Al Jazeera: Is China cracking down on Ramadan? | The Stream

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[maximuswarrior]

Stupid American.

 

[Numerous]

Stupid American.

Why is he stupid?

I haven't watched the documentary but just judging from the title - what's actually wrong with it?

Pakistanis who have actual uighur wives already tell us about the evils of chinese communists against Muslims in that region. What's wrong if this guy posts about it too?

 

[maximuswarrior]

Why is he stupid?

I haven't watched the documentary but just judging from the title - what's actually wrong with it?

Pakistanis who have actual uighur wives already tell us about the evils of chinese communists against Muslims in that region. What's wrong if this guy posts about it too?

It is very hard to take the word of a true Muslim hater seriously. China doesn't kill or occupy Muslims. The US does.

China is simply looking after its interests. I hope Pakistan learns one or two things from China.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Stupid American.

Why is he stupid?

I haven't watched the documentary but just judging from the title - what's actually wrong with it?

Pakistanis who have actual uighur wives already tell us about the evils of chinese communists against Muslims in that region. What's wrong if this guy posts about it too?

In another thread about Pakistani workers who have been fired and threatened for doing Ramadan by Chinese companies...
You can check that Most if not all of the CN members "Criticized" Pakistan for going to pray and fasting During Ramadan and putting their Under-Dev society current situation because of that...

They are doing the same in your own country...and still people think that they wouldn't do the same in their own home where they have full control...
CN history towards minorities isn't a secret either...

 

[Numerous]

It is very hard to take the word of a true Muslim hater seriously. China doesn't kill or occupy Muslims. The US does.

China is simply looking after its interests. I hope Pakistan learns one or two things from China.

Well it's not his word, it's Al Jazeera's. He is just posting a link.

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2019/04/uighur-wives-of-pakistanis-forced-to-eat-pork-drink-alcohol/

Samaa tv as far as I'm aware is not owned by Muslim haters either.

Do you want Pakistan to lock up religious Muslims like China does? What do you want Pakistan to learn from these people?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Yes.

 

[Three_Kingdoms]

Why is he stupid?

I haven't watched the documentary but just judging from the title - what's actually wrong with it?

Pakistanis who have actual uighur wives already tell us about the evils of chinese communists against Muslims in that region. What's wrong if this guy posts about it too?

VAST majority of law-abiding muslims enjoy their lives here in China and prosper with the rest of the Chinese folks.
Only the crime-prone or terrorists who are commissioned by some ill-will countries aim to create troubles in China are bad-mouthing us!

 

[maximuswarrior]

Well it's not his word, it's Al Jazeera's. He is just posting a link.

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2019/04/uighur-wives-of-pakistanis-forced-to-eat-pork-drink-alcohol/

Samaa tv as far as I'm aware is not owned by Muslim haters either.

Do you want Pakistan to lock up religious Muslims like China does? What do you want Pakistan to learn from these people?

He is an American who is posting crap against China 24/7. You know this too.

China did not kill or occupy Islamic nations. The US did. The poster belongs to the US and he needs to look at the hate record against Muslims in his own country before criticizing others.

China won't become another ISIS hole. They are instilling patriotism in their people. At times they can take it a little too far, but it is kindergarten stuff compared to US hatred and killings of Muslims.

Americans are hypocrites for calling out China. We all know that the Americans don't really care about Chinese Muslims. This is propaganda against China.

 

[Numerous]

In another thread about Pakistani workers who have been fired and threatened for doing Ramadan by Chinese companies...
You can check that Most if not all of the CN members "Criticized" Pakistan for going to pray and fasting During Ramadan and putting their Under-Dev society current situation because that...

They are doing the same in your own country...and still people think that they wouldn't do the same in their own home where they have full control...
CN history towards minorities isn't a secret either...

Do you mean prayer issue thread?

Well it's just the way Pakistanis and especially nationalists have been raised. We go to the extremes in hating rival countries and we go to the extreme in loving supposed friendly nations, to the point where we don't see any good in our rivals and don't see the bad in our "friendly" neighbours.

