliphate.

The campaign isn’t going well. Last month, Isis rolled into the Iraqi city of Ramadi, while on the other side of the now nonexistent border its forces conquered the Syrian town of Palmyra. Al-Qaida’s official franchise, the Nusra Front, has also been making gains in Syria.

Some Iraqis complain that the US sat on its hands while all this was going on. The Americans insist they are trying to avoid civilian casualties, and claim significant successes. Privately, officials say they don’t want to be seen hammering Sunni strongholds in a sectarian war and risk upsetting their Sunni allies in the Gulf.

A revealing light on how we got here has now been shone by a recently declassified secret US intelligence report, written in August 2012, which uncannily predicts – and effectively welcomes – the prospect of a “Salafist principality” in eastern Syria and an al-Qaida-controlled Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. In stark contrast to western claims at the time, the Defense Intelligence Agency document identifies al-Qaida in Iraq (which became Isis) and fellow Salafists as the “major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” – and states that “western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey” were supporting the opposition’s efforts to take control of eastern Syria.

Raising the “possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality”, the Pentagon report goes on, “this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)”.

pretty well exactly what happened two years later. The report isn’t a policy document. It’s heavily redacted and there are ambiguities in the language. But the implications are clear enough. A year into the Syrian rebellion, the US and its allies weren’t only supporting and arming an opposition they knew to be dominated by extreme sectarian groups; they were prepared to countenance the creation of some sort of “Islamic state” – despite the “grave danger” to Iraq’s unity – as a Sunni buffer to weaken Syria.

That doesn’t mean the US created Isis, of course, though some of its Gulf allies certainly played a role in it – as the US vice-president, Joe Biden, acknowledged last year. But there was no al-Qaida in Iraq until the US and Britain invaded. And the US has certainly exploited the existence of Isis against other forces in the region as part of a wider drive to maintain western control.

The calculus changed when Isis started beheading westerners and posting atrocities online, and the Gulf states are now backing other groups in the Syrian war, such as the Nusra Front. But this US and western habit of playing with jihadi groups, which then come back to bite them, goes back at least to the 1980s war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, which fostered the original al-Qaida under CIA tutelage.

It was recalibrated during the occupation of Iraq, when US forces led by General Petraeus sponsored an El Salvador-style dirty war of sectarian death squads to weaken the Iraqi resistance. And it was reprised in 2011 in the Nato-orchestrated war in Libya, where Isis last week took control of Gaddafi’s home town of Sirte.

In reality, US and western policy in the conflagration that is now the Middle East is in the classic mould of imperial divide-and-rule. American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria, and mount what are effectively joint military operations with Iran against Isis in Iraq while supporting Saudi Arabia’s military campaign against Iranian-backed Houthi forces in Yemen. However confused US policy may often be, a weak, partitioned Iraq and Syria fit such an approach perfectly.

What’s clear is that Isis and its monstrosities won’t be defeated by the same powers that brought it to Iraq and Syria in the first place, or whose open and covert war-making has fostered it in the years since. Endless western military interventions in the Middle East have brought only destruction and division. It’s the people of the region who can cure this disease – not those who incubated the virus.

So goes the famous line from George Orwell’s novel 1984. And so, too, can our forces today claim over a number of groups we find in the Middle East. In many ways, the enemy of my enemy is my friend when dealing with the Middle East, and in the battle between ancient tribal groups, when you lack an enemy, sometimes you need to make one.

In a new report from the UN, it is revealed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were maintaining regular contact with members of the so-called Islamic State since May of 2013. Initial reports from the IDF stated that this was only for medical care for civilians, but that story fell apart when the UN observers identified direct contact between IDF forces and ISIS soldiers, including giving medical care to ISIS fighters. Observations even included the transfer of two crates from the IDF to ISIS forces, the contents of which have not been confirmed at this time. Further the UN report identified what the Syrians label a crossing point of forces between Israel and ISIS, a point of concern brought before the UN Security Council. This report from the UN strengthens the claims by the Syrian regime that Israel is heavily involved in operations within the nation.

This is part of a continuing pattern of Israeli support for the Islamic State. It was only two months ago thatIsrael attacked Syrian forces in opposition to ISIS forces. Israeli attacks even killed an Iranian military adviser for the Syrian military just two weeks ago. The U.S.’s financing of ISIS, part of the effort against Syrian president Assad, is well documented, as well. That the efforts to undermine the Assad regime were in turn strengthening the same terrorist group which recently set a Jordanian pilot on fire to set an exampleis conveniently ignored by the higher up military command.

