Ahsan Iqbal severely condemns Dawn’s CPEC ‘master plan’ article, terms it Dawn Leaks II

[war&peace]

If the Leak part 1 was handled properly and as per merit by punishing the culprit, today would have been peaceful.

1000% agreed
and if we still don't rectify our mistakes, we will see a lot more such leakages all over the place.

 

[Samlee]

What the hell is wrong with dawn news ?

The Thing Is That Now They Have Escaped Dawn Leaks 1 They Think They Have Impunity To Fabricate Stories On Payroll of India and Post Them On Their Newspapers.They Now Know That As Long As NS Is PM They Will Be Under No Accountability.

This **** Will Stop Once Cyril Almaida and Zafar Abbas Are Tried for Treason.

It Is Time The People Of Pakistan Rise Up Against The Corrupt Mafia Called Media

 

[karakoram]

The Thing Is That Now They Have Escaped Dawn Leaks 1 They Think They Have Impunity To Fabricate Stories On Payroll of India and Post Them On Their Newspapers.They Now Know That As Long As NS Is PM They Will Be Under No Accountability.

This **** Will Stop Once Cyril Almaida and Zafar Abbas Are Tried for Treason.

It Is Time The People Of Pakistan Rise Up Against The Corrupt Mafia Called Media

The most corrupt and so power full without any check n balance

 

[Samlee]

Kudos to DAWN for doing its job to inform the public, something the government has clearly failed to do. It's also interesting to note that any criticism of CPEC is tantamount to treason in some quarters.

Yeah Kudos To DAWN For Doing It's "job".By Job I Mean Taking Money From India And Becoming Their Mouthpiece

 

[Kabira]

watch ahsan iqbal interview on CPEC dawn leaks from 21:00

 

[mingle]

This is another leaked papers by Maryam Nawaz media cell like previous Dawn story .

 

[Sierra Alpha Alpha Delta]

• I don't support any political party, but if we simply just look at the facts, yes the economy today is growing thanks mainly to the China-Pakistan-Economic-Corridor (CPEC). The main question that arises is if the country is growing at its full potential pace? In my opinion, I believe that the economy could grow faster if the federal government wasn't busy putting the majority of the foreign aid and investments into thier own pockets. The strategy of the Pakistan-Muslim-League-Noon Party (PMLN) is based on pure corruption. The PMLN has looted the country countless of times and has used that in their lies they publish in commercials and banners before every election. They use the money they have looted for their political campaign ads and commercials. Their main slogan is that they have built many things for Pakistan in the past. The truth is that they haven't really built anything! CPEC was started by the Pakistan Army negotiations with China during the time of Field Marshal Ayub Khan back in the late 1950's. Eventually thanks to the efforts of the Army Corp of Engineers and Chinese laborers, the country had built the great Karakorum Highway by 1979 with the Army’s Frontier Works Organization. CPEC was further implemented by the Army’s efforts under General Pervez Musharraf in 2002 with the Gwadar Port project on the rise. The only thing Nawaz Sharif did was host the Chinese Premier on February 2014, and went to China to receive a thirty year plan that the Chinese Government had already made for Pakistan to implement. The Chinese were going to give this plan to the government anyways, regardless of which government was in power. The PMLN is taking false credit for the projects. CPEC is a part of the Chinese self-interests in the greater One-Belt-One-Road (OBOR) Project. On 22 May, 2013 the Chinese Premier Li Keqiang was the one to propose to Asif Ali Zardari the CPEC project. Zardari can just as easily take credit for something that was naturally setup to happen thanks to the Pakistan Army from back in the late 1950’s & 2000's. Nawaz Sharif also says that the atomic tests in 1998 was also his achievement which is another lie. Nawaz Sharif was apprehensive and too scared from American pressure to conduct the atomic tests. Nawaz Sharif was never going to conduct the tests if it wasn’t for the safety and leadership of the Pakistan Army under General Jehangir Karamat and the organization done by Dr. Abdul Qadir Khan. Finally, as far as the motorway and metro bus / train projects are concerned, more resources and money have been poured in to these projects from foreign suppliers than needed. It has always been seen that the extra money doesn't go into the projects but into the pockets of the corrupt politicians. It is sad to see that instead of building universities, hospitals, a police force, proper food, water, and electrical facilities, the corrupt PMLN politicians are filling their own pockets through commissioning money from infrastructure projects like the motorway and CPEC. The reason why PMLN wins every time in the Punjab is because rural Punjabis actually believe that 100 percent of the money is going into developing the nation, and are clueless about all of the money thier leaders are actually stealing. Rural Punjabis are also voting for PMLN because the majority of Punjabi family members are in the local governments. This highlights Pakistan's complex political family system. Even Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif himself has allot of family members in the current government. It has always been seen that the PMLN gives tickets to the majority of the family and friends of the senior members of the party. Let’s face it, the PMLN are ransacking dry a nation with allot of potential, and whispering lies in the ears of people in order to steal every election.

