Al Qaeda and Pakistan

[Spring Onion]

India is going all out to help the Afghans. There are many Indian doctors, engineers and other professionals rebuilding the country. We've spent quite a sum already.

Its Pakistan which has always used the Afghans to their advantage along with the USA.

Stealth you know in the hearts of your heart that India is not doing so out of any love for Afghans same as US spending billions of dollars in many countries not out of love for them but for gaining strategic depth.

many of the Indians who are working in these projects in Afghanistan are inetllegence operatives too.

Above all lets have some guts to accept that everyone working in Afghanistan is working for own intrests.
Indis is on top of it.

If India was so much intrested in only building Afghanistan why it had never approached Taliban for that purpose ???

Or why it did not during other governments in Afghanistan after Russian withdrawl???

Why India has only become active when there is anti-Pakistan elements in power in Afghanistan.

Let face the reality by posting emotional stuff against Pakistan and terming India a holy cow that is helping rebuilding Afghanistan without any intrest is just a bluff.

 

[Vinod2070]

India is going all out to help the Afghans. There are many Indian doctors, engineers and other professionals rebuilding the country. We've spent quite a sum already.

Its Pakistan which has always used the Afghans to their advantage along with the USA.

There is no doubt about the tremendous Indian contrbution towards the rebuilding of Afghanistan. It has been the biggest effort by India internationally and the Afghans are recognizing that effort. That why there is high approval of India among ordinary Afghans. We can be surely proud of that effort.

My post was in relation to the mutual feeling that Afghanistan has been used to harm the other country's interests. There is no doubt that till that feeling remains, Afghnaistan can never be stable.

 

[IceCold]

There is no doubt about the tremendous Indian contrbution towards the rebuilding of Afghanistan. It has been the biggest effort by India internationally and the Afghans are recognizing that effort. That why there is high approval of India among ordinary Afghans. We can be surely proud of that effort.

My post was in relation to the mutual feeling that Afghanistan has been used to harm the other country's interests. There is no doubt that till that feeling remains, Afghnaistan can never be stable.

You need to get off from this moral high horse of yours. India is not doing anything out of goodwill in Afghanistan and those who acknowledge india's effort are all from NA which have always been anti Pakistan through out the history.
The sophisticated technology and tactics found by the militants fighting the PA speak of a different fact which you guys ought to disagree with but the fact remains the same that they are getting out side help.

But having said so i dont blame India because India will take advantage of every situation that it can take off against Pakistan and so would we. Like i mentioned in my previous post that all odds are in your favour, what remains to be seen is who comes on top.

 

[indiapakistanfriendship]

Stealth you know in the hearts of your heart that India is not doing so out of any love for Afghans same as US spending billions of dollars in many countries not out of love for them but for gaining strategic depth.

Every nation worth its salt does it, whats wrong in trying to gain strategic depth through goodwill measures, you virtually ran afghanistan for years to gan strategic depth, China does it in Africa and we are doin it in Afghanistan. EDITED: No need to be rude

many of the Indians who are working in these projects in Afghanistan are inetllegence operatives too.

Your nation has not shared an iota of proof, except for articles emnating from cheap news sources. period. Where is financeial transcripts, explsive residues, weapons and suppliers, terrorists in custody accepting Indian involvement. Pakistani governments silence clearly shows that you have nothing to bow other than hot air.

Above all lets have some guts to accept that everyone working in Afghanistan is working for own intrests.
Indis is on top of it.

Like I said every country does it, the only issue is how you do it. Gaining strategic depth need not always be spies working over the clock, giving arms traing and blowing up people. it can be rebuilding the infrastructure, creating job opportunities etc. China is doing this big time in Africa so are we in Afghanistan.

If India was so much intrested in only building Afghanistan why it had never approached Taliban for that purpose ???

Taliban was not recognised ny the un. Also we do not prefer working with xenophobes and terrorists.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Your nation has not shared an iota of proof, except for articles emnating from cheap news sources. period. Where is financeial transcripts, explsive residues, weapons and suppliers, terrorists in custody accepting Indian involvement. Pakistani governments silence clearly shows that you have nothing to bow other than hot air.

Lets not conveniently ignore that neither has yours, or for that matter the US, offered any tangible evidence that is a smoking gun -- it has been mostly 'hot air' statements and 'news sources'.

In fact, when a senior IA officer was challenged during a conference by the Pakistani defense attache for evidence that Pakistan was behind the embassy bombing, after the said IA official repeated the allegations, the response was something absurd along the lines of, 'we are being neighborly, and hence not sharing evidence".

Indian lives must be pretty cheap for the GoI if IA officers are going to flippantly dismiss requests for making public evidence on issues of terrorism - or perhaps there is no evidence to share.

P.S: Pakistan's contribution to Afghanistan: $ 300 million so far, food stock donations, especially wheat, and continuing support for hundreds of thousands if not millions of refugees.

 

[indiapakistanfriendship]

You need to get off from this moral high horse of yours. India is not doing anything out of goodwill in Afghanistan and those who acknowledge india's effort are all from NA which have always been anti Pakistan through out the history

Ok, I agree, but whats wrong with this?

The sophisticated technology and tactics found by the militants fighting the PA speak of a different fact which you guys ought to disagree with but the fact remains the same that they are getting out side help.

Whats so sophistaicated about rifles, satellite radios, scopes . They for one sure are not using raptors?

Tactics:The Taliban have been in war for decades, trained by CIA and ISI, they have enormous warfighting experince, so what makes you think they will not have sophisticated tacticts and menouvers.

As far as the shophistication of terror attacks is considered, why are you not bringing into the picture fundamentalist wahabi Saudis who have deep pockets and Al queda which has the sophistication to carry out attacks right in the heart of America.

So what makes you say that the way they operate points to foreign intelligence.

Your government for one has not been able to produce any tangible proof like radio intercepts, financial dealings, weapon markings, residues, human proof...

 

[indiapakistanfriendship]

Lets not conveniently ignore that neither has yours, or for that matter the US, offered any tangible evidence that is a smoking gun -- it has been mostly 'hot air' statements and 'news sources'.

When was the last time you acepted any evidence.. We have ample proof of Dawood operating in Pakistan yet your overnment refuses to acknowledge his presence in Pakistan. Period Let us not kid our selfs here ..

In fact, when a senior IA officer was challenged during a conference by the Pakistani defense attache for evidence that Pakistan was behind the embassy bombing, after the said IA official repeated the allegations, the response was something absurd along the lines of, 'we are being neighborly, and hence not sharing evidence".

Indian lives must be pretty cheap for the GoI if IA officers are going to flippantly dismiss requests for making public evidence on issues of terrorism - or perhaps there is no evidence to share.

Kabus was an external happening rather than internal happening. Providing evidence will directly lead to crippling of our intelligence operatives and sources and assets. Period. Atleast for internal events in Pakistan have you provided any evidence, your government even during Musharaff's regime did not make much hue and cry about Indian involvement like many do in forums. This shows that there is nothnig but lot of hot air.

P.S: Pakistan's contribution to Afghanistan: $ 300 million so far, food stock donations, especially wheat, and continuing support for hundreds of thousands if not millions of refugees.

Add to that, one of the most xenophobic regimes on earth, greatest human rights violator of the century, taking a nation a nation back to stone age, whether it was heading oin that dircetion is subjective but you had your hands dirtied for your so called Strategic depth.

IPF