When the United States began operations against ISIS, Israeli high command seemed reluctant to give any support and called the move a mistake. The support of ISIS fits in with Israeli concerns in the region, namely that of Syria and Iran, and U.S. opposition to ISIS has put the United States in the awkward position of once again arming the enemies we will be fighting tomorrow.

Syria and Iran both pose a threat to Israel with their sizable conventional forces and political clout in the region, in much the same way Iraq was before the elimination of Saddam Hussein. With the toppling of Saddam, pieces of concern remain, and Israel appears to still maintain the old axiom that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Supporting ISIS for Israel enables them to eliminate two issues at once, only once Syria is no longer a concern — a move which would in turn neutralize Iranian influence in the region — Israel then would turn its attention to ISIS, bolstered by other anti-ISIS forces from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United States. That would take several more years, however, during which time ISIS would continue to grow in both size and power. By the time they turn their attention to ISIS, it is quite possible that ISIS would have toppled the nations which Israel is counting on for support of such an operation. Too little, too late.

Traditionally such groups as ISIS have relied upon Saudi Arabia for support, but Saudi money is conspicuously absent from ISIS coffers. Unlike groups before, ISIS has gone self-financed, relying uponprostitution, slavery and oil for its financial well-being. This, in turn, removes the protections which Saudi Arabia has relied upon for almost a century to prevent such organizations from turning on the House of Saud and potentially conquering the kingdom which is now in the sights of the Islamic State.

In turn, the ISIS forces have all but forced the Kurds to become a mighty force unto themselves, much to the anger of neighboring Turkey. Rather than helping to fight ISIS, Turkey is instead attacking the forces standing in opposition to ISIS. The entire situation has spiraled out of control.

In effect, there is no side to support here, as each side is being supported at once in opposition to the other side. By enabling the creation of ISIS, we have taken an already unstable situation and poured gasoline over it. Now we are facing a true threat, not from ISIS or Iran or Syria, but against our own arrogance. We have been blinded to the death and destruction created by our actions in the Middle East.

We once were respected throughout the region, as neutral peacebrokers, the nation which oversaw the breakup of the Barbary pirates and a country which became eternal friends with the people of Iran when all of Europe ignored them. Now we are Israel’s expected muscle, to carry out their dirty work in an effort to destabilize the region and de-power those the tiny nation views as a threat. They will support anyone, if it meets a short-term goal, even if the result is a plot more complex and ridiculous than an episode of “Passions. This can, and will cost them long-term.

The United States cannot be party to this. Whatever the political and economic cost, the U.S. must disengage from all sides in the Middle East, before it is too late.

Alarming Evidence Suggests ISIS is Now a US-Israel Proxy Army - Page 2 of 2 - Chicago Post
 
Don't you guys remember in the beginning ISIS was being cheered for by the Western/Israeli members on this forum? Or am I the only one? ISIS was fighting along side rebels. Israeli's were supporting the group. Of course when ISIS got out of control they suddenly started blaming Muslims for that. :lol:

These fuckers are the biggest supporters of ISIS. Israeli's used to support ISIS, now they have to change their narrative. And this is what they say:

1. Assad, Iran , Hezbollah and Hamas all cooperate with ISIS and buy oil from them.

This is how low those rats will stoop.

I don't think the retard members on this forum realize they were cheering for ISIS. They accuse me of supporting ISIS even though I had no clue what the Syrian conflict was about at the time. :lol:

The retard members on this forum need to be used for lab experiments. Instead of testing hypothesises on rats we should test new things on PDF members.
 
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Don't you guys remember in the beginning ISIS was being cheered for by the Western/Israeli members on this forum? Or am I the only one? ISIS was fighting along side rebels. Israeli's were supporting the group. Of course when ISIS got out of control they suddenly started blaming Muslims for that

Nope,you're the only one.I can't remember a single Israeli/Western member cheering on ISIS.You're propably hallucinating as you're kind of insane.On the other hand you and fellow batshit crazy coreligionist nutcases like you cheered ISIS and other terror groups on several ocassions.
 
Nope,you're the only one.I can't remember a single Israeli/Western member cheering on ISIS.You're propably hallucinating as you're kind of insane.On the other hand you and fellow batshit crazy coreligionist nutcases like you cheered ISIS and other terror groups on several ocassions.