 

[The Eagle]

1000% agreed
and if we still don't rectify our mistakes, we will a lot more such leakages all over the place.

First thing for sure that credibility of the leak has to be verified yet that either the leak itself was based upon correct information or the deliberate fabricated leak is done for propaganda and lies. IMO, both leaks were based more upon propaganda and twisting facts as compare to reality but the point is, it is PMLn that spared DAWN in first place then Asif Sahib shouldn't be complaining this time. Or, from a critic point of view, is the time came where PMLn has to prove its loyalty to the sponsor as well as its friendship based upon business to the partner through deliberate leaks against two most important subjects for Pakistan as PA and CPEC yet playing a victim card as to be treated innocent. I don't know why but seems like something at large is at play and PMLn is part of the same.

 

[war&peace]

First thing for sure that credibility of the leak has to be verified yet that either the leak itself was based upon correct information or the deliberate fabricated leak is done for propaganda and lies. IMO, both leaks were based more upon propaganda and twisting facts as compare to reality but the point is, it is PMLn that spared DAWN in first place then Asif Sahib shouldn't be complaining this time. Or, from a critic point of view, is the time came where PMLn has to prove its loyalty to the sponsor as well as its friendship based upon business to the partner through deliberate leaks against two most important subjects for Pakistan as PA and CPEC yet playing a victim card as to be treated innocent. I don't know why but seems like something at large is at play and PMLn is part of the same.

Pakistan's political leadership, especially BB, NS, and AH have been working against the interests of the state. They leave Pakistan as soon as they are out of govt and return to Pakistan just to rule. There were very credible reports that PMLn's election campaign was sponsored by hostile foreign agencies and there is little doubt in that.

They tried to make CPEC controversial multiple times before so much so that Chinese ambassador had to intervene and get active on Twitter. India has shamelessly opposed CPEC on the highest state level and openly threatened to sabotage it. There is a lot of evidence that NS is playing for their interests take the example of KY or any other issue, NS never opened his mouth except for barking against IK.

However, my main concern right now is the compromise made by our military top brass. Are they not aware of all these facts? Do they lack even the basic acumen to grasp the situation? Do they not know that internal and hidden enemies are far more dangerous than any external threats and open enemies?

When our guardians have taken a backseat and decided to keep quiet then what can we do except complaining and praying for the country?

I see a lot more such fabricated stories in surfacing in the sold out media especially Dawn in coming day as their tails are up after the fiasco of Dawn-leaks-1 now we have Dawn-leaks 2, and 3, 4, 5,... will be in pipeline and coming soon..

 

[The Eagle]

However my main concern right now is the compromise made by our military top brass. Are they not aware of all these facts? Do they lack even the basic acumen to grasp the situation? Do they not know that internal and hidden enemies are far more dangerous than any external threats and open enemies?

What if I say, the things that we see are not like what it seems but different.

When our guardians have taken a backseat and decided to keep quiet then what we do and I see a lot more such fabricated stories in surfacing in the sold out media especially Dawn in coming day as their tails are up after the fiasco of Dawn-leaks-1 now we have Dawn-leaks 2, and 3, 4, 5,... will be in pipeline coming soon..

