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Ahmed Shah Abdali was the founder of the Durrani Empire, and was the last conqueror to come from Pakistan (he was born in Multan to Pakhtun parents). He is also regarded as the founder of the country of Afghanistan. He ruled from 1747–1772, over an empire that included almost all of Pakistan and Afghanistan, as well as parts of Iran. He's remembered most affectionately by his fellow Pakhtuns.

Ahmed Shah Abdali, before starting his empire, was a member of Nader Shah's army, and quickly rose the ranks, eventually commanding his own cavalry group.

Once Nader Shah was assassinated by his bodyguards, Abdali acted decisively. At a Jirga in Kandahar, he announced himself as leader of the Pakhtun tribes. Pir Sabir Shah, the spiritual guide of Pakhtun tribes validated the selection by showering his praise for the young Ahmad Shah Abdali and declared him Durr-e-Durran (pearl of the pearls), hence the beginning of the nickname Durrani.

Ahmed Shah Abdali quickly seized control of numerous cities across Afghanistan and Pakistan. By 1751, almost all of Pakistan, Afghanistan and parts of Iran were under his control. He also plundered Delhi, Agra, Mathura and Vrindavan in 1757. On his way back, Abdali also attacked the Golden Temple (a Sikh holy site) in Amristar and filled its 'sacred' pool with the blood of slaughtered cows and people. In 1758, by a force of Marathas, the Punjab was removed from Abdali's empire. However, from 1759-1761, Abdali swept the Marathas from the Punjab and destroyed their large army at Panipat, retaking the province.

He also had to deal with numerous Sikh rebellions, which eventually culminated in the Sikhs also managing to take Punjab in the 1760's. Despite Abdali's repeated attempts to retake the province, the Sikhs always managed to regain control once Abdali retired back to Afghanistan. This repeated several times, until Abdali realised the province was out of his grasp, and all he could do was launch attacks against the Sikhs, but not permanently occupy the land under their control.

Ahmed Shah Abdali then continued to successfully defend the rest of his empire from both foreign and domestic threats, but was unable to engage in any more foreign expeditions due to his declining health. He died of a facial cancer in 1773, and is buried in Kandahar. There is also a Masjid named after him, as well as a birth monument (both in Multan).

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ahmad-Shah-Durrani
https://pakteahouse.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/ahmad-shah-durrani-a-king-of-high-rank/
http://historypak.com/third-battle-of-panipat/

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Very true.

The funny thing is, some Afghans moan at us for naming missiles after Ghaznavi and Ghor (even though Pakistan, especially Lahore, prospered under these rulers and attracted educated people from across the world, and many people in their army's came from Pakistan), but they then go ahead and call a guy from Multan the father of their nation. It makes me laugh.
 
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What annoys me about them is they moan about us being federated with Punjabis, Sindhis, Baloch etc but ignore that Afghanistan is a confederation of Pakhtuns with Mongol Shia Hazara who speak Dari, Tajiks, Uzbeks and turkmen.

Their hatred for Punjabis in particular reaches downright comical levels, especially if you go on Afghan internet forums like Pashtun Forum.
 
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The fact is every country from Turkey east is polyglot of peoples. Turkey [Turks, Kurds, Circassians, Bulgars, Arabs etc], Iran [ Farsi, Arabs, Baloch, Kurds etc], Afghanistan [Pakhtuns, Hazara, Tajiks, Uzbeks etc], Pakistan [Pakhtuns, Punjabis, Baloch, Sindhi etc] and India I can't even name the list. It is a mile long. Very few countries are single ethnic states.

But I blame Pakistan. It has failed in celebrating indigenous historical figures. For instance Tipu despite having ruled India and never played any role in what is now Pakistan has pronounced impression in Pakistan but Ahmed Shah Abdali is ignored.
 
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The fact is every country from Turkey east is polyglot of peoples. Turkey [Turks, Kurds, Circassians, Bulgars, Arabs etc], Iran [ Farsi, Arabs, Baloch, Kurds etc], Afghanistan [Pakhtuns, Hazara, Tajiks, Uzbeks etc], Pakistan [Pakhtuns, Punjabis, Baloch, Sindhi etc] and India I can't even name the list. It is a mile long. Very few countries are single ethnic states.