Bullshit you terrorist supporter. Your EU all supported ISIS terrorists and contributed to their growth. I never cheered for ISIS, I cheer for Hamas. If I cheered for Nashqabandi in Iraq before than I was a confused person. I support stability in the ME. And I support directing efforts against the terrorist state of Israel. President Assad warned you EU terrorist supporting scum that there will be blowback if you continue supporting terrorist. And what do you know they came back to France and fucked you up. You are the people who belong in Gauantanmo you terrorist supporting bastards. You cheer when ISIS bombs civilians in Lebanon and refer to it as attack on 'Hezbollah stronghold'. You cheer when ISIS attacks Hamas.

But when they attack you cry like bitch and blame Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah. You are fucking low of low terrorist supporting sons of goat fucking bitches. US/EU/Israel all need to be taken to ICC for supporting terrorism.

Yes you did support them, they just had different name early on in the conflict. You know what's funny you motherfucker, last time ISIS attacked Hamas you and your Israeli buddies here were celebrating and saying you are preparing popcorn for the ISIS buttkicking of Hamas. Now that your efforts completely failed you changed the story 180 degrees and now claim Hamas support ISIS. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Goat fucking dirty CIA terrorist scum. :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

Stupid fucking Jew goat fuckers need to be eradicated if the world want to eradicate ISIS.
 
Nope,you're the only one.I can't remember a single Israeli/Western member cheering on ISIS.You're propably hallucinating as you're kind of insane.On the other hand you and fellow batshit crazy coreligionist nutcases like you cheered ISIS and other terror groups on several ocassions.
"Not one jew will be left in jerusalem, and then we'll not stop untill none will be left in the world"
ISIS in Sinai threatens to attack Israel - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post
https://www.google.co.il/#q=ISIS+threaten+Israel
ISIS pledge second Holocaust: Horrifying jihadis' threat as fears for Jewish people rises | World | News | Daily Express
 
"Not one jew will be left in jerusalem, and then we'll not stop untill none will be left in the world"

This looks like the plains of the Golan. Israeli's speak very fluent Arabic and they look Arab. You're not fooling anybody goatfucker. You bombed Syrian army positions while they were in combat with ISIS. You buy oil from them. That info came from Russian intelligence briefing.
 
Bullshit you terrorist supporter. Your EU all supported ISIS terrorists and contributed to their growth. I never cheered for ISIS, I cheer for Hamas. If I cheered for Nashqabandi in Iraq before than I was a confused person. I support stability in the ME. And I support directing efforts against the terrorist state of Israel. President Assad warned you EU terrorist supporting scum that there will be blowback if you continue supporting terrorist. And what do you know they came back to France and fucked you up. You are the people who belong in Gauantanmo you terrorist supporting bastards. You cheer when ISIS bombs civilians in Lebanon and refer to it as attack on 'Hezbollah stronghold'. You cheer when ISIS attacks Hamas.

But when they attack you cry like bitch and blame Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah. You are fucking low of low terrorist supporting sons of goat fucking bitches. US/EU/Israel all need to be taken to ICC for supporting terrorism.

Yes you did support them, they just had different name early on in the conflict. You know what's funny you motherfucker, last time ISIS attacked Hamas you and your Israeli buddies here were celebrating and saying you are preparing popcorn for the ISIS buttkicking of Hamas. Now that your efforts completely failed you changed the story 180 degrees and now claim Hamas support ISIS. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Goat fucking dirty CIA terrorist scum. :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

Stupid fucking Jew goat fuckers need to be eradicated if the world want to eradicate ISIS.




@waz .....Hazzy gorgot to take his meds again
 
al qaeda = american

isis = israeli

taliban = hindu
 
Awwwwww.....look at you little cuuuuuuuuuute buuuuuuussyyy bitch. :D

Go run to moderators you little pussy servant of the Jew bitch. You have no use in life but to kiss Jewish @ss. Too bad for you moderators on vacation. You little pussies on this forum pathologically lie on daily basis but when someone puts you in your place you cry to the mods. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

I would hate to be you, Europe used to be magnificent civilization. Nowadays Europe is a useless union, you can't be proud or rise up anymore. Because the Jews have a grip on you like no other. You people are held hostage. Israel ordered of you to support ISIS terrorists to attack Assad, Hezbollah and Hamas and you did just that you terrorist supporting dogs of Israel. If anybody needs to go to ICC and Gauntanmo it's the Israeli government staff and all European/US servants who enabled ISIS and supported it.

You kneel down to the Jews, you cheap prostitute sons of shameless whores. Your people have no honor. The Jews fucking killed you Greeks, conspired against Romans in the past and done all sorts of atrocities against your people yet you support them. What kind of fucked up upbringing did sick people like you have to come out this way...I don't even wanna know.