Remember, the same lot is being supported by people that they are still in power hence, direct confrontation could be harmful as well as against the law hence, if it is me, I will let loose further a bit so that the Nation itself may see the reality and decide for ourselves. Just imagine, time before such leaks and there was no such awareness among us that how culprits are running their business but as soon as such happened, many became aware. I wish you can catch the drift.

Pakistan's political leadership, especially BB, NS, and AH have been working against the interests of the state. They leave Pakistan as soon as they are out of govt and return into Pakistan just to rule. There were very credible reports that PMLn's election campaigne was sponsored by hostile foreign agencies and there is little doubt in that.

They tried to make CPEC controversial multiple times before so much so that Chinese ambassador had to intervene and get active on Twitter. India has shamelessly opposed CPEC on the highest state level and openly threatened to sabotage it. There is a lot of evidence that NS is playing for their interests take example of KY or any other issue, NS never opened his mouth except for barking against IK.

The subject is too wide and complicated but in simple understanding, our people need awareness. There is a possibility of plantation of such people by enemy and also, IMO, our internal politics is heavily influenced by foreign stake holders as compare to the same influenced lot propagate as against PA.

 

[war&peace]

What if I say, the things that we see are not like what it seems but different.

I hope and wish that it is the case but I have no evidence to believe so.

Remember, the same lot is being supported by people that they are still in power hence, direct confrontation could be harmful as well as against the law hence, if it is me, I will let loose further a bit so that the Nation itself may see the reality and decide for ourselves. Just imagine, time before such leaks and there was no such awareness among us that how culprits are running their business but as soon as such happened, many became aware. I wish you can catch the drift.

I see it differently, actually a lot different. First of all his support in public is over-rated and our military leadership needs to re-evaluate the situation on the ground. One straight hint they can get from none other than the former COAS Kiyani who helped NS in rigging. Furthermore, when Pervaiz Musharraf dismissed NS in 2001, nothing happened i.e. no large scale or even small scale demonstrations. Unlike PPP's and MQM's supporters, PMLn supporters are coward opportunists and who are corrupted to the core so they won't take to the streets especially against the army.

Well, taking action against the culprits is not against the law. The national security is the most important thing and beyond and above any man-made law. Laws and constitutions are for the country and the nation and not the other way around.

New laws and constitutions are made, amended, abrogated, neglected and put in abeyance whenever needed. But the state, its integrity, independence, and sovereignty are the most important factors to consider.
Apart from that, Army Act gives army and its leadership the legal cover and all the freedom to take action against the individuals and group that are damaging the state. So I think it is pointless to wait until every person will be unanimous because it never happens and it is impractical especially in a nation with 50-60% literacy rate. There will always be a small group that will support these goons for a lot of sinister and nefarious reasons. However, this wait is hurting the country and the enemies and traitors are not getting weak rather they are buying time to gather more strength and drown the state into more trouble. If we are just playing the game of wait & see and not doing anything to address the issue, I don't see how the situation will improve on its own.

The subject is too wide and complicated but in simple understanding, our people need awareness. There is a possibility of plantation of such people by enemy and also, IMO, our internal politics is heavily influenced by foreign stake holders as compare to the same influenced lot propagate as against PA.

It may appear daunting and complicated but in fact it is not if we set our priorities right and be sincere and true our nation, and especially if we truly believe in Almight Allah ( not just verbal claim). First of all, conflict of interests.

A business man who becomes a head of state/govt will never be sincere and dedicated to the country and it is true the world over thus there are laws and mechanisms to isolate the two. A medical doctor who is serving in govt hospital and also practices privately will mostly likely be not totally dedicated to his govt job that pays him less as compared to his private practice. Furthermore, assets in foreign countries and offshore companies.
Why NS has both his sons living abroad while he is the PM of the country and he and his wife both are Pakistani citizens?.

• When Abu Bakr became the caliph, there was no provision of stipend, salary or compensation for the caliph so was doing the business of selling his handmade head gearns/wares, so Umer and other campinion objected to that practice and consituted the stipend for the caliph so that he dedicates himself to the statecraft and also he does not take advantage of his official position/title to get unfair deals and business. So we already have a strong precedence from our history.