But I blame Pakistan. It has failed in celebrating indigenous historical figures. For instance Tipu despite having ruled India and never played any role in what is now Pakistan has pronounced impression in Pakistan but Ahmed Shah Abdali is ignored.

To be fair, a missile was named after him, and I'm sure plenty of Pakhtuns know him, but yeah you are right.

I remember some guy who actually went to Abdali Masjid in Multan, he tried talking to the people in the area
about Ahmed Shah, and apparently they didn't have a clue who he was babbling on about.

I do however, still believe these Islamic leaders from across the region are all (or at least most of them are) relevant to Pakistan, they were Muslims of South Asia, as are we, and had a similar culture to our own (Tipu spoke Urdu and promoted it among his kingdom).
 
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Muslims of South Asia
This is a arbitrary construction. As much as "Asia" is. And please not Urdu is not the language of the majority of Pakistan. In fact even it's historical pedigree is weak. It is mostly contingent on British rule. Prior to that Persian was the language of this part of the world.
 
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This is a arbitrary construction. As much as "Asia" is. And please not Urdu is not the language of the majority of Pakistan. In fact even it's historical pedigree is weak. It is mostly contingent on British rule. Prior to that Persian was the language of this part of the world.

I disagree. Historically, large portions of modern day Pakistan have been considered to be a part of Hindustan, and most current Pakistanis would be classified as Hindustani if they lived a few hundred years ago (not Hindustani as in from the Republic, but Hindustani as in from the region of Hindustan, which is modern day Pakistan, Republic of Hindustan and Bangladesh).

Urdu is the lingua franca, and the national language. It's a major part of our culture.
 
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Hindustan
Factually incorrect. You are now directly supporting the very claim Indians make and reducing Pakistan's edifice to just one aspect religion thus effectively making Pakistan a "refugee camp of Indian Muslims". Hindustan was a term mostly used for the Gangetic Basin region.

What you seem to be alluding to is British India which was a British product. For referance the British annexed Indus region with "British India" only in the 1940-50 period. Had they not it would have remained outside the orbit that you call "Hindustan".

I entirely and absolutely disagree with you that Pakistan is some sort of "refuge for Indian Muslims". If it is then I would prefer Pakistan rejoins this "Hindustan" of yours. We have had enough of wars over what exactly???

I find it obnoxious how a 6% minority that has roots in India expects and foists this "Indianess" on rest of the 94% majority. That is pathetic.
 
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I disagree. Historically, large portions of modern day Pakistan have been considered to be a part of Hindustan, and most current Pakistanis would be classified as Hindustani if they lived a few hundred years ago (not Hindustani as in from the Republic, but Hindustani as in from the region of Hindustan, which is modern day Pakistan, Republic of Hindustan and Bangladesh).

Urdu is the lingua franca, and the national language. It's a major part of our culture.
I disagree. Pakistan was never part of Hindustan.

India was a bunch of princely states.


There was no united Hindustan.
 
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Interesting.
The guy is basically saying we are Indian's camping out in this trailer camp called "Pakistan" and that the 170 million Muslims in India are actually putative Pakistanis who missed out on the camping holiday. With this sort of thinking Pakistan's contorted agony with identity will go on forever until it returns to the fold of Mata India.
 
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The guy is basically saying we are Indian's camping out in this trailer camp called "Pakistan" and that the 170 million Muslims in India are actually putative Pakistanis who did not take this holiday. With this sort of thinking Pakistan's contorted agony with identity will go on forever it it returns to the fold of Mata India.

It is what it is man.

A people are what they think themselves to be.

You know the Wall came down when I was in college.

Today I'm in my 40s and North and South Korea are threatening nuclear Armageddon and "Yuge's" wife is in South Korea as North and South Koreans march together in the winter Olympics.

Cheers, Doc
 
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