Even after Iran was threatening us, we had people praying for their dead soldiers and even though there seems to be overwhelming evidence that China is oppressing Muslims, many of us are happy to deny it because accepting it would shatter our world view and raise many moral issues. But these are good people, even if their current opinions are either naive or outright evil (out of ignorance), they need to time to come to terms with what is actually reality, they can't ignore what's right forever.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and stand by our Muslim brothers in Uighur Turkistan,
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your miserable CPEC
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your military platforms and will buy American
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we want to end the JF-17 Tunder joint fighter project
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your loans and grants
And by ending it all face the reality by castrating Pakistan.

Or do we face the reality and sorrows of life. Bite our lips and keeping getting help from Chinese while they toast/kill our Uighur Muslim brothers. That is the question?

Ps. Of course I say fcuk the Chinese but then it is easy for me. I am safe, comfy, chilled and living it up under Her Majesties majestic rule in Great Britain. Long live the Queen.

 

[Numerous]

He is an American who is posting crap against China 24/7. You know this too.

China did not kill or occupy Islamic nations. The US did. The poster belongs to the US and he needs to look at the hate record against Muslims in his own country before criticizing others.

China won't become another ISIS hole. They are instilling patriotism in their people. At times they can take it a little too far, but it is kindergarten stuff compared to US hatred and killings of Muslims.

Americans are hypocrites for calling out China. We all know that the Americand don't really care about Chinese Muslims. This is propaganda against China.

Then let him, there are 1.2 billion Chinese, they can defend themselves.

Well China is certainly doing some very dodgy things to uighurs - do you deny it?

Sure the US is evil but so are communists who are ruling China. The world isn't black and right, it isn't split into Americans and good people.

The vast majority of those people China is oppressing have nothing to do with ISIS. In fact you even saying something like that is literally the same as when the US attacks Muslims and says they are actually fighting XYZ terrorist group.

Locking up a million people and trying to brain wash them, forcing some of our sisters to marry scummy communists in order to save their family, killing some of them for their organs, drugging them, torture, brainwashing, forcing them to drink alcohol and eat pork. These aren't little things, if the americans did this, you would be raising your fist in anger - so why defend these chinese? Doesn't that make you the hypocrite? Just like US.

No,propaganda is lies. This isn't lies. This is the truth.

I'm not trying to insult or be aggressive towards you but some Pakistanis really need ask themselves some really tough moral questions as they go about sticking up for China for it's oppression against uighurs.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and stand by our Muslim brothers in Uighur Turkistan,
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your miserable CPEC
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your military platforms and will buy American
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we want to end the JF-17 Tunder joint fighter project
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your loans and grants
And by ending it all face the reality by castrating Pakistan.

Or do we face the reality and sorrows of life. Bite our lips and keeping getting help from Chinese while they toast/kill our Uighur Muslim brothers. That is the question?

Ps. Of course I say fcuk the Chinese but then it is easy for me. I am safe, comfy, chilled and living it up under Her Majesties majestic rule in Great Britain. Long live the Queen.

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So this new form of Neo-Colonialism is better than Some sort of Honor?
Then why fighting the British in the first place?
Why even getting all this independence movement or that Indian War?

What all of this "Dev" if you can't own it with your eyes open?
All of that for few bridges? few Thunders? or an ally who play on both side when it suits him?

I hear more Long Live China on this Forum...than a Long Live Pakistan...

 

[Numerous]

Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and stand by our Muslim brothers in Uighur Turkistan,
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your miserable CPEC
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your military platforms and will buy American
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we want to end the JF-17 Tunder joint fighter project
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your loans and grants
And by ending it all face the reality by castrating Pakistan.

Or do we face the reality and sorrows of life. Bite our lips and keeping getting help from Chinese while they toast/kill our Uighur Muslim brothers. That is the question?

Ps. Of course I say fcuk the Chinese but then it is easy for me. I am safe, comfy, chilled and living it up under Her Majesties majestic rule in Great Britain. Long live the Queen.

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Don't get your blood pressure too high, I know you can afford the best private healthcare but still. Just relax in your mansion and let us villagers and state school peasants deal with the issue.

 

[OIO]

There are many Chinese most han left China to West after 1989, they are paid bashing China all the time, no one in China take it seriously.
same to these Uighurs left China.