• Universal and unbiased justice for all: In Holy Prophet (ﷺ)'s time a woman named Faatima, belonging to an influential and rich Makhzoom family of the Quraish, was caught stealing and brought in the court of the holy Prophet ٰ(ﷺ) for the justice and he (ﷺ) sentenced her as per the law. A companion of the Prophet (ﷺ), named Osama ibne Zaid (may Allah be pleased with him), approached him (ﷺ) and interceded to save her given her family's status in the society. Holy Prophet (ﷺ) not only rejected his request but also uttered these historic words "Many a community ruined itself in the past as they only punished the poor and ignored the offences of the exalted. By Allah, if Muhammad's (My) daughter Faatimah would have committed theft, her hand would have been severed.". These words should form the basis of every constitution & law and our actiions should be guided by them.

• Fear should never be a policy. After the departure of Holy Prophet (ﷺ), the whole Muslim community was sad, demoralised and disappointed and it was at this point the caliph Abu Bakr decided to send the military expedition to suppress the zakat-evaders / deniers. All chips were down and even Omar was against it.

May Allah guide us to the right path and show us facts and bestow upon us the courage and determination to eradicate the evil.

 

[The Eagle]

One straight hint they can get from none other than the former COAS Kiyani who helped NS in rigging. Furthermore, when Pervaiz Musharraf dismissed NS in 2001, nothing happened i.e. no large scale or even small scale demonstrations. Unlike PPP's and MQM's supporters, PMLn supporters are coward opportunists and who are corrupted to the core so they won't take to the streets especially against the army.

I wasn't referring internal protest at all. As soon something like Musharaf happens, we will see international sanctions and what not that the country will be pulled back to many years that we just started our journey of prosperity. Remember, not everyone disguised as friend, is necessarily to be friend especially since our economic growth and joint ventures with China and possibly Russia in this region.

Army can only approach a proper forum in-case of such findings against ruling person but cannot act directly that we call it toppling, coup and overthrowing. In the current situation, I don't think that Military has to become a party against a sitting PM especially where we have our hands full of priority issues because, PM can be handled but not the prominent enemy which has to be dealt by force only as having no other option. Until & unless, if I am not done with one or two fronts, I would just hang on with the third and will not opt to open it as the same will not just stretch the legs but will also divert the force as well as energy and things may get messy especially where many are waiting for an opportunity in this regard. People has to play the part as well that Army alone cannot do all alone.

 

[war&peace]

I wasn't referring internal protest at all. As soon something like Musharaf happens, we will see international sanctions and what not that the country will be pulled back to many years that we just started our journey of prosperity. Remember, not everyone disguised as friend, is necessarily to be friend especially since our economic growth and joint ventures with China and possibly Russia in this region.

Army can only approach a proper forum in-case of such findings against ruling person but cannot act directly that we call it toppling, coup and overthrowing. In the current situation, I don't think that Military has to become a party against a sitting PM especially where we have our hands full of priority issues because, PM can be handled but not the prominent enemy which has to be dealt by force only as having no other option. Until & unless, if I am not done with one or two fronts, I would just hang on with the third and will not opt to open it as the same will not just stretch the legs but will also divert the force as well as energy and things may get messy especially where many are waiting for an opportunity in this regard. People has to play the part as well that Army alone cannot do all alone.

Sir, if a person has been diagnosed with cancer, he has to go through chemotherapy which is equivalent of treating the lethal disease with poison. Both the disease and poison alone can kill the person under normal circumstances. But the patient has cancerous cells, the poison is absorbed by those cells more than the healthy cells. But still the side effects are immense, the person will lose most of the body mass, all his hair, skin will turn bluish white like a zombie but in the end, his life will be saved. Hair will regrow, skin-color will get normal and he will start to gain weight. Though the chemotherapy will be painful, it will be a life savior.

I don't know if I'm able to get my point across but I'm trying or I'm screaming in the wilderness. Though our objectives are the same, perhaps the approaches are different.