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al qaeda = american

isis = israeli

taliban = hindu

Al Qaeda was created by US. Bin Laden was a partner and hero in US media at the time. If you don't remember this than you need to do more research.

US was flying militants in and out of Afghanistan. They had free visas to stay in US and got pay checks from the government. Don't tell me otherwise because we live here and saw them go back and forth. Some of died while there.
 
Al Qaeda was created by US. Bin Laden was a partner and hero in US media at the time. If you don't remember this than you need to do more research.

US was flying militants in and out of Afghanistan. They had free visas to stay in US and got pay checks from the government. Don't tell me otherwise because we live here and saw them go back and forth. Some of died while there.
no, "al qaeda" was not created by the US :disagree:






but with the Afghan mujhahideen thing they might have planted the seed though :P
 
This looks like the plains of the Golan. Israeli's speak very fluent Arabic and they look Arab. You're not fooling anybody goatfucker. You bombed Syrian army positions while they were in combat with ISIS. You buy oil from them. That info came from Russian intelligence briefing.
you can repeat 1000 times your bullshit lies
it doesn't make it true
 
Alarming Evidence Suggests ISIS is Now a US-Israel Proxy Army
November 6, 2015 |by Associated News|
Eva_Bee_illustration_007.jpg


For the past year, US, British and other western forces have been back in Iraq, supposedly in the cause of destroying the hyper-sectarian terror group Islamic State (formerly known as al-Qaida in Iraq). This was after Isis overran huge chunks of Iraqi and Syrian territory and proclaimed a self-styled Islamic caliphate.

The campaign isn’t going well. Last month, Isis rolled into the Iraqi city of Ramadi, while on the other side of the now nonexistent border its forces conquered the Syrian town of Palmyra. Al-Qaida’s official franchise, the Nusra Front, has also been making gains in Syria.

Some Iraqis complain that the US sat on its hands while all this was going on. The Americans insist they are trying to avoid civilian casualties, and claim significant successes. Privately, officials say they don’t want to be seen hammering Sunni strongholds in a sectarian war and risk upsetting their Sunni allies in the Gulf.

A revealing light on how we got here has now been shone by a recently declassified secret US intelligence report, written in August 2012, which uncannily predicts – and effectively welcomes – the prospect of a “Salafist principality” in eastern Syria and an al-Qaida-controlled Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. In stark contrast to western claims at the time, the Defense Intelligence Agency document identifies al-Qaida in Iraq (which became Isis) and fellow Salafists as the “major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” – and states that “western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey” were supporting the opposition’s efforts to take control of eastern Syria.

Raising the “possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality”, the Pentagon report goes on, “this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)”.

pretty well exactly what happened two years later. The report isn’t a policy document. It’s heavily redacted and there are ambiguities in the language. But the implications are clear enough. A year into the Syrian rebellion, the US and its allies weren’t only supporting and arming an opposition they knew to be dominated by extreme sectarian groups; they were prepared to countenance the creation of some sort of “Islamic state” – despite the “grave danger” to Iraq’s unity – as a Sunni buffer to weaken Syria.

That doesn’t mean the US created Isis, of course, though some of its Gulf allies certainly played a role in it – as the US vice-president, Joe Biden, acknowledged last year. But there was no al-Qaida in Iraq until the US and Britain invaded. And the US has certainly exploited the existence of Isis against other forces in the region as part of a wider drive to maintain western control.

The calculus changed when Isis started beheading westerners and posting atrocities online, and the Gulf states are now backing other groups in the Syrian war, such as the Nusra Front. But this US and western habit of playing with jihadi groups, which then come back to bite them, goes back at least to the 1980s war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, which fostered the original al-Qaida under CIA tutelage.

It was recalibrated during the occupation of Iraq, when US forces led by General Petraeus sponsored an El Salvador-style dirty war of sectarian death squads to weaken the Iraqi resistance. And it was reprised in 2011 in the Nato-orchestrated war in Libya, where Isis last week took control of Gaddafi’s home town of Sirte.

In reality, US and western policy in the conflagration that is now the Middle East is in the classic mould of imperial divide-and-rule. American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria, and mount what are effectively joint military operations with Iran against Isis in Iraq while supporting Saudi Arabia’s military campaign against Iranian-backed Houthi forces in Yemen. However confused US policy may often be, a weak, partitioned Iraq and Syria fit such an approach perfectly.

What’s clear is that Isis and its monstrosities won’t be defeated by the same powers that brought it to Iraq and Syria in the first place, or whose open and covert war-making has fostered it in the years since. Endless western military interventions in the Middle East have brought only destruction and division. It’s the people of the region who can cure this disease – not those who incubated the virus.

So goes the famous line from George Orwell’s novel 1984. And so, too, can our forces today claim over a number of groups we find in the Middle East. In many ways, the enemy of my enemy is my friend when dealing with the Middle East, and in the battle between ancient tribal groups, when you lack an enemy, sometimes you need to make one.

In a new report from the UN, it is revealed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were maintaining regular contact with members of the so-called Islamic State since May of 2013. Initial reports from the IDF stated that this was only for medical care for civilians, but that story fell apart when the UN observers identified direct contact between IDF forces and ISIS soldiers, including giving medical care to ISIS fighters. Observations even included the transfer of two crates from the IDF to ISIS forces, the contents of which have not been confirmed at this time. Further the UN report identified what the Syrians label a crossing point of forces between Israel and ISIS, a point of concern brought before the UN Security Council. This report from the UN strengthens the claims by the Syrian regime that Israel is heavily involved in operations within the nation.

This is part of a continuing pattern of Israeli support for the Islamic State. It was only two months ago thatIsrael attacked Syrian forces in opposition to ISIS forces. Israeli attacks even killed an Iranian military adviser for the Syrian military just two weeks ago. The U.S.’s financing of ISIS, part of the effort against Syrian president Assad, is well documented, as well. That the efforts to undermine the Assad regime were in turn strengthening the same terrorist group which recently set a Jordanian pilot on fire to set an exampleis conveniently ignored by the higher up military command.

When the United States began operations against ISIS, Israeli high command seemed reluctant to give any support and called the move a mistake. The support of ISIS fits in with Israeli concerns in the region, namely that of Syria and Iran, and U.S. opposition to ISIS has put the United States in the awkward position of once again arming the enemies we will be fighting tomorrow.

Syria and Iran both pose a threat to Israel with their sizable conventional forces and political clout in the region, in much the same way Iraq was before the elimination of Saddam Hussein. With the toppling of Saddam, pieces of concern remain, and Israel appears to still maintain the old axiom that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Supporting ISIS for Israel enables them to eliminate two issues at once, only once Syria is no longer a concern — a move which would in turn neutralize Iranian influence in the region — Israel then would turn its attention to ISIS, bolstered by other anti-ISIS forces from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United States. That would take several more years, however, during which time ISIS would continue to grow in both size and power. By the time they turn their attention to ISIS, it is quite possible that ISIS would have toppled the nations which Israel is counting on for support of such an operation. Too little, too late.

Traditionally such groups as ISIS have relied upon Saudi Arabia for support, but Saudi money is conspicuously absent from ISIS coffers. Unlike groups before, ISIS has gone self-financed, relying uponprostitution, slavery and oil for its financial well-being. This, in turn, removes the protections which Saudi Arabia has relied upon for almost a century to prevent such organizations from turning on the House of Saud and potentially conquering the kingdom which is now in the sights of the Islamic State.

In turn, the ISIS forces have all but forced the Kurds to become a mighty force unto themselves, much to the anger of neighboring Turkey. Rather than helping to fight ISIS, Turkey is instead attacking the forces standing in opposition to ISIS. The entire situation has spiraled out of control.

In effect, there is no side to support here, as each side is being supported at once in opposition to the other side. By enabling the creation of ISIS, we have taken an already unstable situation and poured gasoline over it. Now we are facing a true threat, not from ISIS or Iran or Syria, but against our own arrogance. We have been blinded to the death and destruction created by our actions in the Middle East.

We once were respected throughout the region, as neutral peacebrokers, the nation which oversaw the breakup of the Barbary pirates and a country which became eternal friends with the people of Iran when all of Europe ignored them. Now we are Israel’s expected muscle, to carry out their dirty work in an effort to destabilize the region and de-power those the tiny nation views as a threat. They will support anyone, if it meets a short-term goal, even if the result is a plot more complex and ridiculous than an episode of “Passions. This can, and will cost them long-term.

The United States cannot be party to this. Whatever the political and economic cost, the U.S. must disengage from all sides in the Middle East, before it is too late.

Alarming Evidence Suggests ISIS is Now a US-Israel Proxy Army - Page 2 of 2 - Chicago Post



An interesting read. Thanks.
 
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